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  1. Just now, arbitro said:

    Chapman has already been with Downing for a few seasons. It's simply not feasible to have an older player on big wages simply to act as a role model for a youngster. I don't honestly see Brereton having learned anything off Graham although to be fair Mowbray hardly played him as a target man.

    To be fair, most of the time that Downing has been at Boro, Chapman has been out on loan.........................................or on the treatment table

  2. 3 hours ago, bigbrandjohn said:

    I think the boss likes bringing in senior players who can do a lob and coach the youngsters. Graham has been a good role model for Brereton. Downing would be good for Chapman and Whelan for the young midfielders. Just a thought. ?

    If thats the case why not just keep Conway and not bring in Downing?

  3. Just now, Sparks Rover said:

    Aye, Tony knows the happy clappers are years away from wanting him out even if he has one if the worst defences in the football league. 

    I can forgave this if he now concentrates on defence but he won't.

    Just because people have supported Mowbray until now, not all are happy clappers. If next season we go on runs like last season's bad run, fans will turn. He has used his last chance card with many. 

  4. 2 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

    If we are after 2 players at CB then surely all the above will be going on loan or released.  Don't think Platt will get anywhere near our first team - most likely out the door for me.   Wharton/Grayson/Magloire need a full  season playing league one (every week) to see if they can cut it.  Magloire is interesting.  He's never going to be a dominant CB but with his pace, could potentially be great alongside a big lump.

    Rankin Costello got some good reviews playing at right back.  Wonder if he will be closer to the team next year?  Would certainly offer some quality on the ball overlapping. 

    Even if we loan several or even all of these youngsters out, another youngster will only be 5th choice at best. Still  will be a drain on resources unless one of Mulgrew, Lenighan or Williams is to leave.

    Even then if someone else's youngster is better than any of ours then surely the one's deemed poorer need getting shut off. Didn't Platt/Wharton just sign a contract extension?

  5. Just now, blueboy3333 said:

    I used to think he was ok and stuck up for him a few times on here, but the quality of his writing is appalling for a journalist. 

    "Bauer, 26, is likely to be one of two central defensive options arrive this summer, with Rovers also tracking a younger option, despite looking at a more experienced free agent, having released Paul Downing and Jack Rodwell’s future remaining unclear" 

    Word salad.

    How many younger options do we need not to play? We already have Magloire, Wheaton, Platt and Grayson waiting behind Mulgrew, Lenihan, Williams and A.N. Other so why another? We need more bodies in the full back positions or are we just going to play out of position players there?

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  6. On 13/06/2019 at 09:25, philipl said:

    Agreed about the need for a good start. None of the teams which went on exceptional runs after a poor start - PNE, Hull, Bristol City, QPR and Brum made the play offs.

    PNE probaby this season's surprise package at the top end and there will be a completely unexpected struggle. 

    Stoke to go down?

    Didn't Villa have a poor start, sacked their manager and finish the season getting promoted? 

    Why would PNE be a surprise really as they just missed out on the play offs for the last two seasons?

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  7. On 14/06/2019 at 07:02, Stuart said:

    So this IS all about Mowbray staying in his job. Come on Tony, you know how the game works. Just because Venkys are simpletons does mean fans are.

    Stop talking and sign a couple of players. We at least need to replace Conway and Reed.

    Are you surprised? He has done this all the time whilst at Rovers!

    I'm just surprised more people haven't twigged

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  8. 23 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

    Unfortunately. I think we'll see that Davenport is Reed's replacement, and Chapman is Conway's replacement.  

    I'll give Mowbray credit then, he is a visionary. Davenport arrived before Reed. Signing a replacement before the man who he is replacing is inspired.

     

    Seriously Reed arrived as a premier league loanee so I think another will arrive. I agree that Chapman is Conway's replacement in the squad although listening to Mowbray lax lyrical about Stuart Downing I'm suspecting we are both wrong.

