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They said later during the game that they were trialling it this weekend ahead of the Premier League in which youll have the option to choose it or not. Im not a fan at all I think it sounds stupid considering you can see there are no fans there but a lot seem to be a fan.

You are only considering the importance of the player to the buying team. You are not considering: -the importance of the players to the selling team. Josh King is/was a key player at Bournemouth. Cunningham was loaned out because he was unwanted. -the potential value of the player in general. Cunningham has a year left on his contract and has still not recovered from a long term knee injury. -the economical situation of the clubs. Rovers do not often spend fees on players really, and if they do it is usually for under 25s. United had millions burning a hole in their pocket after selling Lukaku. -the overall financial framework of football during a pandemic. - the levels at which the clubs are at. A Championship club can get a competent left back on a free or on loan on plenty of occasions. A top 6 Premier League club in Europe, they certainly cannot find their answer in them markets. Before Ighalo is mentioned, his loan until January is costing them 10m. If you think that Cardiff are rubbing their hands together with glee because we need a left back I just think thats a little naive considering various factors, even allowing for the fact that we would have no left backs. You say Mulgrew is a shit centre back but if you took finance out of it, just because he can no longer perform at Championship level (although Wigan may argue otherwise) various teams in Leagues 1, 2, the SPL, the MLS, Australia etc would take him if he wasnt on the wages he was. It wouldnt mean that Rovers would be in a particularly powerful position ready to charge lots of money for him because we dont want him anymore.

Just watching Bayer Leverkusen v Bayern Munich and they have crowd noises after a goal and I can honestly say that they sound ridicilious and make a further mockery of it all.

The situations are totally different. Josh King is one of Bournemouths best and most valuable players. Man United are one of the richest clubs in the world, it was a pre pandemic economic climate and it was the very last day of the transfer window. I dont think there is any comparison towards an unwanted left back who was loaned to us last season and subsequently spent the vast majority out with a serious knee injury, one to which he is still recovering, and with one year left on his contract. I suspect if we was interested, the scope for any fee would be nominal, and if it went beyond that, it would become quite clearly not an option to a club that made considerable losses even prior to a pandemic. And we would resort to the free agent and loan market that I suspect we will be limited to anyway. I understand the concept of supply and demand but in this case such a comparison is senseless for so many reasons. You could say if a team needed a centre back and was interested in Mulgrew we could charge a premium but it wouldnt work like that and as it happened, we would probably be willing to pay a portion of his wage to make it happen for free.

Thats another really good point and one I hadnt thought of regarding numerous people in the same households all being sent links.

Holtby and Evans are both back fit. Dack will be a while yet, it was a 9 to 12 month injury 5 month ago and he said last week in an interview that his aim is the start of next season.

I think you are overplaying it. A Championship club especially in this climate wouldnt be able to charge too much for a left back they considered as dispensable at the start of the season and one who has spent all of it out with a serious knee injury.

Interesting to see the approach in terms of seemingly the large proportion of supporters who have no interest in behind closed doors football. I suspect that the attitude towards them will be tough luck. I have never had an ifollow account but I have also heard before that it can be unreliable so suspect the increase in demand may cause problems too.

Is he? Where is that from? Hopefully that would seal Bell's departure.

In terms of looking at the wages, it is important to remember that these figures are for last season and therefore dont factor in the wages of Johnson, Downing, Gallagher, Adarabioyo, Holtby and Walton which will surely push us much closer to the middle. The thing to remember about parachute payments and the difficulties of competing with teams with them is that they are not intended or indeed there to fund an instant return. They are there to help a relegated club cope with hugely decreased income whilst maintaining a large proportion (factoring in contracted wage decreases) of Premier League wages. Of course when we had these instead of being prudent we spent it all. Interesting to see the directors remuneration double putting us at 6th highest. Waggott really proving his worth presumably being paid through the nose for such necessary improvements as the Waggott tax and an attitude of "We're committed, are you?!" Also quite interesting to see that if you took the illogical buy of Bem Brereton out if it who achieved nothing then our spend is near the bottom as expected. One thing I am sure of is that the overall financial situation of Championship clubs including ourselves is frightening. It quite frankly isnt sustainable and I suspect if the whole of next season or even a decent percentage of it is behind closed doors it could start to fold like a deck of cards.

Oh absolutely. I certainly wouldnt advocate his signing, him, Downing and Johnson down the left would be over a combined aged of 100. Was just pointing out that even at his age if it was between him and Bell I would still go for Brunt even now.

All very true. To be fair, even if the governing bodies were willing and had the integrity they repeatedly mention, if most of next season is BCD then even they would struggle to maintain of all its clubs. Never mind what we have now!

Do you really believe that will happen? Even if they were willing, where is this big pot of surplus money coming from in this economic climate to kindly donate millions and millions to do all of this testing?! Id love you to find when I said that. Ive always been skeptical and dismissive of your fantasy world notion that the money solely from a TV deal that itself has presumably been affect will suffice in trickling down and keeping every club financially stable. I am a big football fan like yourself and months into lockdown I am yes watching some Bundesliga football. As you would if had the channel to do so. What you seem to be unable to realise (or just solely are using to try and get a reaction) is that it doesnt mean that I am not brimming full of excitement, or aware enough to realise how serious a situation we are in, obviously overall but in this instance in terms of the going concern of many football clubs. I am aware of why BCD is the only alternative to nothing at all but I can understand that and indeed watch BCD football without trying to make out as if the world is rosy, rubbing my hands together embracing the new "TV sport" claiming that I often dont notice fans anyway and without realising how precarious things are the longer it goes on.

