All I can see on Wyke is that he's in talks with Celtic. Not seen much of him to be honest but I know he's been handy enough in the lower leagues. My Carlisle supporting mates rated him. Didn't realise he had done so well last season for Sunderland.

9 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

does anyone know which teams will be classed as cat a and cat a+ on the issue of match day prices??bloody expensive when you consider what you have to endure from a mowbray side and a strange way to try and get more people through the turnstiles,if swag thinks keeping  season ticket prices the same but raising match day prices is the answer then he`s a ****** idiot who`s completely misjudged his market,we`ll be down to 8,000/9,000 crowds this season,even less at times when you consider weather and opposition

I've wondered this as well. It's not like the Premier League years where you'd happily pay a premium to see the likes of United and Liverpool.

22 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I was talking about the season when we were allow inside the stadium to watch games live. 

I wouldn't re-sign Chapman for the coming season

I specifically made comment about his u23's performances last season, to which you tried to question how I could have seen them during Covid in a particularly snarky way. His performances for the u23's two seasons ago may well have been poor, but that's old form and not what was being discussed.

So you either:

A) Raised the point about Chapman's u23's performances two years ago as a slight on me, as there was apparently no possible way I could've seen his u23's games last season if I wasn't in the stadium watching it live.

B) Started talking about his u23's performances two seasons ago to fit your agenda that he's been poor and unmotivated (generally but specifically within u23's games as well). When in reality his u23's performances last season were good (from the three games I watched anyway), but he wasn't applying himself enough in training, along with various other reasons no doubt.

Neither reflect very well on you, but we'll leave it there. He's signed now, so that's that. Hopefully he gets a couple of games, as it sounds like he's got a point to prove. 

21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Kyle, I watched live a number of those games and the season before games live inside a stadium where Chapman's performances and attitude wasn't good enough. He was sucking at all. 

Chapman even admitted to having attitude problems here. Harry Chapman opens up on life at Blackburn Rovers, Tony Mowbray talks and the future - LancsLive

You really do get passive aggressive when someone's opinion doesn't match yours. It's hilarious, if not pathetic.

I've read the interviews with Chapman already and am well aware of what's been said. He's obviously not worked hard enough in training to get ahead of others in the first team. He's had some hard luck with injuries since rejoining, but ultimately it's up to him to get fit and prove to the manager in training that he's good enough to warrant a place in the team. I've not questioned any of that. 

The only thing I challenged was your comment about his u23 performances. "He had an attitude problem and didnt performed well enough for the under 23 so never deserve a chance in the first team."

Last season he scored 2 goals and assisted 4 times in 5 Premier League 2 games. I watched the games against Derby, Leicester and Everton. He scored or assisted in each game and as I said earlier, I felt he was a class above and a real threat in those games I watched. That and his form at Shrewsbury on loan show that there has been a bit of an upturn in his form and attitude, which should hopefully hold him in good stead for next season. 

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

You mean when we were allow to watch the under 23's games in the 19/20 season before this pandemic hit the country?

No wonder people get their back up with you.

You could watch some of the u23 matches last season for free via other clubs' websites. So I watched two or three of the games last season when Chapman played before he went out on loan to Shrewsbury. 

39 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

You are dead right mate.  Makes you wonder if you only get in the team if you're a nice lad and don't question Tony.

 Chapman seems to be a bit of a bugger but so what....Like you say, class above our younger players including Buckley

 

I'm aware of your previous with Buckley haha. Jury is still out on him for me. If he doesn't cut the mustard this season (he should get plenty of opportunities), he needs moving on from.

42 minutes ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

You can make that case I suppose, but you could also say he hasn't taken any opportunities he was given either, far from it. Looked well off the pace whenever I watched him play senior 

Agreed but he's only really came on for 15-20mins if he's lucky. He's likely to get more of a chance this season if we don't properly add to the squad, regardless of his merits/weaknesses. Then we can properly judge.

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

In a different position and league lower. 

He had an attitude problem and didnt performed well enough for the under 23 so never deserve a chance in the first team

I don't agree with your under 23s comment at all. I watched a few of their games last season when Chapman was still around and he looked a class above the rest (as you'd expect). Really looked a threat. 

He's definitely deserved more opportunities than he's had at Rovers but I do think he was rightly gazumped by Dolan after pre season last time out. Hopefully he shows a bit more this time around.

3 minutes ago, JoeH said:

Harry Chapman contract. https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2021/june/Chapman-signs-new-Rovers-deal-/

I think it's actually quite positive that he's signed up after looking like he was gone. He needs a run of games though. Someone we've all probably written off but may well show us something if he's given the game time.

