forgive me jim

but I think that souey turned rangers totally around and left them at the top of the tree, I know cause I lived opposite the ground for a while

okay we need 5 wins to achieve safety ?

lets see

must win games as follows :

leeds

leicester

southampton

portsmouth

birmingham

away games where we may get something#

everton

spurs

boro

villa

spurs

charlton

games where we can expect nil points

manure

liverpool

arsenal

chelsea

newcastle

fulham

40 points seems a heck of a long way off to me and I am one who has not until now considered the thought of relegation.

waggy

of course sturrock isnt good for BRFC, we are established firmly in the premiership !, plymouth argyle are a lowly club who just happen to have some decent results behind them in whats a poor division.

For Rovers to be taken forward we would need a manager with tactical nouse, a willingness to be his own man, a good man manager, someone who can get the very best out of overpaid players and someone who could get a result when one is needed.

if souness is not that man then I would have to agree with the Mark Hughes scenario. Although lacking in management experience he has shown what he can do by the way he has rejuvenated a very poor welsh set up.

ste b

you could and should have replaced that lastpost with

"you talk a crocl of crud rover6"

of course the mighty paul sturrock, that epitomy of class,skill and tactical nouse is the man to take Rovers forward !

HONEST

hold on a mo

has souey won anything ?

yes he bloody has, no foreign johnny is going to improve BRFC on the playing side as manager, maybe the introduction of an assitant coach will benefit the club.

quite clearly saunders is not the suitable coach at the moment

worst performance in 30yrs as a ST holder ?

well in my time I have seen some serious crud whilst watching in my 30 plus years,

huddersfield,gillingham,blackpool,swindon,bradford,city,leeds,boro, the list is bloody endless if we want it to be an ideal picture of imperfection.

If yesterdays result has turned you against the team then you are neither a fan or supporter, you are a complete nurd who has suffered the biggest of knee jerk reactions since young jim

get over it, its bad and on that sense can only get better.

we have to be grateful that we have lowly leeds,pompy,leicester and wolves below us at the moment. 3 of them have to come to ewood and if these games are won then safety is achieved.

go down ?

if we do then thats the end of the current BRRFC as we know it.

we would be another sheffield wednesday, down down and down never to return.

comon lads just who is there about to replace him or improve our current crisis ?

lets have some names please instead of gesticulating crud

get over it rover6

I am not exactly happy about it but in the current crisi it may turn out to be a blessing in disguise.

It was a pity you weren't on here just after the newcastle result !

and it didnt take you long to get your bitchy claws out again did it ?

his cash injedtion is soley to ward of the hovering creditors. the 60 million will not settle their debts in full it will merely half them and at the same time the club will have time on their side to operate as a business in the hope that they can generate some income themselves.

I understand that if the cash injection is acceptable to the administrative side of the club and the stock exchange then the creditors owed some money after this will put a 12 month hold on wanting their money back. HOWEVER the lease companies will not be included in this and leeds are expected to fulfill their payment obligations aside.

rumours around leeds suggest that the lease debts have not really been published and stand alone at around 23 million.

It sems to me that mr Sheik has his work seriously cut out for 2 or 3 years to get the club solvent enough to trade

its not unuaual to see a frenchman blaming others its been a repetitive story throughout history.

i mean they blamed russia for the germans invading france

they blamed the italians for their own cowardice displays in ww1 and ww2

they blamed the English and USA for Iraq's invasion of kuwait

they blamed the english farmers when their own blockaded the ports of france

they blamed the world when iraq was invaded earlier on this year but remained solidly on the side of the coalistion when it transpired they may lose millions in unpaid deals on arms transactions

they blamed everyone but themselves for the incompetent way the tried to deal with asylum seekers using the channel tunnel/port of calais as a go between

they blamed the british government when they provided argentina with superentarrd fighter planes and exocets just prior to us kicking their arses and even more so when the above mentioned sales revealed it was the french rockets that were responsible for sinking 4 of our warships

you see the typical frenchman is incapable of entertaining the fthe fact that they have to face up to any responsibility or face criticisms for THEIR actions.

With leaders like de gaulle and chirac they have suitable acts to follow however france is littered with such arseholes who have all bore the same traits as their predecessors    

there is an interesting article coming out about lufc and the money they owe, but even more interesting is the amount of money they owe against players.

copyrights rule out a posting but it is something like this.

viduka - when purchased lufc borrowed/leased 6 million against him and in lieu of interest payments agreed to a repayment value of 9 million - this was taken at the time when he was being mooted for a 14 million pound move to overseas clubs. His current value is around 4 million but lufc still have to repay the agreed 9 million back to the lease company.

matteo - purchased with a lease value loan of 7 million, current value 3 million.

duberry - purchased with a lease value of 6 million - current value 1.5 million.

