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[Archived] Jack Straw For Pm?

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There you go Brian, just check your voting form, and try to find the daftest candidate. You'll then feel good for voting, and for sticking two fingers up at the established parties. I doubt I'll be voting Lib dem as I have in the two elections I was able to vote-they ar even more inneffective and ignored than ever. They peaked when they had 10 pints Kennedy in charge. And that was more of a noticable mound than a Andean giant.

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I've voted Lib Dem before. The last election I had the choice (in a safe labour seat) of voting Lab, Con, Lib or Independent. I had absolutely no idea what the Independent stood for, nothing in 'papers from him, no leaflets, no door-stepping.

A really poor choice, I think.

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I've voted Lib Dem before. The last election I had the choice (in a safe labour seat) of voting Lab, Con, Lib or Independent. I had absolutely no idea what the Independent stood for, nothing in 'papers from him, no leaflets, no door-stepping.

A really poor choice, I think.

I'd agree with that. PR is important so people can select something closer to their views.

Theno - I'm not a politican, nor connected to politics in any way, and I hate those who abuse their position. But equally I think it needs recognition that the vast majority perform a decent enough job, and all are in a virtually impossible position of being consistently criticised from all corners by people (the press, the public) who are unwilling to put forward alternatives and back them. They can't succeed.

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If the majority of people decided they wanted something to happen tomorrow it would happen. Thing is no one really has a concrete idea about what they want in a realistic sense, and the status quo is currently pretty good.

Does the first sentence mean that the troops will be coming out of Iraq soon ? Or that immigration will be massively decreased ? Or that the justice system will be strengthened and begin to actually deter criminals ? Or that the EU constitution (sorry , treaty ) won't be imposed on us ? ( I could go on a bit here ......)

I'm afraid you're being conned , Joey . The big decisions are being made regardless of public opinion by an elite that dominates the two main parties .

The electoral system backs up that elite to the hilt - and I reckon the majority of people would like that system changed . Will it happen ? Not a chance ! The first past the post system belongs in the third world and we can't do a damn thing to change it .

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I'm not the one who looks up transexual escort agencies on the internet Gordon :D. But you don't fancy them, you find them confusing I'm sure. ;)

Anyway, back on topic, some Labour MP called Prentice has called for Gordon to resign, and a column written by David Milliband is being interpreted as a veiled pledge to bid for leadership if things don't change. Things seem to be moving, slowly but surely. We will not be able to have a say of course, as Labour will never call an election after a leadership contest. What a lovely democracy we live in.

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It rather looks like David Milliband is positioning for the putsch.

Jack has blown it- had he gone for it at the week-end, he might have pulled enough with him to have got the gig.

As it is Brown is dead meat and I might have to face the horribly early prospect of being able to say I knew the PM's father rather well if young Milliband persuades the turkeys to vote for knives rather than electricity in a communal hot bath at the next election.

Had William Hague made it I'd have had plenty of stories from our time at Business School together especially for his anti-Euro moments.

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Had William Hague made it I'd have had plenty of stories from our time at Business School together especially for his anti-Euro moments.

Considering half the cabinet were drug taking marxists in their uni days a bit of "anti Euro moments" is small beer (to use an expression that the bloke might not like....)

Hague is a decent chap I reckon - excellent sense of humour .

By the way , am I the only one who finds it a little nauseating that the effeminate nonentity of a Foreign Secretary is positioning to be PM himself on the day that fuel prices have risen again by a massive amount .

It all reminds me of Goebbels and Himmler and Bormann fighting for power in the bunker while the Russian tanks are at the door .......

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I think jack would make a good PM and iam sure he take Labour out the mess their in. I also think Hazel Blears would do a good job.

I think even Clark Kent would struggle with that task.

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