  9. 27 minutes ago, briansol said:

    People usually make too much of what a club spends on transfer fees, it's the wage budget that will determine success. It will make you keep hold of players, secure the best loans and frees. It doesn't matter if we can pay the tranfer fees if we can't get them within our wage budget. I think we learned that last year with players like McGinn and several other enquired about.

     

    Wage budget will determine success? We paid dollar to the likes of Murphy and that tosser we got from Newcastle, Best! Did that bring success?

    Ask Man. Utd who must be paying Sanchez peanuts then!

    Its the choosing of the correct players and coaching the best out of them that get success. There are plenty other examples of mercenaries for wages.

    You mention McGinn at Villa but when Bruce was manager they were below us.

  10. Just now, Mattyblue said:

    I’m on about summer season ticket sales, they can receive a boost by some attractive close season signings.

    You are correct that when the season is actually underway, it is success on the pitch that boosts crowds.

    Who are we going to sign which will bring glory hunters back? When we signed Archibald it added a few but it was only when we were on the run did crowds built.

    To get bums on seats we would need big names who non-committed supporters have heard off and there is no way that is going to happen

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  11. 2 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

    As long as we are an also ran in the second division - which we largely have been since 2012, crowds will not substantially rise.

    I wish they would, but I doubt we’ll sell more than our standard 10,000 STs - now start showing some intent in the transfer market and that may change, ‘the club is looking more stable’, ain’t going to bring in the numbers, as reassuring as that may be the likes of us on here.

    Go back to 80s, we would average around 8000 and if we were top at christmas then crowds would rise. If not crowds would stay constant or even drop off. Transfers may impact for a game or two but if we ain't winning that wont last

  12. 14 hours ago, tomphil said:

    Yep I might be wrong but I don't recall Hanley, Marshall etc coming out with stuff like that yet there are calls to bring them back like prodigal sons. Once the writing was on the wall some couldn't wait to get away, to hell with the fans and club.

    Class act on and off the pitch in his time Conway, great professional example to lower standard players.

    Maybe because they club handled Conway better than they way they forced Marshall and other players out to get a quick buck the players had no need to thank the club. Some fans had also turned and were offensive towards them so why should they thank them? It is a two way thing

    The other difference is that the players you mentioned had a potential future in the game so  fans would welcome them back, Conway is at the end of his career.

  13. We've already signed his replacement in Harry Chapman........so offering Conway a fresh contract was pointless so Conway could have had his moment of glory in the last game.

    Conway on his day was one of the best wingers in the Championship but needed a target man. For the majority of his time we didnt have that so his effectiveness wained.

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  14. 1 hour ago, Biz said:

    Jeeeez you don’t get top class keepers from your academy by selling them at 24/25. I agree he’s made mistakes but that’s part of the process. 

    For me - if we sell Raya it sends out all the wrong signals and will massively frustrate me in terms of what we are supposedly trying to build.

    Mistakes are only part of the process if you learn from them. Raya, like Mowbray, makes the same mistakes repeatedily.

    Selling him only sends the wrong signals if we replace him with an inferior player.

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  15. Just now, tomphil said:

    I still half suspect that when things have settled down and focus is elsewhere they'll announce they are keeping Jason on and the purpose of this run of games is to allow his extra year to kick in whilst having a look at him.

    I'm thinking cheap option with any available funds going elsewhere although of course it could change after Mowbrays India trip.

    I think things may have changed once Mowbray started criticising Raya. It seemed that Mowbray had finally losed confidence in him so keeper moved up the priority list

  16. Just now, philipl said:

    Remember how we all beat ourselves up for not signing Gwion Edwards from Shrewsbury after he ran us ragged playing for Ipswich in the first game of the season?

    Remember Gwion Edwards?

    Remember Ipswich?

    Remember Premier League football?

    Because if this summer's signings are not good enough to bring iPL football back to Ewood I am not really interested because we already have enough talent at the club including the youngsters to avoid relegation next season.

    Just because it hasn't worked for him at Ipswich does not mean it would work for him here. Problem at Ipswich, hurst bought too many with no chmapionship experience at once. I've not seen enough of him but I've seen enough of Armstrong out wide to say that is not the answer and we need an upgrade.

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