dingles staying down 4ever
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19 hours ago, Sparks Rover said:
What’s Henri Lansbury doing these days?
We dont need another who plays just off a forward
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20 hours ago, J*B said:
There was a very obvious tactical decision to ensure he's the only defender available for Lamberts preferred short ball out from the keeper. Followed by Armstrong, Rothwell or Reed jumping on him the second he got the ball. Very clever I thought.
In the 2nd half I agree but I also think from the start, Armstrong should of been more central to test him from off against pace as he has never been the quickest.
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You assume wrong I did watch the game. As I say he is technically poor but at the moment we have kept two clean sheets in the league since when. Hopefully this should breath a bit more confidence in him his self belief and his performance will improve.
To say that his performane against Millwall was one of the worst ever Rovers performances was entirely wrong. It wouldn't rank in the worst 100.
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10 hours ago, arbitro said:
I think the same pretty much every game. Pace is undoubtedly his asset but he/other players don't use it enough. Bennett's ball was a peach which got him in behind for the second. One school of thought is that he is far stronger on the right which I agree with.
His pace should be utilised playing inside left or right not wide or as a No.9. His pace will unsettle central defenders when he runs the inside channels or in a sprint over the top. The problem for Mowbray is to accomodate Armstrong, Graham and Dack centrally without losing width.
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6 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:
When we were all bemoaning our lack of a rough and tumble dominant centre half a few weeks back we could have done worse than sign Collins on a one year contract. He's always been a tough competitor in the past.
At times it showed that he hadn't played for half a season. Other times Rovers made him look a world beater.
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58 minutes ago, ben_the_beast said:
Against Millwall. Literally our previous league game it was one of the single worst performances I recall from a rovers player. Just because he wasn't tested much against bottom of the league doesn't mean he's improved
You cant of been watching Rovers for so long if you think that Bell's performance against Millwall was one of the worst. I'm no way a Bell fan and think he is poor and no improvement on Williams but several of his previous performances have been worse. Two clean sheets in the last two league matches should be praised and Bell has been part of that. Granted against poor opposition but the defence has looked better.
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16 minutes ago, philipl said:
This thread is missing a certain something without Chaddy
With or without Chaddy its missing transfers!!!!!
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1 hour ago, bigbrandjohn said:
Tell that to Ipswich!!!
Theres a difference between signing one or two or trying to build a team of them!!!
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8 hours ago, ChrisPriceBaldSpot said:
Got a feeling that the team selection tomorrow might be a very interesting one. TM might see it as a game to use the squad. Here is my prediction.
Raya
Downing Lenihan Rodwell
Bennett Evans Smallwood Rothwell
Dack
Nuttall Armstrong
Leuitweiller Bell Reed Conway Travis Brereton Graham
Never want to see a back three again. Hope Tuesday convinced Mowbray that plan needs putting to bed.
Rothwell can't defend. Travis and Reed dropped. But other than that............
Oh, another thing, Downing will probably still have that illness that result in players leaving.
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I've questioned Mowbray's tactics a lot but yesterday I thought he got his tactics spot on.
Away from home, against an inform team, first thing to do is quieten the home team and fans. If you reach the mid way point in the 2nd half and you are still at 0-0 then go for it. Yesterday Rovers did both of these. Every substitution was positive.
As Ive said before Armstrong benefitted when he came on playing narrower which resulted in his goal. He is not a wide man. Nuttall showed he is a poacher but also that he has learnt from Graham. I see many on here still criticising him for technique but a lot of these people loved Jordan Rhodes whose technique was also poor. Time will tell but a squad can benefit from a poacher who is confident. Especially a team like Rovers who do not create a lot of chances. Yes his goal was lucky but how many times have we put the ball accross the middle with no one in the 6 yard box. The fact he was there was enough to create the confusion.
A lot of positives to be had. Defence looked stronger with no Mulgrew in as well. Coincidence?
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10 hours ago, OnePhilT said:
On iFollow, they said Downing was ill, although it seems a bit of a coincidence. I suppose the January windows fits in nicely with the season of bugs going around. ?
