Playing for a Tony pulis side they are good stats for anyone who doesn't have a long throw.

He was bad this season no argument there what I'm saying is there have been loads of cases where players have not lived up to price tag in first year but proved well worth the money over time. Let the player develop to the potential many think he has and the fee which could rise to 7m will have been worth it. Or we bin him off call him a flop and buy someone. I know which strategy I thinks better.

How about we see what Brereton has done for the club by the time he leaves then we will be able to accurately assess if he has been worth what's been spent. The knee jerk reactions to signings astounds me I'm guessing everyone writing Brereton off also thought bale flopped at spurs

Never played for villa again whilst true is a bit much considering it was two games.

Or at his advanced age his wage demands have dropped to a level where we can sign him to fill for Conway whilst using money to strength other areas

Could argue they were all promoted last year. Just saying

Gestede was alright

Why the hysteria over potentially signing Downing if he fits in the wage structure and the manager rates him.

Derby announced 14m profit this year as they sold the chairman the stadium. That's fine but they got all uppity when someone watched them train.

We will only be much better if we get a player at least as good as Reed in that scenario.

Helps if the owner buys the stadium for 80m like derby's

I think we could get more than Reed and Gally would cost for Dack tbh. The only problem I see is to get the best from Dack we have to play him in behind one central striker so BB and AA have to play out wide when they play as neither are suited to playing up top alone Gallagher for all he's a big lad I don't know if his hold up play is suited to being a lone target man either so he would probably get shunted out wide as well.

Davies looked a decent keeper when I watched Barnsley albeit only saw them the once.

Not really got a problem with activating the clause in JLs contract he's prob not on a great deal of money and it gives cover until we sign another keeper then we can sell or loan him out.

It was a massive moment for spurs fans tho and like it or not as the rules currently stand the goal was correctly ruled out.

Such a good job that he inherited both of those players then eh oh wait.

For all the people saying Dack had a quite game today I would argue now Harvey Barnes has gone back to llhis parent club Dack is the best player in the championship in an attacking sense

Did Dack not get the assist for the first goal.

At what point do we stop seeing a player as a midfielder Mulgrew has played the vast chunk of his career as a center back and plays there at international level. Lenihan was a defencive midfielder coming through our youth team but since he broke into the team has been playing at cb I'd argue that's his position now if you don't agree the Rodwell was a cb coming through Evertons youth and moved into midfield in the first team so does that make him a cb?

Talking of Chris Brown he's on a podcast and was talking about his time under Bowyer who he said was always paranoid about people watching from houses spying on training. And after a a game v Rochdale or Shrewsbury in the carabao accused Brown of giving them the team before kick off

I think in some cases the loan fee increases if they don't play as well say you pay 25% of his wages/fee if he plays x amount compared to 50% if he does not play at all making it sensible to let him be recalled if the opposition so desire.

To be fair we will only know if a player is a dud when he leaves the club sometimes bringing a player along slowly when he's ready to play helps in the long run.

Not saying we should looking to sell but you never know what could happen if we where to it could force a change in shape where we buy two actual wingers and move say a Brereton or an Armstrong up top with Graham perhaps getting the best from one of those. If push comes to shove I'd much rather keep Bradley tho.

I think what vinjay is hunting at is under the ffp rules as they stand Jack would have not been allowed to invest in Rovers the way he did. Its a tough issue but I'm not a fan of the system myself Under FFP an owner like Jack would be curtailed in his ambitious but owners like the Oystons are fine.

Pen or not it only goes someway to addressing the blatant ones we have not been given over the last couple of seasons.