Rovers set to miss out on target (Daniel Ayala) as transfer search continues

55 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Mulgrew is on half that at best.

41 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

Cos Mulgrew’s on circa £15k? ??‍♂️

Closer to £25k a week.

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

can you tell us more about the player and they type of midfielder he is?

He's an excellent up and coming all round central defensive minded center midfielder.

Strong, likes to close down his opponents, get stuck in, excellent range of short and long range passing. Fast, composed and would certainly push Corry Evans. 6ft tall and has a high work rate.

1 hour ago, islander200 said:

This is a loan deal I would be against.United would want him playing, I doubt very much he would be available to buy at the end of the deal as is rated at United and we have enough young midfielders ourselves in Buckley, Davenport, Travis etc.

 

I sort of agree.

It would have to be conditional on Mowbray choosing to play him unless he comes with a view to a permanent deal. A sort of "money where mouths are" concerned deal.

If Venkys are serious about investing in quality for the future, Garner is exactly what we should be going for.

Not yet fully discovered by brimming with talent.

14 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Bit bemused we are looking at League One loans for Mulgrew. With their new wage cap in that league isn't the absolute max they can contribute 2.5k per week? On what is probably a 15-20k pw contract. Barely worth bothering. For now rather wait and make sure we get some CBs in and what happens with Williams.

I'm not.

His career is coming to an end.

He didn't impress at Wigan.

4 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

‘We’ aren’t looking for league 1 loans for him mate...that’s just the best he can get! I’m pretty sure if ‘we’ had the choice, we’d prefer City to offer £20m and have done with it!

Indeed.

Same going for Williams. A couple of Champiomship teams interested. But most interest coming Stateside.

Wages are major issues in moving both on.

Lancashire Telegraph echoing the story.

Rovers offered chance to sign Man United midfielder on loan

31 minutes ago, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

https://www.lancs.live/sport/football/transfer-news/blackburn-rovers-transfers-garner-united-18898483.

Garner linked again. Not the good one. 

? Loan with a view would be perfect. Superb footballer.

40 minutes ago, JoeH said:

Raya, Fisher, Leutwiler
Nyambe, Lenihan, Mulgrew, Williams, Grayson, P. Downing, Hart, Rodwell, Bell
Bennett, Chapman, Conway, Dack (up to his injury, was no question mark over fitness), Evans, Gladwin, Reed, Rothwell, Smallwood, Travis
Graham, Armstrong, Samuel, Brereton, Nuttall

vs

Kaminski, Fisher, Eastham
Bennett, Nyambe, Lenihan, Mulgrew, Williams, Bell, Magloire, Wharton, Carter
Johnson, Chapman, Dack, Evans, Travis, Rothwell, Dolan, Buckley, Davenport, JRC, Holtby
Armstrong, Gallagher, Brereton, Butterworth

Top squad finished 15th in the league. The bottom squad is supposedly doomed for relegation from day one? Give me a bleedin' break man!

Is worth noting the history of the above players be it injuries or relative progression from the academy with lack of experience.
Underlined denoted players who relatively recently progressed from the academy. Player who are red denotes a history (recent or historical) of injury plagued seasons.

There are a range of things to be concerned about this forthcoming season should nothing change in terms of incoming signings.

These are the issues I believe need addressing:
1- Lack of consistent forward goalscorer should one or both of Armstrong/Dack sustain lengthy injuries or hit a poor run of form. Gallagher, Brereton and Butterworth have no history of being consistent goalscorers to a degree that could keep them running for 6 months

2- Depth at the CB position. Should Williams and Mulgrew go as expected, it leaves us with Lenihan, Magloire and Carter from the above listed players with the likes of Travis/Nyambe capable of playing out of position, but not ideal

3- Right back. We have Nyambe who has fitness issues and Bennett when played out of position.

4- Left back. We have Bell and that is it really?

5- Wing options. Bennett, Chapman, Dolan, Buckley, Gallagher and Brereton. With our reduction in forward options, it should be expected that Gallagher and Brereton will be used out wide. That puts a high dependency on young heads to succeed on the wing.

6- To a lesser degree center-midfield. Our options are Johnson, Dack, Evans, Travis, Rothwell, Davenport, JRC, Holtby. Whilst many might argue this is a position we are most stocked in. I see a lot of players who have lengthy injury histories and again, young heads, topped off with a center midfielder who suffers from horrendous inconsistency.

From JoeH's list above. We have David Raya who played 46 games, Derrick Williams who played 29 games, Jack Rodwell who played 22 games, Charlie Mulgrew who played 31 games, Harrison Reed who played 36 games, Richie Smallwood who played 33 games, Craig Conway who played 26 games, Danny Graham who played 46 games, Joe Nuttall who played 18 games and Kasey Palmer (not on the list) who was on loan from Chelsea and played 17 games. That is 304 games played of players that are now not available to us.

Excluding the solitary new signing in our keeper, we have 214 appearances of players from last seasons players expected to depart. That is 214 appearances where Mowbray decided to play players we have either had end loan or Mowbray has deemed nolonger good enough or unable to sign a new contract to this season with no additions except for the keeper.

