3 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I’ve now found this in the Venky London accounts (to June ‘22)

Note 26 seems to confirm the profit from disposal of fixed assets relates to the training ground.

It appears they received the monies rather than BRFC - I’m not sure how that helped us with FFP…

 

Those accounts are the consolidated accounts of the VLL group which include the football club.

6 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Doesn’t the below suggest circa £11 million has definitely been received by the club - and the ‘final payment’ of circa £6 million should have been received by June?

Yes, that looks right.

29 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

But Venkateshwara London Ltd is the company that owns the freehold for the STC.

Personally I find this all quite worrying. It seems like a plan "at large"

The reason that the directors of Crossbaron all have so many ltd companies is because they will create a new company for each development they do. This protects their assets. If they decide to build on Brockhall they would most likely create a "Brockhall Developments Ltd" or whatever. It is very common in construction development

It seems for all the world this is a plan to lose the training centre. The law of the land says that if we don't pay Crossbaron they will own the STC. They will then be able to do whatever they want with it. The truth is that they won't care as much about public opinion as an owner of a football club might

I honestly feel like this is the second step in the direction of stripping the STC as an asset from Venkys and ultimately Blackburn Rovers Football Club. The first was selling the training ground, for which we have not yet received a penny but have paid rent

How do you know we haven't received a penny for the sale of the training ground ?

8 minutes ago, rigger said:

Michael Caine would be to old to play center-back.

He was pretty good in Escape To Victory.

1 hour ago, Andy said:

We have to follow up the QPR away win with another 3 points.

Wouldn't change the defence, looks like Hill can make RB his own.
Possibly Brittain in at LB.

If we have no fit striker again, I'd push Szmodics into the false 9 again and play Wharton a bit further up the pitch.

JRC and Tronstad playing deeper.

Who would you drop for Wharton ?

Whilst QPR were absolutely woeful still a very good day. I was particularly pleased to see a number of Broughton's recent signings do so well - these new signings do need a reasonable bit of time to show what they can do.

8 hours ago, R0verb0y said:

Sorry, @Mashed Potatoes; I deliberately didn't quote a figure in the post to which you replied as above.

So I don't know how you can reply like that.🤔

I thought you quoted 8mill ?

Just now, Hasta said:

Our assets just walk out of the door for nothing. Maybe sack the person who has overseen that happen over the last few years.

Almost certainly that will have been the decision of the owners.

3 minutes ago, R0verb0y said:

Sorry this is so apparently late; I'm only just feeling strong enough to read the Board.

Just wanted to offer two possible answers to @Blow-in 's rhetorical question:

i) Not very much; ii) But more than our owners are, apparently prepared to invest.

They are putting in a fair bit more than that every year.

21 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Can see JDT walking.

Where to ?

1 minute ago, Boroblue said:

Yeah only because the teams above them failed spectacularly. Further I don’t see why you feel the need for the Mowbray love in. Let’s wait and see they got lucky.

It was you who raised the Mowbray issue. I simply stated the facts.

Just now, Boroblue said:

Well from experience we know that’s not were  they will finish 

They did last season.

2 minutes ago, ossyian said:

Maybe you can learn by watching the Ryder Cup?

Learn what ? How to scream 4 letter words in a car park ?

Just now, Mercer said:

Watch the Ryder Cup highlights, closing speeches and presentations - should give you a clue.

 

Really ?!? 

Some of those lads in the Ryder Cup have just played up to five four hour matches in the space of three days with huge physical and mental demands.

The highlights appeared to be Mcilroy launching in to a 4 letter word tirade on a caddy in the car park, Cantlay protesting over not getting paid for representing his country and Koepka not giving a damn.

8 minutes ago, Mercer said:

Been watching the Ryder Cup since 11.00 and thank goodness our magnificent golfers have given us cause for cheer.  Quite simply, golfers are a different class to footballers in all aspects.

Therefore, just catching up with events at Ewood and it sounds as though we were dreadful.  I have recorded the match and will watch if I'm unable to sleep in the early hours of tomorrow morning!

Make no mistake, the alarm bells are ringing loud and clearly.  Our club is at a crisis point and that is not alarmist.  I think there are so many deep rooted issues and problems that it is difficult to see how we move forward.

Don't be surprised if Neil Warnock gets a S.O.S. call before Christmas!

How are golfers in a different class to footballers in all aspects ?

