8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Good source of info

 

Relegated with his team in the 1st division of Polish football last season.

1 hour ago, mhead said:

Got his silver tongue round all the academy players he produced and how he had to solve the financial problems(thought he caused them?)

Of course he loves travelling and managing Clubs in new Countries. Blah blah blah

Thanks for coming on, Steve mate, says his old Glasgow "in crowd" buddy

Plus ca change.....

Steve Kean was an economic basket case who asset stripped the squad of value and Premier League talent leaving us in state we are today which resulted in our previous relegation to League One.

Signed:

Rubén Rochina - Barcelona B - £372,000 + £1,650,000 agent fees

Mauro Formica -  Newell's Old Boys - £3,500,000

Myles Anderson - Aberdeen - minimal fee

David Goodwillie - Dundee United - £3 million

Radosav Petrović - Partizan - £3 million

Bruno Ribeiro - Grêmio Prudente - Free transfer/End of contract

Simon Vukčević - Sporting CP - £2 million

Yakubu - Everton - Undisclosed fee - £1.5 million

Scott Dann - Birmingham City - £8m

Jordan Slew - Sheffield United - £1m

Tim Payne - Waitakere United - minimal fee

Marcus Olsson - Free transfer

Bradley Orr - Queens Park Rangers - minimal fee

Danny Murphy - Fulham - Free

Leon Best - Newcastle United - £3,000,000

Nuno Gomes Braga - Free

Fabio Nunes - Portimonense - Undisclosed

Paulo Jorge - Porto B - Undisclosed

Edinho Júnior - Olhanense - Nominal fee

Dickson Etuhu - Fulham - £1,500,000

Jordan Rhodes - Huddersfield Town - £8,000,000

Diogo Rosado - Sporting Lisbon - Free

Nuno Henrique - Académica - Nominal fee

Sold:

Frank Fielding - Derby County - £400,000

Zurab Khizanishvili - Kayserispor - Free

Jason Brown - Aberdeen - Free

Phil Jones - Manchester United - £16.5m-£22m plus add ons

Maceo Rigters - Gold Coast United - Free

Toni Vastić - Bayern Munich - Minimal fee

Benjani - Portsmouth - Free

Aaron Doran - Inverness Caledonian Thistle - 50% sell on fee (been playing for them for 9 years, 223 games and 32 goals scored)

Nikola Kalinić - FC Dnipro - £7m

Gavin Gunning - Dundee United - Undisclosed fee

Brett Emerton - Sydney -Undisclosed fee

El Hadji Diouf - Free agent - Mutually agreed contract termination

Jason Roberts - Reading - £500,000

Ryan Nelsen - Tottenham Hotspur - Hotspur - Free transfer

Christopher Samba - Anzhi - £11 million

Yakubu - Guangzhou R&F - £1,000,000

Junior Hoilett - Queens Park Rangers - Bosman (Undisclosed compensation; est ~£4,000,000)

Míchel Salgado - Released - Retired

Vince Grella - Melbourne Heart - Free

Nick Blackman - Sheffield United - Undisclosed

Radosav Petrović - Gençlerbirliği - Undisclosed

Mark Bunn - Norwich City - Undisclosed

Steven Nzonzi - Stoke City - £4,000,000 with add-ons.

 

Just now, K-Hod said:

...

Just trying to remind people of what was previously stated as per the 3 lists and how things stand right now.

We have been linked to several players who are just agent speak trying to get renegotiated terms or a free transfer move.

Agent talk about at the moment.

As of the day before yesterday Mowbray hadn't been told how much money he was going to have available to him this summer in terms if transfer fees, agent fees and wages.

He still has those three lists. Cheap players, more expensive players and top target players. But hasn't a clue what he can search for as yet.

Wish Matty Platt all the best with his move. But was astonished when I looked at his profile earlier and saw that he was 22. I thought he was 18.

Compare the number of competitive games he played to Wharton who is the same age and you will realise that this was probably the best move for all concerned.

Tom White has signed for Bolton Wanderers on a season long loan.

