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23/24 kit; is a new sponsor needed?
JHRover replied to alex l's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Amazing. Those supply chain issues that have plagued Rovers for the last 3-4 years must end at Whitebirk. -
Ah the good old 'i won't be going so who cares' routine. Just the same as 'I can afford it so who cares if season tickets are too expensive or I enjoy the atmosphere at Ewood so who cares if others don't. Newsflash - some people will be going and yes to some it is a pain in the arse to arrange time off, flights, hotels at 2 weeks' notice when the club previously promised to not leave it to the last minute.
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How many foreign trips following Rovers have you been on and how many have you tried arranging at 2 weeks notice?
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Basically we've delayed and delayed as long as we possibly can without announcing anything, the cat is out of the bag because someone at the Austrian end has released it on that app, so yeah lets announce something. They did the same with Marbella in December, refused to announce anything and then the week before they were forced to after people already knew about it.
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Now that a third party app has us down as playing and fans have found out about it via Twitter expect some desperate and embarrassing attempt by Rovers to confirm it after the event. Joke club.
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What does Waggott actually do? He's managed to seemingly absolve himself of any responsibility or culpability for any element of the footballing operation. He's the boss, isn't he? Rovers will know where they are training that week, which will have been booked for weeks now if not months. This isn't something that can be arranged overnight or at a weeks notice. All they needed to do was tell fans where they were training and when and that they intend on playing at least one game whilst there. That would have been enough for me and others to book some flights and sort travel out. You take a risk, games may move or fall through, so be it, at least you know what they are doing. Claiming to be keeping fans in mind in May, promising to be quicker about releasing information and then being here in late June with nothing is poor. Interesting how it seems to happen each and every year whilst others just get on with it.
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They just don't want fans there. No money to be made so Waggott not interested, in fact he's probably annoyed that we're incurring the expense and he'd rather we went to Skegness or somewhere. Beneath him nobody interested or bothered. Imagine they'll be quite happy if no fans there Unfortunately for them you can't pick and choose or turn support on and off at your convenience. Other clubs recognise this which is why they let people know what is happening. They tried it with Marbella in December, only announcing one of the games about 4 days before the event and claiming one was behind closed doors. This was only announced after Ajax and the Marbella football centre had let it slip. It's poor but completely expected at this Club. The people responsible just don't get what it is and means to follow your team.
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23/24 kit; is a new sponsor needed?
JHRover replied to alex l's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Ah right, so let me guess, we've 'done all we can'? Strange that every other club around was able to sell replica kits at Xmas and make money whilst we resorted to churning out some retro gear as the only option people had to buy a blue and white halved shirt. It just isn't good enough for any business especially one pleading poverty. -
23/24 kit; is a new sponsor needed?
JHRover replied to alex l's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Waggott is a one trick pony and that applies to his ticketing policies and his sponsorship / commercial performance. Low key, easy, quick, low risk, local, short term The fact that the Totally Wicked deal lapsed, we were allegedly looking for a new sponsor, only to end up going back to Totally Wicked who signed up for a mere 12 month extension, speaks volumes. They'll be familiar to Waggott, in his phone book, based locally and easy to sort out. Even putting aside the morals of having a vaping company adorning our kits and training gear, it reeks to me of take the quickest and easiest option just to box the issue off. Clock ticking, embarrassing if no sponsor, so just revert to the tried and tested. I don't buy for one minute the 'we've done all we can' routine and seriously believe that this is the best deal possible for Rovers I wouldn't even be that bothered about it if we weren't being told every 5 minutes that we are stuck under FFP and need to raise income. So do it then, show us how serious you are about it. Truth is they aren't. -
I think they've got a training camp booked there so doubt they'll pull the plug on that part They were hoping to have two games out there, then last week Rich Sharpe suggested it would only be one. Still think it will go ahead but in typical Rovers fashion it will only be announced at the latest possible date making it as difficult as possible for fans to go out.
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23/24 kit; is a new sponsor needed?