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Armstrong was sold for 15m as reference again by Broughton this summer as a warped benchmark used by Venkys to reject bids for Brereton.

We bought him for 3m so if we made a profit of 4m then Newcastle had a 66% sell on relating to profit. No chance.

The sell on % was 40% so on a profit of £12m Newcastle took £4.8m leaving us with net proceeds of £10.2m

11 minutes ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

The LT has a different take on what Maguire was saying. Or maybe the LT is just correcting him. No idea if Maguire interpreted the accounts as below? 

 

According to the UK accounting standard FRS 102 consideration to post balance sheet events should be made up to the date the accounts are signed on behalf of the board by a director of the company,which was late July ( FRS102.32.2). Maguire ought to have known that.

9 minutes ago, superniko said:

Yeah I think with Edun too it was close to £5m anyway. We spent £800k on the keeper so would suggest what £4m on other signings (German striker + loan fees). That seems like a lot of money, but again it might not take account instalments, and it might be nothing to do with the summer transfer window anyway, although it does suggest it is.

The accounts were signed by the auditors on 31 July so I think the transfer activity in August is not covered by the statement about post balance sheet activity - which therefore excludes the departures of Kaminski and Phillips and the arrival of the new goalkeeper and striker.

30 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Time to bite the bullet lads , Whiteman's contract ends in summer, perfect fit and midfield partner for AW.  We are missing a bastard in the middle who will enforce.

Say what you want but I'm right   Absolutely sure we can get him.  

Preston haven't looked back since they benched him.

5 minutes ago, lraC said:

It’s such a massive own goal this.

Even something as simple as buy one get one free would have worked a treat here. Maybe we can’t offer  cheap tickets for the Leicester game, but what about, buy a £10 ticket and we will offer free/reduced tickets to anyone buying one, for the next cup game we host at Ewood. 

I think discounts on prices for cup games require the agreement of the club we are playing in the cup.

2 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

Sorry, I should’ve been clearer on a few points…

The crowds in previous  rounds of around 6k were a driver behind the decision. It’s a figure that can be accommodated purely in the Jack Walker stand. The 2,000 is based on current sales which have evidently gone terribly as you can see if you go on the map to buy a ticket right now.

We highlighted how the decision will annoy those who always sit in the Blackburn End, and the influx of Blackburn Enders into the JW might annoy the regulars in there (although any influx looks unlikely). We certainly suggested that the decision to close the Blackburn End will likely be contributing to the dismal sales.

That's a lot clearer - thanks.

13 minutes ago, rigger said:

I think what Mashed Potatoes was trying to say, was that the low crowd must have been assumed, before the decission not to open the Blackburn end was made. So going on previous games, how was this assumption of a low crowd reached ?

Yes, that's right. 

10 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

We Are The Rovers met with Steve Waggott yesterday. Obviously the issue of closing the Blackburn End for the Cardiff game was high on the agenda.

Firstly we conveyed our disappointment with the decision and the strength of feeling within the fanbase.

The response was that uptake for the game was expected to be extremely low. At present it looks like a crowd of around 2,000 with less than 1,500 tickets sold. Whether this is a cause or a symptom of the closure of the Blackburn End is another question, but it’s pretty horrifying.

It’s a financial decision based on numbers. We asked if it would’ve been possible to house the visiting supporters in an area of the Jack Walker stand and open the Blackburn End instead of the Darwen End. This would’ve meant that a police presence would be required which would have had an additional cost higher than opening an extra stand.

There was an acknowledgement that the communication needed to be better around the whole decision.

 

Did anybody query why the anticipated attendance is so low ? The game against Walsall had an attendance of 6,173 and last season's game against Hartlepool had an attendance of 6,841.

26 minutes ago, arbitro said:

I really don't understand these wholesale changes in league matches from managers simply because they have three games in a week. If players are out of form or injured that is different but using fatigue or any other excuse is poor form in my view. Managers should be obligated to supporters to put out their strongest team in every game.

Managers will argue that the teams they're putting out are the strongest teams for that particular game, on the grounds that fatigue will reduce the output of the affected players.

2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

No, his previous injury proneness is obviously unfortunately a red flag. And fitness or specific injury, he will have spent the majority of the first quarter of the season unavailable which isnt great.

So "at least one poster" was one poster clearly talking rubbish, but that in turn seems to categorize anyone suggesting that he struggled as writing him off.

The comment - made within 15 minutes or so of his debut - was that he wasn't of the required standard, which seems to be writing him off.