Tom teams up with the Trotters

Just re-signed for MK Dons after being initially released by them at the end of the season.

He only signed for them on a short-term deal and managed to play more games (10) for them in 6 months than he did for us in 36 months (8) due to injuries.

1 hour ago, islander200 said:

What about any possible funds we bring in from clauses with Josh King and maybe Raya?

Will that be added to our kitty?,You heard anything about outgoings?

I said it the other day.

If King and Raya both make moves this summer, the usual comments about money being available if needed will be made. But we will rely on free's and loans again. Might be a signing here or there on minimal fees and maybe even sign a player for half a million or less. But we won't make any signings of real cost and value. The club is hemorrhaging money.

Edit: In fact I will go further and say that if we sold Dack/Travis/Lenihan/Armstrong, we would still be looking for the same framework of players. Free's, minimal fees, half million types and loans.

35 minutes ago, philipl said:

I would not give Mowbray any transfer budget beyond  £2m or £3m to replace Raya with.

I would put hard cash on our total budget being less than that.

5 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Refusing to play post lockdown isnt an indicator of a bad attitude.

Its a quite understandable protection of a players career and is very common.

A couple of players refused to play following the end of the lockdown as family members, especially children had vulnerabilities including lung issues that could potentially kill them if exposed to Corona. This meant the players continuing the full lockdown with the agreement of clubs.

Sensible measure until a proper treatment for the disease is developed if you ask me. Football isn't as important as a persons life.

Could somebody answer 4 questions for me?

1. What is Bennett's playing role at Rovers?

2. How many assists has he gained in the last season?

3. How many goals has he gained in the last season?

4. How many decisive defensive performances has he put in this season?

When you answer the above questions and realise he is one of our highest earners at the club. Surely you have to ask yourself if there is anyone out there who is available and better?

Couple of players off the list I think might be worth a trial are Tom Carroll and Alexander Milošević.

Carroll could be a steal if he can get back into form/fitness and has plenty of experience.

Milošević at 6ft 4in would add to our tall defensive backline and give us a further threat at set pieces.

We definitely need 2 CB's this summer. More if as expected Mulgrew, Williams and maybe even Wharton depart.

Couldn't hurt to bring them in for a trial.

Jordan Archer is the player I'd like to see Rovers sign. 27 years old. 6ft 1in. Classy player. Plenty of experience at different levels. Impressed during his short spell at Oxford and signed up by Fulham on a short-term deal. Should be free or available on a minimum fee.

In a Championship challenging team he can't be a starter and his wages couldn't justify his presence as a bench option.

Wish him well.

For me this summer we obviously have some hefty work to do. But I would still like to see a couple of departures.

Have obviously read people's views over the last week or two and bit my tongue waiting on the final list of confirmed departures through expired contracts.

My thoughts are:

Sell/Release:

• Derrick Williams (injury prone / inconsistent / wages)
• Charlie Mulgrew (injury prone / inconsistent / wages)
• Elliott Bennett (wages / inconsistent / poor in natural posion + worse in other)

Players some want to depart, but I think would be a mistake:

• Bradley Johnson (experience needed)
• Harry Chapman (can come good)
• Sam Gallagher (tall option)
• Ben Brereton (ball play option)

Players I want retained:

•     Stewart Downing (experience / leader)

From what I gather, Mowbray will be relying on Free's and Loan's to patch together a working squad next season.

Shall post the top two division Released Lists to give an indicator of what we have available to us.

Players on high wages or are above our station can obviously be skimmed over by readers. Also expect Tony to make use of the International Market this summer, with Germany a country of interest.