He caught it off Kasey Palmer
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59 minutes ago, bluebruce said:
Excellent news. Also enjoy the bit stating we are keen to secure him permanently if he becomes available...less keen on the bit that says he still wants to break into Southampton's first team. See how it plays out in the summer, but sounds like we have him at least until then.
Great news. His comments are pretty standard for a loan player to say
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6 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:
Round 3 is always in alphabetical order, no idea how subsequent rounds work.
Round 3 is alphabetical order but I think subsequent rounds are in the order they were drawn in the previous round, ie the winner of the first match drawn in round 3 is no.1 in round 4 draw.
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26 minutes ago, Reedy You're A Star said:
Wouldn't worry about what Nicko says. He also says that Travis is going on loan to Fleetwood..
Not agreeing with Nicko but I have a scenario for you
Possibly it has been agreed and signed before Christmas when Travis was nowhere near first team action and we can't back out of it, just like Brereton.
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26 minutes ago, Oldgregg86 said:
I thought gresko was a good left back.....until duff left
More like until he got his permanent transfer
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6 hours ago, Oldgregg86 said:
He jumps away from headers, chases nothing , lazy, effortless, his first touch is appalling, constantly offside and out of position.
Yeah but besides that he is a good player.?
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3 hours ago, Stuart said:
Not to me. We very much lack any driving force (going forward) in the middle. Reed has it, Rothwell has it, Travis has it. Rovers are at their best when they have that in them and at our worst when we play two defensive players. This is where Mowbray lets us down in my view and invites teams to take over the middle of the park. That wouldn’t be so bad but we don’t even play with natural width.
Who's the best winger out of Armstrong and Travis? Neither!
Would not disagree about Reed and Travis in the middle but not about Rothwell. Rothwell runs up too many blind alleys to play in the Smallwood or Evans role. Remember in this formation the forward drive from midfield is Dack and the wide players. The two central midfielders are there to secure the central pitch if the move breaks down. If another midfielder can get forward then thats the bonus and yes Reed or Travis with Evans could make a good pairing.
I see Rothwell fitting in as Dack's understudy.
Personally I can only see us playing to Armstrong's strengths if we were to return to playing 4-4-2 and Armstrong playing off Graham. To me playing Armstrong, Bereton, Antonsson and Samuel out wide always offers the opposition an easy outlet for the midfield to play the ball out wide as none offer defence work. This allows them to push forward easily and offers overload on our fullbacks which in turn makes them look poor in defence. Reed and Bennett do the back tracking required and offer protection. Travis can offer this as well but I would prefer him in the middle as you say. I was only saying that I can logic playing him wide to help defensively. Ideally we need two experienced wide men who can do both the attacking and defensive side of the work required for wide men and then we would not need two defensive midfielders to sit but Mowbray does not like tradittional wide men.
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1 hour ago, Stuart said:
Armstrong is very underrated on here but he can get a ball into the box and has a wicked shot on him. Hasn’t really taken off for him yet.
Disagree I'm afraid. I've not seen much of him getting the ball into the box. At times he beats his full back and cuts inside but when he is shown outside struggles to make the correct decision. This maybe because he has spent most of his footballing life down the middle. Granted he is tooo god for league one but the evidence of his time in the championship suggests that the step up is too much.
He never really does the defending part of the job which is why the idea of Travis playing out wide appeals.
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It is always sad to hear of someone dyeing of Cancer.
Probably Venus' absence has effected performances. Managers who have trusted assistant usually suffer a dip in results when said assistant is absent.
My condolences go to the Venus family
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12 minutes ago, Stuart said:
Probably do what he has done with every other player who has starred in CM and move them out wide so he can play Evans and Smallwood.
So long as it is instead of Armstrong and meaning us not losing Read then I can see logic in it. Would prefer to lose Smallwood with Travis central but I think Travis is capable of doing a job out wide as he was initially a fullback. His energy anywhere along the midfield is a bonus.
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12 hours ago, roversfan99 said:
I agree with you on your analysis on Travis v Smallwood, but West Brom's midfield isnt the best in the league, Barry and Morrison are both well, well past their best and lacking in mobility and Phillips is a winger shoehorned in there to give them mobility.
See your point but Travis played well against Sheff Utd as well. He can only play against who he is pitted against.