Definitely not a signing id go for and well past his best by all accounts. Just adding 2 and 2 with the Mowbray connection. Its not a compliment to say that hes better than Bell. Its a given.

So has Ben Brereton. Jason Lowe was England under 21 captain! Bell is shite. For me giving him a contact is throwing money down the drain. One player who I can see spending his last season playing behind closed doors football for his mate Mowbray is another ancient player with a sweet left foot, Chris Brunt who has been released by West Brom. Not who I would go for but would take over Bell.

There has to be better players even out of contract or on loan than Bell who has been aggravating us all for 2 and a half years with his ineptness and constant mistakes.

Theres no way that League 1 and 2 clubs already in a constant financial battle to survive can host either part or very realistically a full season of football, paying a squad a wage every month, having to sign extra players, without any ticket money and with the additional headache of testing costs which are huge. The idea of money trickling down is a nice one but a flawed and fanciful one to be honest. Should there be a duty of care to save the smaller clubs? Absolutely. Will there be? Almost certainly not in both deplorable and understandable ways. They couldnt save one club between them in Bury before all of this. How would it all work? Plus with themselves having cuts in TV money, no ticket income, cost of testing etc, many teams might say they cant. Take Burnley, they made a profit of only 4m, they will presumably make a big loss and their usual way out would be to sell a player. But there wont be a market for that The loan idea is hardly revolutionary either. Clubs at that level are already often reliant on loan players anyway, Bolton have had 9 players on loan already this season. Considering that you can only include 5 in a matchday squad, they would still need to sign up some new players and pay them a wage. Ultimately you can naively and ignorantly dismiss the ongoing doubt as moaning @chaddyrovers but ultimately you yourself havent offered any proper solutions either. The reason being that whilst BCD is the only option time may run out on clubs and there is no way of stopping that really. We just have to hope fans can attend as soon as possible. You are so desperate to see some football that you arent looking at the bigger picture.

Sensible considering his performances this season and with money at a premium. The one player out of contract who desperately needs to stay. Graham is an interesting one, I think ordinarily he would need to go, but with the cost of the pandemic hitting and the alternatives being Gallagher and Brereton we may have little choice but to sign him up. Bell, Smallwood, Samuel and Leutwiler should be let go for sure.

I do love this idealistic, fanciful notion that the reduced TV money received from the Premier League is going to trickle down to the lower leagues and save the day and support all 91 league clubs. On what basis are the Premier League clubs going to be obliged to help out not just one solitary club but a couple of leagues full of them? They arent going to. Plus to be fair, their own income, whether it be reduced TV deals and of course a lack of ticket income, plus the sky high cost of all this testing factored in, they might not be able to afford to as easily. The cost of potentially a whole season of testing would be sky high, even the top clubs might struggle with that. Plus the clubs especially in League 2 will have a high player turnover with many players on one year deals. So they will need to actively sign players as per normal to play the season. Next season could be the killer really. This season the one saving grace has been that its only a quarter of a season which they are rushing through as quickly as possible. I suspect that if BCD is here for a while then the TV deals may also suffer as the demand wont be the same.

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No I would be pleased but also thinking "how typical has this brilliant season happened and weve missed out on seeing it." I also wouldnt necessarily say that I disagree with the concept of BCD. I appreciate that its a necessity and my post wasnt necessarily critical at anyone.

I will be watching yeah, and I understand why it has to be this way. At the moment, the very poor alternative of BCD is better than nothing at all. I just am struggling to get excited about it and am wondering if others have similar conflicting feelings.

Fair enough. Out of interest, how much of your excitement, anticipation, desperation, tension etc do you think would fade/wane if the following was to happen, a season to cherish amidst the majority of uneventful/desperate seasons, and you was unable to go, to participate, to be a part of it, to see the whole fanbase cherish it, all in front of absolutely no one: a) The game in which a play off place was clinched b) The journey via the semi final c) The final, victory at Wembley, a ground we have not been to for 28 years d) The reward of Premier League football, quite possibly for a solitary season, going to Old Trafford, the Emirates, the new Tottenham Stadium, Anfield and course Turf Moor (all potentially behind closed doors) Of course you have said that you are excited to see football back very soon, that is fair enough and dont get me wrong, I will be watching plenty. I personally cannot see past the elephant in the room, I feel like I will miss out either way, either Rovers will fall short, very likely, or Rovers will pull it off and I and every other fan will miss out. Maybe thats slightly selfish in a way on my behalf, but to me, there wouldnt be much difference in watching BCD v Man City, Man United and especially Burnley or Barnsley, Millwall and Luton.

It is an interesting topic regarding missing football. I watch plenty of football culminating in going to Rovers games so I expected it to leave a huge and immediate hole in my life and I dont think ive missed it nearly as much as I expected. Maybe its the timing. I never felt having never been in the top 6 all season that we had a realistic chance of finishing the season there, overcoming the 4 teams currently ahead of us in the race for 6th. Did anyone? There are not many games left, indeed now the season would have been finished almost a month ago. As a neutral, the top 2 divisions in England were the ones I watch the most, and the title in the Premier League and the top 2 in the Championship were done and dusted really. So was there much more football to be genuinely excited about between the start lockdown and now? Not really. Behind closed doors football is nothing to look forward to, I dont get how anyone can claim otherwise. I just see it as going through the motions until football returns properly. I am sure I will tune in but is anyone excited about June 20th? Really?

There is more chance of Brereton scoring the winner in the play off final statistically I would suggest.