(The following info is from official released lists dated June/July 2020, it might not account for players signed up to new contracts or signed for other teams)

2019/20 Free transfers

Premier League

AFC Bournemouth
Boruc, Artur (Contract extension)
Daniels, Charlie (Contract extension)
Defoe, Jermain Colin
Francis, Simon Charles (Contract extension)
Fraser, Ryan
Hamilton, Tyrell Anthony
Ibe, Jordon Femi Ashley
Seaman, Charlie
Smith, Bradley Shaun (Contract extension)
Surman, Andrew Ronald Edward (Contract extension)

Arsenal
Omole, Tobi

Aston Villa
Bazeley, Isaiah Robert Graham
Birch, Jack David
Chester, James Grant (Contract extension)
Doyle Hayes, Jake Billy
Gonzalez Tomas, Borja
Green, Andre Jay (Contract extension)
Hepburn-Murphy, Rushian Marcus Amori
Hooper, Anton Abeku
McCormack, Ross
O'Hare, Callum Luke
Odutayo, Colin Ladipo
Sarkic, Matjia (Contract extension)
Sea, Dimitri Disseka
Searle, Jamie Spencer

Brighton & Hove Albion
Cocoracchio, Luca George
Davies, Archie
Davies, Jordan Andrew
Freestone, Lewis Jay
Kayal, Beram (Contract extension)
Keto, Hugo Oliver
Lopata, Kacper Mieczyslaw
Radulovic Samoukovic, Bojan
Schelotto, Ezequiel Matias (Contract extension)

Burnley
Bayode, Olatunde Tobias
Hart, Charles Joseph John
Legzdins, Adam Richard
Lennon, Aaron
McMahon, George James
N'Guessan, Christian Dashiell
Ogunby, Henri William
Senior, Joel Toby
Wilson, Scott John
Younger, Oliver

Chelsea
Borges Da Silva, Willian (Contract extension)
Grant, Josh
Lavinier, Marcel
Nartey, Richard Nicos Tettey
Rodriguez Ledesma, Pedro Eliezer (Contract extension)

Crystal Palace
Eyenga Lokilo, Jason
Flanagan, Kian
Henry, Dion-Curtis
Mensah, Jacob Kwabena
Tupper, Joe Daniel

Everton
Adedoyin, Korede Yemi
Denny, Alexander
Feeney, Morgan
Foulds, Matthew Colin
Garbutt, Luke Samuel
Mampala, Manasse
Martina, Rhu-Endly Aurelio Jean-Carlo
Niasse, Baye Oumar
Phillips, Kieran James (Contract extension)
Stekelenburg, Maarten (Contract extension)

Leicester City
Bolkiah, Faiq Jefri
Davies, Rhys Paul Richard
Elewa-Ikpakwu, Edward
Johansson, Viktor Tobias
King, Andrew (Contract extension)
Kranthove, Justen Shelden
Loft, Ryan
Mendy, Nampalys (Contract extension)
Tee, Conor
Thomas, George Stanley

Liverpool
Atherton, Daniel
Christie-Davies, Isaac David
Clyne, Nathaniel Edwin
George, Shamal
Lallana, Adam David (Contract extension)
Lonergan, Andrew Michael (Contract extension)
McKenzie-Lyle, Kai
Walls, Jack

Manchester City
Agyiri, Ernest
Bravo Munoz, Claudio Andres (Contract extension)
Jimenez Silva, David Josue (Contract extension)
Scott, Thomas Henry

Manchester United
Barlow, Aidan Will
Borthwick-Jackson, Cameron Jake
Fojticek, Alex
Hamilton, Ethan Billy
McGhee, Dion Alex
Mitchell, Demetri Kareem
O'Hara, Kieran Michael
Tanner, George

Newcastle United
Charman, Luke
Colback, Jack Raymond
Elliot, Robert
Fernandez Satue, Victor
Gibson, Liam Steven
Harker, Nathan
Sterry, Jamie Michael

Norwich City
Enigbokan-Bloomfield, Mason Ozail
Hayes, Nicholas Michael
Jaiyesimi, Diallang
Johnson, William
Mourgos, Savvas
Odusina, Oluwarotimi Mark
Payne, Alfred Edward
Scully, Thomas