The analysis though does not include energy, drive and pace which Travis brought to the game. How many times have we seen Smallwood struggle to keep up with a runner from midfield or after 70 mins have him sit in front of the back 4 inviting pressure because he is knackered? On Tuesday the midfield played further up the park, even when the game entered it's later stages, which was a refreshing change.
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A really interesting thread you've started Stuart and is a key to any club surviving without a mega rich investor. I suspect the players on loan may have to play a certain % of games whilst here to avoid penalty clauses being activated which gives priority over our own players. The fact that they are not good enough is why they are on the bench rather than in the first eleven.
Secondly for every good 30 plus player I suspect you've to be careful to avoid a Danny Murphy or Wes Brown after one more payout.
Even in the days of Kenny buy young with the aim to sell for profit was the mantra. The experienced pros brought in that era where all little expenditure.
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4 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:
I think as usual Parson you're vastly over-estimating the contribution of Graham. On Saturday, once again for me he looked miles off the pace and I don't think he touched the ball during the first eighteen minutes before making a very well timed run to score. He is in a very rich vein of scoring form but contributed little else before being withdrawn and I don't think you can in any way shape or form attribute our collapse to his withdrawal.
There is something not quite right with this group of players and I'm not sure what it is but if I had to speculate on the most likely reason I'd say that the manager's negative mindset has embedded itself in the players psyche. When we take the lead the aim seems to be to see the game out rather than seeing if we can press on and put the game beyond doubt. This invariably leads to the opposition putting us under pressure and more often than not to them scoring. If that does happen we seem to completely go to pieces and have no idea how to tough the game out or even step our own game up and start giving the opposition problems again.
As others, have said, whilst Raya made a bad mistake for the first, that doesn't necessarily mean the game has to end 2-2 and a well disciplined and organised side should have been quite capable of seeing the game out.
The first place I'd be shining the microscope is at our two so called holding midfielders Evans and Smallwood. Their lack of creativity is well documented but when the pressure is on they're about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. They're the two who should be picking up the tempo when we suffer a setback, who should be reclaiming the game by the scruff of the neck and who should be ensuring the opposition do not pass. I think it's obvious to most Rovers fans that Reed, who is many times the player either of the other two are, should be in the middle instead of being wasted out wide.
It is easy to blame our holding midefielders but how can they break up play when there is always an easy ball for the opposition? How many times do we see the one or both opposition full backs be totally unmarked as the game progresses. This allows them to press forward and usually overlap leaving our fullbacks exposed. On Saturday for 75 minutes Pedersen , their left back, looked a donkey. All of a sudden he is pressing forward as an extra midfielder. This will always be the case with Armstrong playing wide or any other forward playing wide as they have no interest in tracking back. Reid, and Bennett before him, tend to drift inside especially when our midfield drops deep and Dack tends to go looking for the ball so drops deeper and deeper which leaves our forward isolated up front. Graham up front increase the chance of holding the ball up or winning a free kick.
I agree our midfielders do tend to drop deeper and I have suggested before that one reason for this they tire after 70 minutes and can't cover the ground. Several times Mowbray has made substutions either taking Smallwood or Evans off but Saturday he left both on and suffered.
Our centre backs also need to take a look at themselves though as several times they just aimlessly just either headed the ball to the opposition with little attempt to find a Rovers player. The fact that both full backs where making the same mistakes week in week out is very worrying because it shows they are not getting coached very well.
To blame just two players, like those blaming the substituition of Graham or Raya's mistake, are making scapegoats when it is a team issue.
The issues aren't new either and still we've yet to see a solution.
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On 14/12/2018 at 10:06, roversfan99 said:
To be fair I think there are no questions now regarding the team spirit across the team. So not sure that criticism is relevant any more.
Bennett shouldnt be shoehorned in solely due to his attitude and spirit. He should only play when his form and performances dictate that he is the best choice in a certain position. He has the capability to be able to do that and is an important member of the squad but hes got to merit his place. For example, to merit a place wide he needs to provide more of an attacking threat and goals/assists. That being said, so do all of our wide men.
Saying that Savage made a career out of it
Rovers v Kingston upon Hull - Saturday 26th January 2019 3pm
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I'd say there is little chance of Rodwell in midfield.