I think Walney Blue is downright genuine and I've enjoyed his posts.

Anyway Captain Pugwash is calling so just off upstairs to check for Seaman Staines, Roger the Cabin Boy and damn, I can't remember the third one!

Edit - Master Bates!

Apparently,the creator of Captain Pugwash was absolutely gutted by the urban myths about Roger the cabin boy and Seaman Staines etc, who never existed in the original. I am sad enough to remember that the cabin boy's name was Tom

False titles are only too relevant on here......Steve Kean, the football manager, The Walker "Trust".......I am sure you can think of more

The fans are able. Not enough are willing, for a variety of different reasons.

Not sure about this,Stuart.

Yes, the fans could organise a strategy, which might include different methods of protest etc, BUT we all know who the owners are.Kings of upside down perversity and arrogance.

A few years ago, we escaped the drop by the skin of our teeth. Venky's response?......not only did they leave Kean in post, but weakened the very squad that only just survived.

Even after the Bolton game, Kean remained. After relegation, yes, you've guessed it..and somewhere along the line, he even got a new contract, as if to show the fans they didn't count

In the end, when Kean disappeared,they hadn't sacked him. I think he even took them for constructive dismissal.

Let's be honest Gavlar, when you've watched the club when it was bottom of Division Three, you know that it could always be worse! There are many ways it could always be worse.

Not quite, PB. Before the Tranmere game in November 71, we believed in men like Bancroft and Furphy.

This is a different world. No trust, no belief...

Hmmmm....................I'd like to do the same but something else to replace the 'dance'

"If I had the wings of an angel"... Personally, I was always struck by the powerful contrast in the next line.....

Quite right. No point supporting the Rovers if you want to win trophies. They've been few and far apart all my life.

Its not about that for us and many others. But I expect them to be up for it whoever and wherever we play. I loved the fact teams didn't like coming up north to play us under those managers.

Yeah. Remember Gordon Lee before a home game with Charlton? Something about Northern grit being too much for the London outfit

Ha! You can't pick cherry-pick, you have to take the inevitable relegation that was coming when he left us for Newcastle as well!

Absolutely.Mainly good but certainly mixed.A bit of a paradox....

Kick-ass, promotion, Worthington Cup....then fall outs and physical fights with players. Did he break his hand or was it a foot after an incident with one of his own players? Yorke, I think?

The Rovers fans away at Newcastle were chanting something like "See what Souness left behind!" We were definitely going down, if he hadn't left.

I will always remain grateful to him for his achievements, though

It's been going on for alot longer than that. Blackburn boulevard in the 1960s was packed with fans in red and white scarves waiting for buses for Manchester. I hate disloyalty to town, club and country. Made my blood boil then and still does now.

I am the same and I have been called a football fascist for my views about glory hunters! What right have I to decide who other people support?... blah, blah...

I was in the Hare and Hounds a few years back when Rovers suffered one of their customary, dodgy refereeing decisions at Old Trafford.

Anyway, this Utd fan was celebrating- OTT- in front of all his Rovers supporting mates...they were all only 18 or so... I should have known better.

I waited until he had stopped and everything had quitened down. Then, in the politest, most charming, avuncular voice I could muster I said.

"Excuse me , mate. Do you mind if I just ask you something?"

When he acknowledged me- innocently- in front of all his mates, I asked,:

"What part of Manchester do you come from?"

Cue... All his mates turned on him, howling abuse,catcalling, saying that he lived in Mellor!

The kid was so angry . He started swearing and calling me all sorts.

Into every young life, a drop of rain must fall....or something.

I thought daddy taught them to only get 3 out of 10 wrong

Well he certainly got these three wrong uns.

Maybe there are seven other Rao children with modesty, emotional intelligence,intellect integrity, inclusivity, good taste and communication skills?

It may have been Granada

Granada ..95% sure

Some very amusing imagery indeed but I think the concept of money laundering is lost on some on here.

Hypothetically if you put 20m of "dirty" money in you expect to get 20m or 20m less a suitable arrangement fee back not lose the lot then carry on haemorrhaging money at the rate of 2m plus per month.

On that note I notice Ian Battersby in one of his most recent interviews said it was time to put all the conspiracy theories to bed.

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If Frankie Howerd set up an accountancy firm....

Re Ian Battersby, in the words of Mandy Rice Davies " he would say that wouldn't he?". Mr B's strategy must be to try and engage the V's. Inn his shoes I would take the same line, I guess. Right now I don't feel like being strategic..the whole thing has been rotten from the very start.

To quote my youngest during the infamous Spurs game.." Why did they have to buy our club?!"

I now have an image of Balaji lobbing one off sat on the couch in pi$$-stained y-fronts.

Great.

Thanks.

I can't follow that!

2 Questions !

1. Do they do a service wash ?

2. Do they remove all the stains ?

PS, Does the woman in charge ever wear curlers on site ? they usually do !

Removes unmentionables .... agent's fingerprints...indian ink....even venk stains! (I know I've gone too far )

And quite possibly some characters from Glasgow, that only a real life Taggart could sort-out.

What's this country coming to !!!! Just been to the cash machine drew-out £100, the notes are all filthy,

Do you think it will be ok to put them in the washer ? I just hate dirty money ! don't you ?

There seems to be a good laundry at Ewood...Try that...everyone else did!

Look up Hanlon's razor.

Sadly, I did. Not sure all this can be "adequately explained by stupidity"

We have a bling merchant who keeps dodgy company and has to have bodyguards and walks around at home possibly armed. We have a head honcho Mrs who has form for some dodgy investment that went to court. Then to cap it all we had a dark lord. Please don't tell me something somewhere wasn't a bit fishy

Anderson, Kean, Agnew, Singh, Balaji, Shaw, Madame Grim equals more than one shoal!

There's no reason whatsoever why ill feeling towards the owners will or should dissipate unless or until the unlikely situation comes about that they put us back in roughly the same position as that which they found us in.

However I don't understand people's need to substitute rank incompetence for something more sinister such as shadow owners, illegal betting scams etc etc.

Oh I can. At best, it is the classic vacuum. A pattern of mind bogglingly, obviously self destructive decision making, delivered in complete silence.

At worst, there are/were unknown, let's say fishy explanations. Key people pursued ends other than the proper purpose of any football club i.e. to win matches...

The reaction of fans is entirely normal and to be expected.

I really enjoyed that. Thanks.

Been a fan for over 40 years. Port Vale, Anfield and Cardiff my biggest highs. Gay Meadow and Selhurst Park my lows.

Still engulfed by the sense of burning injustice. Yes, I do know need to move on but I am "stuck". I guess I would be Michael Douglas in a Rovers version of Falling Down!

I took the decision not to renew my season ticket in a powerless sense of having to make some kind of personal statement.

Because of the lies and secrecy, mine is only a partial analysis. It is difficult to know the right thing to do. I know I am watching my kids' cultural inheritance being trashed, I am only too mindful of the post 1960 bitterness from "sad old men" that met my undying loyalty to Tony Field and co in the early 70's.How I understand them now!

The only solution is some kind of reconciliation process, which can only start with an apology from Venky's, plus an honest description of their plan going forward. Fat chance of that!

Leonard Venkhater