I'm reminded of porridge the movie. Fletcher: Don't look at me. I've grown disenchanted with the game. Twenty years of supporting Orient does that for a man It's much the same being a rovers fan. We're nailed on too go down next year, unless something big happens. This valerian geezer (I've got sleeping pills made of valerian by the way, is this a coincidence?) is the bottom of the barrel. I'm going to assume he's going to be here next season and won't get sacked until December. By which stage we'll be firmly in the drop zone. We've been cruising for a bruising for so long, flogging off the silver and replacing it with tat. Only so long you can do that before the cracks start widening. And if we go down, that's it. We wouldn't get back up without a change of ownership. And still they won't sell. What a shower of arseholes there people are. I hope their next shit is a pineapple

Think only thing that would have any effect would be to bombard companies that service them here with protest letters. If they stop doing work for them then they make life difficult and they're lazy fuckers. Anything else they really couldn't give a fuck about. Either that or get a game postponed. Disruption is the order of the day. A newspaper ad is tomorrowsy chip paper, and even if it were noticed by some readers, it would soon be forgotten

Tits out for the lads The mother of all deaths spirals beckons. This manager is NFG, and he may already have lost the dressing room

I've just never felt so bloody despondent about the whole thing. If rovers was the point of Guinness day in front of me, venkys is like a dash of Pimm's some idiot has poured in. You know they're there but you can't see them, you try to pretend your pint doesn't have pimms in, because it still looks the same but Jesus Christ it leaves a tremendously bad taste in the mouth. Nobody asked you if you wanted Pimm's in your pint, and the idiot behind the bar tried to tell you it's a good thing. You desperately want to get the bloody stuff out but it seems impossible and you start wondering if the best thing to do is or the fucker down the drain and go to IKEA instead

He's highly rated amongst his piers

If he's any cop he'll be gone by the end of next season. If he's crap he'll either be gone by the end of the season or we'll be stuck with him for five years.

Living under the venky jackboot is indeed like a snail having to crawl along a razor blade

Nah, it was jonnolad

Does this help? https://www.sotwe.com/JackGreensnote

I know what you're getting at, and you may be correct, but to me, it's Occam's razor time and the simplest explanation is just that they're hopeless, and the decision making is paralyzed by the absent landlords. I don't think we sack managers full stop, who's the last one who has his contract terminated, coyle? What's that, eight years ago? They don't like doing anything other than picking their wages up, that's my impression. I could be wrong, it's been known to happen

Sounds like if it's Ismael , it would be a minor miracle if he lasts until the end of the season. I would call it a managed decline, but I don't think the executive at the club have the wherewithal too manage anything other than picking their wages up

We still love you Kenny. Thank you for remembering us. https://www.facebook.com/1Rovers/videos/1266460294440205/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v

In my view it was constructive dismissal. Good luck to whoever is next. Unless they are so desperate because no-one else will hire them or they've lost all self-respect that they're happy to abandon all ambition and just turn up and take the money, then I give them about a year before they walk, too.

Nailed it James. People giving it to Eustace or even part-blaming mowbray for the 💩 we're in, it's the wrong target entirely. Fair enough Tony gave up the last few years, he just phoned it in and was very cynical. I think though that working in that job is it's own particular type of moral injury. It's impossible to get anywhere with venkys in charge, and I think in the end you just psychologically surrender to it, like Tony did. Or you safeguard your professional pride and piss off at the first half decent opportunity, like the last two have done. Giving the owners a few pass, as some fans do on social media, but laying into the managers is just crazy. It makes me think of people in America blaming immigrants for putting them out of a job and then voting for trump

I wish John nothing but the best. No animosity from me. He's performed miracles to get us where we are. He also seems to be a decent person. I can't blame him at all for going. I think everyone on football must know what an absolute shell we now are.