Kewell was a relatively cheap signing/investment at around 250k, however lufc "borrowed" against his value two years ago - 14 million - on the completion of his move to lfc the finacne co got 500k leaving a 13.5 mill deficit. Further to this lufc still pay kewell 25k a week and still owe 3.4mill in bonus/contract payments to him.

Fowler. Again purchased via  a lease loan and sold for peanuts. Apparently leeds still pay him 45k a week for the next 22 months, then they have to pay him 4.5mil in contract and bonus payments.

this totals around 34 million of the debt leeds find themselves in.

they have no other assets and have recently returned 29 club cars to a local sponsor as they can longer meet insurance/fuel bills for players. They have also sold 27 properties including 2 training grounds as well as three sites purchased from the old plc.

total debt expected to be released 15th December is £101 million.

if they get relegated then the club expect to lose 29 million in prizemoney/sponsorship and general turnover.

so they are well and truly knackered in terms of the financial plight they find themselves in.

One shining light is that some oil shiek has offered to make a purchase of the plc for around 50 million however that is nothing in comparison to abramovitches outlay at chelski

as mentioned on a previous post

nick barmby is now available on a free transfer - must be worth a try for the left hand side.

lufc are in a serious rut having to turn down a 4 million gift from ARM holdings as creditors where lining up to grab it ! hahahaha

it wouldnt take a ot to displace that bolton winker !!

oh by the way its the first time I heard it and thought to myself

"eh that was a reet grand joke tee hee tee hee tee hee"    

pure entertainment

just who the ferk is Peter Kay ? when there is a classic comedian amongst us    

clubs in terminal decline include

sheff wed

oldham

leeds

peterboro

notts co

exeter city

torquay

northampton t

wycombe wanderers

this list does NOT include BRFC

well jim just who has carried the can for you then mate ?

its an obvious thing to say when TP speaks to the press aint it ?

how about giving the manager some support, the team some backing and then how about having a change of drivel spouting from you overwroked keyboard !

rover6

sturrock is a scotsman who was an average midfielder in an average scottish league.

he moved onto management having had to finsih his football career short through injury. he moved into the then non legue status of scottish football managing such thoroughbreds as clachnacuddin and alloa before an ill fated stint at dundee his football nemesis. he was then appointed part time basis only as plymouths manager and enjoyed a reasonable good run resulting in him getting the job full time and is now at the helm on a 3yr deal.

that good enough for you ?

he simply could not cut it in div 1 never mind the premiership, maybe if he proves a point 5 or 6 years down the line then come back with his name until that day let him be and never mention his god damned name name again on this thread he is not premiership material.

well its a good job you had the dictionary available then aint it ?

or did you manage to get it from the medical journal on t@internet

pains me to say it but TUGAYis way off the mark on his currnt form, it is his inabilities that are flooding our midfield and giving us so many problems.

He needs dropping now.

rover 6 you are a clone of jim and IMo that makes you someone who I just cannot find time to bide.

You obviously have NO ideas regarding BRFC.

You clearly cannot see through those tainted grey specs that you blatantly and so obviously wear.

Your views are based on media and radio commentary as YOU were NOT at Southampton today.

Your unrespected spouts about Souness are just typical of someone who cannot understand that football is a sport where it has a lot of ups and downs. Yes sometimes were really bad and other we are really good. Its just right at this moment we hare having  a bad time of it. This reason alone did NOT stop 1900 Rovers fans flocking to Southampton in order to SUPPORT our team. Even as we lost we still APPLAUDED the effort of our team.

THAT IS WHAT BEING A SUPPORTER IS ALL ABOUT - TAKING THE BAD TIMES AS WELL AS THE GOOD TIMES.

You really rile me off with your stupid rants and suggestions that one Paul Sturrock is the saviour of our club, He ISN'T going to ever get the job at Ewood, neither is Gary Megson or Iain Dowie. So back your truck up and get out there and start supporting the team that you ALLEGEDLY follow.

can anyone see the light in the current climate ?

very soon we are going to click and someone is going to get a pasting on the pitch, we are drawing in on a visit to manure and god help us if we cant manage to halt the rot before then !

I remain hopeful, christ even the sun has backed us for a 1-0 win on Saturday