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He may have done. (Although its a different ask playing right of a back 3). But we wanted a right back to compete and signed Alebiosu. We then went ahead with Miller as soon as a fee for Brittain was agreed. Therefore its a safe assumption that he was signed to take his place in the squad at right back. Either way, we are massively short of reliable defenders.

I am not having that he was signed predominantly to be a centre back. See my above post. But either way, we are massively short of defenders that can stay fit, due to the clubs negligence.

But the original discussion surrounded the fact that Carter has already again seemingly picked up an injury. We have no natural centre backs who are right footed who can play matches consecutively. Its negligence. We wanted a right back in the summer to compete and signed Alebiosu. We then signed Miller within 24 hours of Brittain leaving. That gave us 2 right backs which is fine. Now they are trying to spin it that we always intended to sign him as a centre back. Even if it turns out that he plays predominantly at centre back. We are short both there and at right back. Might be able to make do now, early in the season with 1 game a week, we wont as the games mount up.

He wasnt a centre back here though. But either way, even if he does turn (luck rather than judgement as you say) into a Championship capable centre back. We are still short not only there but also then at right back.

Im not on about whether Miller will be a good signing. Im talking about the negligence shown in letting Hyam go and leaving us with only one natural right footed centre back, and one whose body simply cannot be relied on at Championship level. One game and its already broken down. It will cost us being so short as the season goes on.

Whether he covers well or not. Dont be fooled, he was signed as a right back, and its not 6 games in that it will cause us these issues, its as the games go on.

The fact that we have to manage their minutes due to their injury records only makes it more ridiculous that we let Hyam go and didnt replace him. That position will cause us huge issues as the season goes on. And they wont even admit that we are short.

😂 so it is about the objective matter of results, but only upon the removal of lost cup games and having added on additional points that we subjectively "deserved" but didnt get due to poor play. Ok then. You could surely say that all losses were suffered due to poor play. Yet its not enough evidence even when youve twisted the results in your favour to just say that you are all in on the manager.

You said it was all about results correctly so its irrelevant surely how many points you think we "deserve" to have. Results show 2 wins and 4 losses this season. 4 wins, 2 draws, 5 losses last season. So overall, 6 wins in 17. 9 losses. Simple as that. You avoided my question and seem reluctant to say whether you are all in on Ismael and if you are fully confident in him.

Is that something you have heard? Surely Carter hasnt already picked up a knock. Our inability to replace/retain Hyam will cost us.

Obviously its all about results. And his overall record so far isnt particularly good here. I would interpret being all in as being fully confident in the ability of the manager without any big doubts. I was all in on Eustace, but only once he had proven his ability shown by results. Hopefully Ismael will oversee results that lead to a similar level of confidence. But he hasnt and I am not sure if he will. Would it be safe to assume that telling me that its about results before cherry picking random positive statistics, picking out individual decisions and telling me what you think about his media presence, that you are very much "all in" on Ismael?

JDT certainly had flaws but he clearly wasnt "out of his depth."

How do you think that Markanday would fare in La Liga?

Coyle won 5 of his first 18 league games. (And won in the cup) I often see people point to the likes of Szmodics and Brereton when people question anyone to suggest that they dont rate a player early doors. But equally, there are far more examples of players who struggle early doors who go on not to make the grade. I think personally to say outright that Ismael is shit and deserves to be sacked, or similar, would be over the top. But equally I dont see much evidence to be "all in" on him. Not that it matters much as hes here for the duration either way.

I see that Elliott Jackson is today pushing a narrative that the fans should be "all in" on Ismael. Where do people stand on him at the moment? Amidst the shit storm of what happened off the pitch in the summer, the only thing that really seems to be discussed (understandably) is whether he is truly genuinely happy, whether he can be happy or whether hes towing the party line sat on his long contract. He has obviously had some big difficulties as do all of our managers under these twats. But how convinced are people that he is the best man to take us forward? I certainly am not "all in" on him personally, obviously I back him and desperately hope he does well as he is the current manager but I would say I am 30-40% convinced that hes any good. There have been glimmers of promise and a lot of mitigating factors but a lot to do to fully convince me personally. Hopefully he can really change my mind by putting a run of results together starting from last Saturday.

Not wrong though.

That option being to spurn any chance of building an attack by repeatedly standing offside.

Surely we arent potentially criticising a player for being available every week?

But we have lost a hell of a lot in defence. And that defence did really well last season and earnt lots of clean sheets. Hyam, Batth and Brittain were all excellent last season. Of course there is something to the injury concerns between Carter and Wharton. Carter has repeatedly picked up muscular injuries over the last 2 seasons and picked up another 30 minutes into pre season. Wharton missed 16 months with a terrible knee injury. But the issue is compounded with only having one other senior centre back. If theres any area of the team that is most likely to be downgraded, its the back 4.

I would certainly say weaker. It wasnt the plan to lose so many key players and its easy to underestimate how good they were at this level. Signs on the new recruits are mixed as you would expect.

Yeah, I also cant understand the fixation about 4 (well, 6) key players all leaving the club because we cant sort first team contracts out. Only a minor issue.

Yeah if they have big doubts that the manager is right for where they are now, theres not much point allowing loyalty and perceptions about what they "deserve" to overrule that for a randomly chosen period of time. Its a poor example and there will be more obvious ones, but I remember the outrage when Southampton sacked Nigel Adkins and appointed Pochettino. Adkins had done a good job and didnt "deserve" to be sacked, but the choice was still a good one.

Yep, its just a series of individual circumstances and there is no pattern to see here and nothing that the club has done wrong.

It was a penalty against Birmingham. The West Brom ones perhaps but we were really poor that day. Its more the Birmingham one that people are claiming as unfortunate and undeserved whereby it was our own naivety and poor decision making that led to both goals. Especially the 2nd.

Again, you go off on tangents regarding individual players but the fact remains. And obviously regarding Gestede, how he speaks publically. And I am clearly not on my own in thinking that.