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He ain’t coming for money mate. Sure he’ll get a rise but the lads love Mowbray. If anything he’s too good to them...why’s Mulgrew not literally rotting right now after that outburst?

??? like the gift that keeps on giving.. Read the article mate...”It’s an opportunity we couldn’t miss....we had the money to spend so why not...” How many times does the word ‘opportunity’ figure? Another question, where in their does our painfully honest leader mention our detailed scouting of him? Bearing in mind he’s our joint Record signing... Brereton was an “opportunity” brought to them at the end of the window whilst they were making £4m Luke Freeman bids with cash on their hip. They took the bait and still think there’s a top player in there but that deal was the catalyst for the overhaul in scouting process, lead by Mowbray.

They probably just asked mate...like rubbing a genies lamp so I’ve heard!! ?

Haha - If only you knew!! I can tell you that Brereton was barely scouted and brought to them via an external scouting network in collaboration with an agency who sold us the dream. I used him because BB is the epitome of not being a Mowbray signing. That signing is part of the reason Mowbray tore up the old system and created the new one. Because either way, any signing made under the watch of a manager who has the final decision, good or bad belongs to that manager. This same rule stands in every industry. Which is why leaders are sacked when organisations fail.

Mate, they’re one in the same thing...good and bad...surely you can see that?

Kenny, c’mon pal, that’s just a manager being honest! Dya think Fergie went out, scouted and recruited all those top players? Course he didn’t, he had scouts reporting into him and making recommendations that he either accepted or rejected. The recruitment team (that the manager built) came to the manager and brought a player to the table. They had a discussion and the manager trusted his team....now whether it’s Dolan or Brereton the player is a Tony Mowbray signing. The end. We can’t have it one way and not the other.

Apologies Rev. I didn’t mean that at all. I’m sorry it made you feel that way I was just thinking out loud in terms of a link between mindset and general happiness / fulfilment of potential etc...us guys chat a lot on here (prob more than we do to our wives) ?...I often wonder about the person behind the persona...if that makes sense. For the record I 100% respect everyone’s opinions, whilst the negativity grates on me, I didn’t mean to offend mate.

Great thread and info Chris....maybe the focus could be around potential targets that the likes of you, Joe and a few others seem to find, watch and analyse? Be a cracking space to develop and refer back to as we continue to bring players in from Europe....the Norwegian national team left back could / would be our 4th European capture in 12 months. ??

Thanks Stuart, whilst I think the criteria that you segregate with is slightly off, I respect your choice and your opinion. What would be interesting would be to map the personal and vocational successes of those who apparently “bury their head in the sand” vs those who you report are “very concerned” (essentially happy clappers vs mood hoovers).....though that’s a completely different debate! Anyways, how’s our Norwegian left back progressing guys?

Shock!!! ?? Hows about these two camps whilst you’re magically making stuff up...Hypothetically speaking of course.. Camp one - Choose to be happy with the current situation and want to see the upward trend continue to improve. Camp two - miserable bastards who have to find something to moan about every single day. There you go, Two perspectives. Who’s to say which one is correct?

I think you are enjoying it. Im just flabbergasted that people are coming onto the transfer to bang on about how shit the manager is and comparing him at a time like this... The Dolan point is completely moot too. The manager set up the recruitment team and pathways. He installed the staff in there too. The signings, good and bad on his watch belong to him. Managers do not go out and scout potential players they put trusted teams in to report back to them and they trust those opinions. They’ll likely watch a first team target but will be happy not to watch an 18yr old.

It’s not realism though because none of anything being said is fact. You have a choice mate. A choice between being positive or negative, between feeling happiness or sadness...you can actually choose!! The point I’m making is that maybe by Christmas the dream will be over. Who really knows? But today, 7th October 2020, we as Rovers fans have a lot to feel happy about in terms of the way things have gone this summer and the early part of this season. Let’s enjoy it!! Even for a short while! Kinell we’ve waited long enough!?

Can’t believe how hard some posters are working to find negativity.... We’ve had a good start, signed some good players, are playing our young lads, winning and entertaining. Yet you have some hammering this thread with tedious chat about Chris Houghton being better than Mowbray, every good player signed either fell into our lap or wasn’t actually signed by the manager but every signing with a question mark is hung around the managers neck. Fuck me lads. I don’t think we’ve had an opportunity to be positive like this since those lot took over and sacked big Sam. Can we not just enjoy it for while? ????

Eh? Raya wasn’t sold from under Mowbray. He didn’t rate him. Opinions on Watkins and Arma. My point was, i would only consider selling for around that mark based on the reasons I provided. As for the reinvestment figure. Just being realistic. We aren’t getting 100% of any sale to reinvest.

I don’t think so mate. Tbf we’ve set our stall out now and they haven’t sold anyone from under Mowbray yet. My guess is that we’ll only sell for BIG money and if we have replacements lined up. Watkins form in the PL won’t be going unnoticed for admirers of Arma. Young, English and prolific at Championship level...but I’d want the same as Brentford got for Watkins and then at least £15m to reinvest.

Think you’re talking about Harrison Reed but your point stands. They’ll both (TA and HR) be on £60k+ per week now. 4yr contracts? They’re set for life. That’s the real difference. Oppositely, SG took a considerable pay cut to join us.

Mowbray told a couple of us that he was on “more than double our top earners” at the fans forum when he was asked about him signing permanently. I nearly fell through the floor

I don’t think there would’ve been a problem if we’d offered them £60k a week.

No we couldn’t. Firstly, I doubt very much that the fee is £2m but either way, Tosin was on £40k a week at City which will now be somewhere in the region of £50-60k at least now. Reed will be on similar, probably more.

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Spurs signing Rodon a young CB from Swansea may see them reignite their interest in Williams. I’ve always thought Williams was a decent Championship cb. Wonder how many of our fans would still ‘personally drive him’ to Swansea for £1m now??? Id want at least £3m btw if they have £18m burning a hole in their back pocket.

I know we’ve had a decent start to the season but at what point did we get so good that we no longer think the current Norwegian LB isn’t good enough to depose Amari’i Bell?

Was around 12 months ago that I first heard from a member of the Rovers youth set up that Buckley is the jewel in the crown that is our academy. That accolade seems even more impressive considering they were including those from our academy who are already involved (Nyambe, Trav, Lenihan). At the time I hadn’t even seen Buckley play and then only saw a couple of cameos last season which didn’t blow me away. Then I saw the Everton and Leicester scouts are the games pre Christmas and wondered who they were watching. Both claimed to be there for Buckley. There was a lot of talk buzzing around the lounge that day that if Bucko had a run in the team then there may be a bid in Jan. There was even a suggestion that Rovers had said they wouldn’t accept anything other than 8 figures. Apparently those two and another PL team had been tracking him for a while. Since this time I’ve followed him more closely and he is just SO highly regarded by everyone I speak to. Ability, mentality, work rate, personality...they’re adamant that if any of the lads are going to make it BIG it’s him. I’ve seen a change in him too but one things for sure, if / when he starts effecting games for the first team like he does for the 23’s we are going to have one, if not the best player in the league. Hope so!!

I’m not sure on the opinions Joe but having checked Transfermarkt, I’m pretty sure that a player who has represented Norway 30 times and has started every match (apart from two) for his country since October 2018 is better than Amari’i Bell. Up until the last two weeks I was adamant that I would play my 8yr old in front of Bell and fully expect her to perform better.