Sheffield United
Andall-Gibbons, Ta'Shae Ruebin Jonathan
Clarke, Leon Marvin (Contract extension)
Duffy, Mark James
Ferguson, Keenan Tyrone Glendon
Freeman, Kieron Samuel (Contract extension)
Greaves, Oliver James
Gribbin, Callum Anthony
Heneghan, Benjamin John
Holmes, Ricky Lee
Jagielka, Philip Nikodem (Contract extension)
Leak-Blunt, Connor Jay (Contract extension)
Ompreon, Samuel
Rodwell, Jack Christian (Contract extension)
Sheppeard, Harry
Thomas, Nathan
York, Reece Cable
Young, Jake Alan

Southampton
Alves Soares, Cedric Ricardo (Contract extension)
Barnes, Marcus Thomas
Cull, Alexander
Hale, Harlem
Kozak, Simon
Norton, Christian Anthony
O'Driscoll, Aaron
Rose, Jack Joseph
Yoshida, Maya

Tottenham Hotspur
Clarke, Rayan Romario (Contract extension)
Dinzeyi, Jonathan Toko Lema (Contract extension)
Hinds, Tariq Devontae Aaron
Patterson, Phoenix MacLaren (Contract extension)
Statham, Maxwell Louis (Contract extension)
Vertonghen, Jan (Contract extension)
Vorm, Michel Armand (Contract extension)

Watford
Balogun, Jamal Clinton Titilayo
Bennetts, Jayden Ugonna
Cholevas, Chose Loint (Contract extension)
Da Silva Gomes, Heurelho (Contract extension)
Folivi, Michael Kwaku
Gordon, Lewis
Green, Cameron Oliver
Hinds, Kaylen Miles
Jakubiak, Alexander Louis
Mariappa, Adrian Joseph (Contract extension)
Whelan, Callum Tyler (Contract extension)

West Ham United
El Mhassani, Anouar
Hannam, Reece Phillip Peter
Sanchez Moreno, Carlos Alberto
Watson, Louie Shaun
Zabaleta Girod, Pablo Javier

Wolverhampton Wanderers
Graham, Jordan
Johnson, Connor William
Ofosu-Ayeh, Phil
Thompson, Callum Niall
Yang, Ming-Yang

Championship

Barnsley

Kenny Dougall, Dani Pinillos, Samuel Radlinger, Mamadou Thiam, Jordan Barnett, Jared Bird, Tommy Willard, Sam Fielding, Harry Gagen, Jake Greatorex, Keziah Martin, Chris Sang, Alex Wollerton, Mike Bahre, Jordan Green, Cameron McGeehan, Alex Mowatt, Marcel Ritzmaier, Michael Sollbauer, Cauley Woodrow

Birmingham City

David Stockdale, Cheick Keita

Cardiff City

Jazz Richards, Omar Bogle, Matthew Connolly

Charlton Athletic

Lyle Taylor, Chris Solly

Derby County

Ikechi Anya, Tom Huddlestone

Huddersfield Town

Danny Simpson

Hull City

Eric Lichaj, Jackson Irvine, Stephen Kingsley, Marcus Maddison

Middlesbrough

Daniel Ayala

Preston North End

Tom Clarke, Connor Simpson, Jack Armer, Kevin O’Connor, Michael Crowe

QPR

Grant Hall

Sheffield Wednesday

Morgan Fox, Steven Fletcher, Fernando Forestieri, Sam Hutchinson, Sam Winnall

West Brom

Ali Al-Habsi, Kane Wilson, Jack Fitzwater

On 30/01/2020 at 21:24, Swanson said:

What happend to @RovingRover

I remember he was here during the summerwindow and claimed to have some inside info. He mentioned that german defender Anton that Mowbray wanted. He has gone quiet since then.

I'm still here.

Became a father back in August moving in with my partner and football rather went on the back-burner.

Bad.
Focus of last seasons failings was defence.
We ended the transfer window letting five 1st team defenders go and only bringing in two.

Including Harrison Reed, we had three 1st team midfielders depart, and we had two 1st team midfielders brought in.

Our front-line saw one forward in, and one forward out.

In terms of depth and quality. We failed on both counts in my opinion.

1 hour ago, Tom Stinny said:

Where are you going to get the extra £60k-£80k per week wages for those guys and that's being kind. 

