I hear people say that for some i just don't believe it

That would leave a few on here with a sour taste as much as people say they want him to do well there a lot who have gone way over the top in their criticism of a 19-20 year old player. What would be an acceptable goal return for him this season in peoples view?

No the only time I saw him before the u21s myself was in highlights when he was part of the Sunderland team that went Down but that's a bit unfair as the only time he was on them apart from the countless goals they were conceding was his 2 reds in 8 starts and 3 sub apperences

I just assumed that he was part of the so called squandered 12m so took him and Gally out lad.

And then we would woefully short up top. DG is not getting younger nuttall and Samuel are for me the same as your Hart analysis and Armstrong will never be an option as a lone striker.

Why even bother then? We need a cb crys the message board we look to be signing one but not this one WA WA WA. Damned if you do dammed if you don't.

Could you not say anyone of the young cbs have replaced Downing as he was so far down the pecking order he was almost irrelevant until he left and became van dijk to some.

Hmm yeah I think I agree with that we have to continue to move forward which we have been doing since he came in as soon as we don't it has to be looked at but for the moment it's fine.

Which he has.

Its not great tbh but there are others in a worse boat than us in terms of player trading this summer.

Wait you don't like the Brereton deal you should have said. The picture you paint of us finishing 15th then 15th a few years later conveniently misses out the coyle spell where he all but relegated the club so no your wrong he was 100% doughnut.

We are progressing sorry your just painting it in the most negative light we where in league 1 and where never really in a relegation battle that's progress from when TM took over. The squad we have now along with the youngsters we have coming through are vastly superior to the one inherited by Mowbray.

Not sure why it's so hard for people to grasp this was this not a similar model we employed for years in the prem.

Why if at the end of it we are a better team for it.

They have he's on a deal till 2022

Could it not be more Dack Gally Armstrong

Villa have signed hause, mings, engels and konsa who along with Chester means they are relatively well stocked with cbs. The more likely thing standing in the way is man u wanting to keep him tho this might change if they land slab head.

Unless the plan is to play mulgrew in a kind of sweeper role letting him play out from the back.

Some is a key word there i feel

If its someone who can be converted into a wingback this would suggest a move to 3 at the back in which case people might get their 3 new defenders and a keeper as we would need at least 2 CBs in this situation.

Foderingham?

If we do want to sign a full back and Olsson was a target maybe fir arguments sake on the c list would it not make sense to wait to see if we can get A or B before the window closes as I think as he's on a free he could be signed after the window.

I disagree one quality cb will help massively a goal keeper is a must but to throw in the need for two full backs this late is just setting the manager up to fail which I guess is the whole point of this

I don't think we need three additions to the back four if we are being honest and I think it's unreasonable to expect this to be the case we need a cb ( possibly two) and a keeper.

They value him at 8m apparently in that market is Gallagher overpriced?