3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

No manager would have a job for life. 

I dont have to stipulate anything Mercer. When I think it's time for Mowbray to go I will post that. Until then he remains in charge for me and many other Rovers fans of similar opinion. 

Back to the pointless insults again Mercer with that sort of senseless and absurd comment. Abit like appointing a dingle like Paul Cook as Rovers manager. 

Chaddy, all I have done is to ask you under what circumstances you would sack Mowbray.

I think this is a perfectly reasonable question and one you have not answered.

One can therefore only draw the conclusion that you are an avid admirer of Mowbray in a way that borders on boyhood / hero worship.  That is your right and entitlement should you feel that way.

I have made the observation that, IMO, as there do not seem to be any circumstances under which you would sack Mowbray, it seems, at least to me, to be nonsensical and absurd.

As for Paul Cook, I think he has done very well wherever he has been and the run Wigan put together in the final part of the season was fantastic and without that points deduction, they would have finished just two places below Rovers in 13th.  I would take Paul Cook over Mowbray every second of the day as, IMO, he has been successful, unlike Mowbray, at every club he has managed.

I also think it's time to drop all this 'dingle sh1t'.  I have good friends who are Burnley supporters and as I have asked you before, if you were lying in hospital needing emergency treatment to save your life, would you refuse the administration of that treatment as the consultant was a dingle!  

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Mercer, you have asked very similar every season You did the same with when Bowyer was here and doing the exactly same with Mowbray. Nothing changing with you. I'm backing Mowbray end off. You want that Dingle Cook in charge of Blackburn Rovers. Tell me everything I need to know. 

I know exactly how a football club should be run thanks Mercer. 

Scraped to 2nd in league 1? 🤣

Credibility? It's a fan football forum. That's it. Your predictions are totally laughable most of the time. 

Anyway enjoy the rest the Christmas Mercer. 

 

So if you were CEO at Ewood, Mowbray would have a job for life irrespective of league results, league position and even what league we were in- could even be combination football at Pleasington with just you and half a dozen others watching! - ???

To have any credibility Chaddy, you have to stipulate under what circumstances you would sack Mowbray.

IMO, you are saying there are no circumstances that would make you inclined to sack Mowbray.  Do you have a photograph of Mowbray on your living room wall as he seems to be something akin to a 'boyhood hero' to you?

IMO, nonsensical and totally absurd.

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

You asked the same question every season Mercer cos you wanted Mowbray gone for the past 3 seasons. 

I asked you a specific question:

"Under what specific circumstances would you sack Mowbray in the summer eg he doesn't get us promoted, he doesn't finish top six, he doesn't improve on last season's position?"

You have not answered Chaddy.

I honestly think you are both hopelessly in love with Mowbray and you are pretty clueless about how a football club should be run and how accountable the manager should be.

My position is quite clear and I've said so on many occasions.  I would not have appointed Mowbray in the first place.  He failed to keep us up as was his target when appointed to the job (his words in Blues in Feb 2019).  He got us promoted at the first time but with the biggest resources in League One by a country mile - we scraped in 2nd behind mighty Wigan and, IMO, played football that was dire, dire and more dire.  In his third season back in the Championship, we are worse off at this stage of the season than in seasons one or two as @J*Bdemonstrated:

After 21 games...

18/19 - 30 points, 6 off the play offs.

19/20 - 31 points, 3 off the play offs.

20/21 - 29 points, 7 off the play offs.

At best we are stagnating and some of our football is, IMO, just feckin awful and some on here have the temerity to knock Big Sam who knocks spots off Mowbray in every conceivable way as a football manager.

Difference between you and me Chaddy is that I try to rationalise my arguments whereas you don't and therefore have little credibility. 

9 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

My position is clear. I wont be changing it. 

Mowbray still has plenty of support of different social media out there. 

A question Chaddy.

Under what specific circumstances would you sack Mowbray in the summer eg he doesn't get us promoted, he doesn't finish top six, he doesn't improve on last season's position?

44 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

He got to professional..

I'm happy with Mowbray to carry on for this season and review in summer. 

FFS Chaddy, this is the problem!

It's like we go round and round in circles.

It will then be 'we showed good form in the final few games, let's give him the window' which then becomes 'let's give him a dozen games to see how much difference his new signings make' and then it becomes 'let's see where we are at Christmas' and then 'let's give him the January window and review at the end of the season'.

IMO, it's mind numbing bury your head in the sand nonsense.

If my head wasn't so feckin delicate I'd be banging it on my desk!

Think something is fundamentally wrong.

We are now struggling even against the type of teams we were hammering earlier in the season.

Last three games against Owls, Stoke and Rotherham have given us 1, win, 1 draw and 1 loss with just three goals scored.  Nine points out of nine had to be the target with 7 the minimum acceptable return.

As @RevidgeBluesaid above we have the players to produce the magic (as Rothwell's goal showed today).

IMO, in the main, our football has been dire recently - horrible to watch.

Mowbray has no excuses.  Yes, we have injuries but so do all other teams.  Our squad is big and even with a number of injuries there should be enough there to see us with a bigger points return and higher up the table.

It all comes down to the manager who needs to set up the team to get the best out of the players available to him.  IMO, on this score, Mowbray fails abysmally.

Mowbray is right - we are on a journey.  Sadly, I think he must have read 'Women in Love' by DH Lawrence “That’s the place to get to—nowhere. One wants to wander away from the world’s somewheres, into our own nowhere.”

48 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

I said on here in midweek that today would be 1-1 and I backed my hunch with a chunky bet

And I've often waited for your predictions and done the opposite, and done well  too

I'm up £8,787 so far this season.