Summer Ins:

Stewart Downing

Bradley Johnson

Sam Gallagher

Christian Walton

Tosin Adarabioyo

Greg Cunningham

X 6

Summer Outs:

Craig Conway

Paul Downing

Jack Rodwell

Ben Gladwin

David Raya

Joe Nuttall

Scott Wharton

Tyler Magloire

Charlie Mulgrew

X 9

Wages could be offset in January from players being loaned out. On the otherhand, it could also be offset by not being relegated! ?

As I just said in the Mowbray Out topic. Starting to think we should go back to a 442/4411 formation and play players in the roles they are accustomed to.

To have enough players to make this happen and be comfortable for the rest of the season. We could sign the following now.

• Jordan Archer (GK)
• Danny Simpson (RB)
• Ashley Williams (CB)
• Lazar Marković (LM)

These players signed on contracts until the end of the season can do so with the understanding that if they perform they will get new lengthy contracts.

When January comes around we can look to move out Jayson Leutwiler, Sam Hart, Matthew Platt, Richie Smallwood and Dominic Samuel on loan or others who aren't cutting it or not getting a 1st team look-in.

1 hour ago, bazza said:

Who is Chris Houghton?

To be fair. I had this earlier. If you type out Chris Hughton on a mobile. Auto-correct rather bizarrely adds a 'o'.

Question for all on here.
Do people believe that the formation changes over the last few seasons have worked?

When Mowbray came in, he kept our basic shape and gave the team better direction.
Now he is changing the shape. tactics and method of the team for a second time in two season's and like last season it didn't work.

Mowbray's attempt to change the player positions for me has been bizarre and bordering on a bonkers waste of talent.

Personally think we should go back to a 442/4411 formation and play players in the roles they are accustomed to.

This is what I would do if the Rovers manager at present:

Goalkeepers:

Christian Walton

Jayson Leutwiler

Andy Fisher

Jordan Archer (bring in on a contract until the end of the season)

Right back:

Ryan Nyambe

Danny Simpson (bring in on a contract until the end of the season)

Left back:

Greg Cunningham (start ahead of Bell)

Amari'i Bell

Sam Hart

Centre back:

Derrick Williams

Tosin Adarabioyo

Darragh Lenihan

Ashley Williams (bring in on a contract until the end of the season)

Joe Grayson

Matthew Platt

Right midfield:

Harry Chapman

Elliott Bennett

Left midfield:

Stuart Downing

Lazar Marković (bring in on a contract until the end of the season)

Central attacking midfielder:

Joe Rothwell

Bradley Dack

Central defensive midfielder/central defender:

Bradley Johnson

Richie Smallwood

Jacob Davenport

Lewis Travis

Corry Evans

Joe Rankin-Costello

John Buckley

Forwards (who should ONLY be played as FORWARDS):

Adam Armstrong

Sam Gallagher

Danny Graham

Dominic Samuel

Ben Brereton

 

Those players signed on contracts until the end of the season can do so with the understanding that if they perform they will get new lengthy contracts.

When January comes around we can look to move out Jayson Leutwiler, Sam Hart, Matthew Platt, Richie Smallwood and Dominic Samuel on loan.

Just now, Roboftherovers82 said:

Who is available on a free for CB we definitely need one more as cover 

Ashley Williams

Younès Kaboul

Ondrej Mazuch

Joel Lynch

Danzell Gravenberch

Jonas Olsson

Will Packwood

Jonathan Spector

Gareth McAuley

Greg Halford

Delphin Tshiembe

Matthew Kilgallon

Anton Ferdinand

4 goals conceded in 2 games = Goalkeeper/defence isn't the problem

Had the minority of possession and failed to create clear-cut chances = Midfield isn't a problem

0 shots on target, whilst four forwards were on the pitch = Everything's fine!

Mowbray:

Quote

"Generally the game-plan worked well"

 ?

Just now, toogs said:

Ooooh, is he available?

He was sacked by Brighton earlier this summer.