6 hours ago, Swanson said:

Not much to do on this nighwatch, so here is how and when we have bought players (summer windows) for the past 3 seasons :

17/18

Arrivals:

Peter Whittingham 13.06.2017
Richard Smallwood 20.06.2017
Bradley Dack 27.06.2017
Ben Gladwin 28.06.2017
Dominic Samuel 19.07.2017
Paul Caddis 20.07.2017
Joe Nuttall 22.07.2017
Jayson Leutwiler 02.08.2017
Harry Chapman 04.08.2017 LOAN
Marcus Antonsson 11.08.2017 LOAN
Rekeem Harper 31.08.2017 LOAN
Sam Hart 31.08.2017
Paul Downing 31.08.2017 LOAN

Departures:

Hope Akpan 01.07.2017
Wes Brown 01.07.2017
Gordon Greer 01.07.2017
Danny Guthrie 01.07.2017
Adam Henley 01.07.2017
Jason Lowe 01.07.2017
Connor Mahoney 01.07.2017
Anthony Stokes 21.07.2017
Jason Steele 26.07.2017

First league game 05.08.2017
Deadline day 31.08.2017

18/19

Arrivals:

Joe Rothwell 22.06.2018
Jacob Davenport 02.07.2018
Kasey Palmer 30.07.2018 LOAN
Adam Armstrong 06.08.2018
Jack Rodwell 23.08.2018
Harrison Reed 27.08.2018 LOAN
Ben Brereton 28.08.2018 LOAN
Brad Lyons 31.08.2018 LOAN (U23)
Mitchell Candlin 31.08.2018 LOAN (U23)

Departures:

Liam Feeney 30.06.2018
Elliott Ward 30.06.2018
Paul Caddis 31.08.2018
Peter Whittingham 31.08.2018

First league game 04.08.2018
Deadline day 31.08.2018

19/20

Arrivals:

Stewart Downing 21.06.2019
Bradley Johnson 05.07.2019
Sam Gallagher 13.07.2019
Christian Walton 23.07.2019 LOAN
Tosin Adarabioyo 31.07.2019 LOAN
Greg Cunningham 08.08.2019 LOAN

Departures:

Craig Conway 30.06.2019
Paul Downing 30.06.2019
Jack Rodwell 30.06.2019
David Raya 06.07.2019
Joe Nuttall 01.08.2019

First league game 03.08.2019

Deadline day 08.08.2019

Lewis Holtby 19.09.2019

20/21

Arrivals:

Tyrhys Dolan 01.07.2020 (U23)
Thomas Kaminski 26.08.2020
Connor McBride 02.09.2020 (U23)

Departures:

Danny Graham 24.07.2020
Dominic Samuel 24.07.2020
Richard Smallwood 24.07.2020
Sam Hart 24.07.2020
Jayson Leutwiler 24.07.2020

Charlie Mulgrew ??.??.2020
Derrick Williams ??.??.2020

First league game 12.09.2020

Deadline day 05.10.2020 + Domestic transfers until 16.10.2020

Source : Wikipedia and Transfermarkt.

Given context.

Not being able to complete signings this summer seems to be a running theme. What happened to our signing of D'Margio Wright-Phillips that was mooted at the end of last season?

40 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I've been told he hasn't been training with us. 

Also nothing on line about him moving to a club in Middle East so far. 

i hope we bring him in. 

39 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

didn't know you were football agent or transfer expert? My apologises 

 

In fairness. No players have been training with us on trial etc.

Just our current crop including Mulgrew and Williams who we are actively trying to move on.

Rovers very keen on Aynsley Pears, Boro keeper.

This transfer window is getting silly.

So what I have been told is that Mowbray hasn't been given a budget as such. He has told the owners what he is looking for and they have told him to go to them and get sign off for each offer made. This means added waiting time as the owners agents investigate each potential transfer deal, the costs and legal implications.

Something's got to give.

Brad Smith, Dénis Duarte, Naby Sarr, Bogdan Planić, Jozo Šimunović, Ryan Shotton, Daniel Ayala, Luke Garbutt, Stephen Kingsley, Calvin Verdonk and Víctor Álvarez are all available on a free transfer.

Just now, jim mk2 said:

Fisher needs hooking and cast aside. Not good enough for the 1st team

Not good enough for the academy.

Just now, CD_93 said:

Tad overreaction.

Indeed.
Which is why I corrected it.
It was basic goalkeeping error that high-school coaches correct out of their players arsenals.

Just now, Hoochie Bloochie Mama said:

calm down

Wasn't so match the initial mistake that bothered me there.
It was his lackluster reaction to recovering from it.

Makes Jake Kean and Jason Steele look competent.

BEGONE Fisher!

AWFUL AWFUL AWFUL.

Goal disallowed but dreadful.

That corner by Davenport! ?

Oh Fisher... ??

Looking at how we are playing right now and who we are still expecting to be at the club come mid-season. I still think we are a GK, a LB, 2 CB's and a LM/RM.

Fisher clearly isn't good enough as a number 2 keeper.

We have talented CB's who need loan games to gain experience and with Derrick Williams and Charlie Mulgrew likely soon to be departing that leaves us with Hayden Carter, Darragh Lenihan, Scott Wharton and Tyler Magloire. Only one of those players is anywhere near good enough.

Bell isn't good enough. Nothing more needs adding. Who else do we play at LB?

I really do worry about playing Gallagher and Brereton out of position. Bennett for me doesn't provide enough goals or assists. Again where does that leave us?

We have to get out of the habit of playing players out of position and even with that taking place that leaves us tight upfront. If Mowbray insists on playing forwards on the wing, then that leaves us short at least a striker.

Haven't even mentioned the apparent interest in bringing in a RB.

Bell is dreadful!

My son could defend better and he's 13 months old.

12 minutes ago, Boroblue said:

According to the commentary our defending is open,reckless and naive.

Has been.

Fisher's possession if the ball would be suicidal in the Championship.

Embarrassing stuff. Williams just hoofed the ball into the chest of Bradley Johnson in his own area.

Seems to be plenty of dropped heads in the Rovers lineup. We look devoid of defensive organisation and offensive spark.

Why start Brereton and Armstrong if you don't have a striker available for the bench?

Utterly baffling.

Personally really like it.

Tom Carroll announced as a QPR player.

On a free transfer always thought he'd have been a brilliant option for Rovers.