1 hour ago, JoeH said:

New training kit on display 

 

Looks quite smart to be fair.

2 hours ago, TheRoversReturn said:

¡Estamos en la sede del Blackburn Rovers, casa de BEN BRERETON! - Pelota Parada

 

Posted this on the TM thread but it should really be on here Chilean TV visits Ewood in the latest escalation of Brereton-mania, plus they speak to Bradley Dack and a Tony Mowbray scribbling like a nutter on his tactics board.

That bit where Mowbray is scribbling away is absolutely ridiculous. I laughed out loud but really don't find it funny. That's our manager...

4 hours ago, JoeH said:

If any of the following players signed for Rovers today: Woods, Graham, Wintle, Rhodes, Ruffels, Pearson, Campbell, Onyedimna, Lansbury, Jerome & Dozzell - there would've been massive backlash and online vitriol from many supporters, and on most accounts, rightly so.

The players available so early, much like the ones we've let go early, are the players discarded by other clubs. They're not the ones we should be going after. Could you just imagine if we'd sorted out 3 deals so far in the form of Cameron Jerome, Andre Dozzell and Jordan Graham - people would be absolutely fuming.

You're bang on mate. Although I'd take Rhodes back purely for sentimental reasons in the hope that we could get goals out of him again. 

We're scarily close to seeing how he performs as our main man up front (assuming Armstrong leaves this summer). Regardless of what has come before (form wise, goal return, etc), we can't afford to lose him on the cheap at the moment. 

I'd be offering him a new contract this summer to protect our investment and seeing how he gets on next season. 

Chuffed for the lad. Just watched his cameo on iplayer and he really impressed. Playing (& training) at that level is only going to help his club form and confidence. Nice to have something to be positive about for a change.

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

I think as ever, we are in our usual post season lull where nothing gets done for ages. Budgets, transfers, kits, season tickets, nothing. The links all seem like the above, eager agents touting their players out to numerous teams. Throw in the stagnation on the pitch and its easy to see why no one is getting excited.

You're right. We could all agree to log back in at the end of July and there still wouldn't be much to discuss. 

1 hour ago, neophox said:

Would you take Assombalonga?

 

 

I would to be honest. But I'm literally only basing that on what he was like a couple of years ago. Definitely a busted flush vibe about him now though.

Whilst I don't doubt the importance of data in football, I doubt the importance of its application at Rovers. For years we've seemingly picked transfer targets based on players Mowbray's teams have played against before, whether someone is a nice man or not, what said players wear when they meet the management team & players from Middlesbrough. We're presumably ignoring a lot of data based scouting to do that. 

There needs to be a whole culture shift at the club before it plays any significant role for us. For me, that starts with Mowbray and his mates leaving. There's almost no point bickering about that until it happens. 

I really want him to do well but a lot will need to fall in place for Brereton to hit heights you'd expect from a £7m signing.

He's quite good at running with the ball and taking on men but his shooting is completely sub par. He doesn't seem to have any ball striking ability. Most of his efforts are very tame. That's such a fundamental thing that he needs to be coached on. 

Just now, RoverKyle said:

This diagram only serves to highlight how poor my knowledge is of our squad numbers at the moment 😅

Kaminski, Lenihan, Armstrong & Nyambe being the top 4 (in descending order) I believe.

2 minutes ago, JoeH said:

You can now move JRC up to 2024. Still incredibly worrying the lack of players in our green square there. Grant Bradley Dack would be in there in a season without long-term injury, and perhaps Lewis Travis too - but only just. 

This diagram only serves to highlight how poor my knowledge is of our squad numbers at the moment 😅

On JRC, not a player I'm particularly bowled over by, but it's important that we keep hold of the remaining lads that are in and around our first team. Hopefully Rothwell & Nyambe to come, although I suspect the latter will be the hardest to sort.

Grabbi, Murphy & Best for me. The money we spent on fees & wages for those three is disgusting.

I wouldn't want Hodgson. He's very much in the Mowbray mold, albeit has operated at a much higher level for most of his career. Maybe we can't be picky and he'd be classed as a coup at this stage.

I won't lose any sleep over Evans leaving. Flattered to deceive for most of his Rovers career. He looked good alongside Cairney when he first signed, but has only had fleeting spells of good form since. Out injured loads and reportedly one of our higher earners. It's time for us to move on but I wish him all the best. If Davenport can prove he's not made of glass, we've got a ready made replacement (or potential upgrade) in the squad already.