Happy New Year!

 

Good stuff Jim!

I'll send my bank details so you can deposit my 10% commission of £878.70 into my bank!

Hope the New Year is even more profitable for you. 

1 minute ago, jim mk2 said:

How much you lose betting on Rovers ? 

Lost today Jim, got to take the rough with the smooth.

Up until a couple a weeks ago, Rovers were making me plenty.

This season, my net position with Rovers is +£478 - not to be sneezed at.

Merry Christmas!

6 minutes ago, superniko said:

Can tell it’s the wine if you’re backing 2-1 at the same price as Rovers to win. 

Good point!

TBH, a tad delicate - didn't find the bedroom until 3.00 am today!

1 minute ago, Stuart said:

You laying?

Sh@gging not on today's agenda!!!

You can still get 6/1 on Rovers' win.  Bang on if you can.

Win coming here.

Sadly, will disguise, IMO, a lot of the dire stuff Mowbray's team serves up.

Think he's a lucky bugger who just gets a result when he needs it from a self preservation point. 

Can we send Douglas back on 1 Jan ?

No good Mowbray belly aching and asking for more funds for defenders - shouldn't have signed Downing.

Just now, Mercer said:

No pre match bets today.

Just gone £50 Rovers win at 10/1 and £10 2-1 at 10/1.

Definitely. betting with the heart fuelled by red wine!

Mowbray's a luck bugger.

Wow - instant return, almost!

COYB

No pre match bets today.

Just gone £50 Rovers win at 10/1 and £10 2-1 at 10/1.

Definitely. betting with the heart fuelled by red wine!

Mowbray's a luck bugger.

6 minutes ago, WIR Second Coming said:

Dacky! Big Bad Bereo, Downing

Huge risk introducing Dack - very, very little game time. 

Hope he doesn't break down.

Happy Christmas - wishing everyone a healthy festive season.

1 hour ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

Really fucking winds me up when he blames the players. It's cowardly. He's signed them, how does he sit there and believe he doesn't have to take account for that? Anyone that thinks he is "a nice guy" needs to read that as he's clearly nothing of the sort. 

IMO, you are spot on - I've said this on a number of occasions.

I think it's all about self preservation with Mowbray and looking after number one.

We need rid and bloody fast.

1 minute ago, darrenrover said:

I love a decent bottle of red Mercer, having lived in between Cahors and Bordeaux for 10 years, it's hardly surprising! Unfortunately it doesn't like me, gives me horrendous gout, so I haven't touched a drop for over 5 years and haven't had any gout since either

I'm partial to Provence rosé, Sancerre, Chablis or any other Borgougne whites which tend to be a touch less expensive.

By the way, could you predict Huddersfield Town to win by a cricket score on 29 December? 😉🤣🤣

Eat lots of cherries and drink lots of water and should mitigate your gout!

Love Sancerre and Chablis and there will be a few bottles on the table to go with our Christmas Day turkey!

9 minutes ago, darrenrover said:

I agree with you but I don't think I'd particularly like to watch a Warnock or O'Neill team twice a week. Stoke were particularly woeful.

If 4 years ago, Mowbray had started the "slow build" starting with 2 strong, experienced centre halves and 2 full backs, who both have the ability to defend first and foremost, added to our current midfield and forward line, we'd be pissing this league. 

Can you imagine a back 4 of Hird, Fazackerley, Keeley, Bailey instead of the current incumbents?

I feel that the failure to address something that has been glaringly apparent to even our least knowledgable of fans, has been Mowbray's (and every other manager in Venkys 10 year tenure) failing. I just don't get it.

Think we'd almost double our goal tally with Hird and Bailey as our full backs.  Who can forget their marauding forays - their directness and ability to run at pace with the ball was superb (like Rothwell on speed!).

Faz and 'Killer' couldn't half defend and underrated as footballers.

Those were happy days!

3 minutes ago, Norbert Rassragr said:

As someone who likes a red wine, but is a cheap date is that a fancy 'more than £7' wine? I'm the sort who'd rather go on a mission with your Aldi Toro Loco (which is actually pretty good) and save the expensive stuff for special occasions like Rovers or Coventry RFU getting into the top division.

Oh, and if you like gin, Roku is really good. All this is away from the point that Mowbray should be thanked but binned as he lacks that extra 15% to get us promoted, but consumer information is important.

Yep, Aldi wines are pretty good vfm and it's noticeable they are pushing out the boundaries in terms of their range on wines / spirits and beginning to venture into some of the more 'premium' (relative for Aldi) lines.

Love the Roku and rounded off perfectly with a ginger garnish!

Beverages much more interesting than Mowbray's Rovers at the moment!

1 minute ago, Sparks Rover said:

He isn't a great defensive manager, and he's a dingle.  My choice is Pearson and quick.  With a decent transfer window it wouldnt be too late for this seasons play offs.

Paul Cook was a tongue in cheek suggestion for the all things Burnley loving @chaddyrovers!  Having said that, I think he's streets ahead of Mowbray!

I think Pearson would be like a breath of fresh air.

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well if that's any sort of potential shortlist cos of the HSH agency connection and not many you would want off that list surely

Paul Cook is available and would get us up! 

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Well it's over 13 months actually. 

Hows your Bottle of red going? 

Chaddy, you are losing your credibility in arguing about days as opposed to years.

Just finishing off a Barolo then off to bed.

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

O'Neil joined Stoke on 8th November 2019 so how is that under a year then? 

FFS, it's 13 months - don't split hairs.  What difference does a month make.  Mowbray is just days short of being here for 4 YEARS.