JHRover replied to alex l's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I have explained two ways of addressing the 'FFP problem' which are more reliable steps than hoping to sell players - increase revenues through commercial income. Two fundamental steps to doing this are increasing sponsorship income and increasing shirt sales. We've totally failed on that front. No shirts available to buy from November onwards would be laughable if it wasn't the same club bemoaning income limitations. You're right. Just because I can't name a company definitely interested in sponsoring Rovers' shirts means there is absolutely nobody in the world who would do it. We've scoured the globe and it just so happens the best option is one up the road already in Waggott's contact list. Same argument about alternative owners to the wretched Venkys. Try to convince yourselves that there is no other option but the one we have. It might make you feel better but there is a big world out there. -
23/24 kit; is a new sponsor needed?
JHRover replied to alex l's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Defeatism again. If Waggott or whoever is unable to get better than perhaps we need to be replacing them with someone who has the skills and contacts to do so. You like to keep reminding me that FFP is a big problem. Well shirt sponsorship and shirt sales are two important ways around that. It seems you are content to accept whatever comes along and shrug your shoulders. Again, if the Club was proactive and serious about getting past FFP issues then it would ensure there was adequate stock of kits and ensure there was a lucrative sponsor in place. -
23/24 kit; is a new sponsor needed?
JHRover replied to alex l's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Surprise Surprise. Local, short term, vaping. Right out of the Waggott textbook. When the Club starts taking merchandising and sponsorship seriously - having kits available to buy and actually securing reputable and lucrative shirt sponsorship- I'll believe FFP is an issue being taken seriously -
We've released Dacky and Diaz, two hugely popular players and personalities and proven Championship quality, and replaced so far with a lads on frees from Plymouth and Vitesse that hardly anyone had even heard of. I'd suggest rather than exciting fans and encouraging more to buy it's actually the opposite and suggests cutbacks and lowering of ambitions Hopefully this changes.
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Hopefully they go for Corberan and in doing so torpedo West Brom
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For footballing rather than financial reasons I think a game against one of the relegated sides is the best outcome. Get a 'tough' game done early whilst they are adjusting and settling down under new management.
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No longer Championship but I see Wigan have once again been saved and bought out by new owners Thought it was a mistake at first as I keep being told there are no buyers for such clubs and for that reason we are stuck with Venkys forevermore.
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So it's now 7 years since Warnock was courted and then overlooked by us for the managers job and we sealed relegation by bringing in Coyle. Since then he's taken Cardiff to the PL and also managed Middlesbrough and Huddersfield pulling off survival jobs with both. There were folk back in 2016 saying he wasn't suitable for us because he only had a year left in him before he retired and we needed a 'longer term' manager...
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Still nothing about foreign games, team flies out 3 weeks on Sunday. Despite claiming they would inform fans in good time to enable people to travel they haven't done. Almost like they aren't arsed about fans going and watching.
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Could Waggott not use the substantial bonus funds received from two good cup runs and an extraordinary number of live TV broadcasts to plug any gap caused through cheaper season tickets? Answer - yes he could, but that would involve imaginative thinking and measures that might affect his numbers and jeopardise his bonus. We know what is more important here - keeping him in a job and collecting PRP rather than developing or growing the club, so we will be expected to forget all about such additional income and any sell on fees that might be received. The £70k+ per week being saved through the latest cost cuts will also help him along.
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Maybe, maybe not, but I'd love to know what, if anything, Rovers had to say about the Bolton Road bus lane nonsense and the closure of multiple parking sites such as those opposite the Fox and Hounds and Empire Theatre. My guess is they said and did nothing and the result is that now we have chaos and panic stations when there is even a chance of a 20,000 crowd, luckily for them we don't get anywhere near 30,000 because they just couldn't cope.
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Don't forget that when they slashed prices PNE also had the wherewithal to promote it with proper advertising. That included a sustained online campaign of advertising but also the good old fashioned approach of sticking leaflets through letterboxes. That included them distributing pricing info around houses in Garstang Waggott has done nothing of the sort. Efforts to advertise limited to occasional twitter / Facebook posts and as for making an effort outside of BWDBC area the last I heard was that we have a new excuse there which is that we can't target areas further away through fear of upsetting the EFL or neighbouring clubs. Not sure what they can do to stop us or who gets to decide which areas belong to whom but in my book if PNE are able to target Garstang we have just as much right and reason to. But when riddled with laziness and corner cutters (pitch, programme, club shop, sponsorship) we know where the problem really lies.