1 hour ago, martonrover said:

A win, a defeat and a draw, (in a tough away game).

Not great, but not terrible either, and realistically about as good as can have been expected.

 

Just reading elsewhere, we've taken 4 points from the last 3 games, and 5 points from the previous 11 games, so definitely not terrible. 

Also nice to come off a derby game with something for a change. 

1 minute ago, tomphil said:

Lowe Mk2 headless chicken he really needs a season on loan somewhere to learn on the job, Jason suffered from being thrown in when he really wasn't ready for it.

I like Garretts commitment and tenacity but he's a liability in this side in this situation but of course it wouldn't matter if we hadn't signed yet another croc and his role was still just ten min cameos.

If you mean Fleck, he was sold a hospital pass and had to commit himself. If he'd limped off with a strain I'd tend to agree, but not in this case. 

Just listened to Atko on the way back, he said if Rovers play like that every week they'll be fine, and I agree with him. 

Not pretty, but we'd have taken a point before kick off. 

Surprised Millar was on the right, but glad he was, Hedges had a good game and kept him quiet. The obvious thing to do with Gallagher is extend his contract, get him signed up now. 

4 hours ago, Mercer said:

Awful full stop.

That man Broughton has much to be sorry for - I think his signings on the whole are minging,  SS clearly good, Hyam average and the rest a crock of the proverbial.  Indefensible.

Factor in the feck ups with O'Brien, Brierley and Macguire and there is no case whatsoever, IMO, for his defence.

Pears, Carter, Pickering, JRC, Dolan, Hedges and Gallagher are still cast iron first team choices when fit, and no doubt Buckley or Garrett will join that list over the remainder of the season. That's without having Travis here(another fiasco). 

We're still massively dependent on the players who were already here, I dread to think where we'd be if Broughton didn't have those foundations to rely on. 

6 hours ago, Upside Down said:

JDT inherited a squad that finished 8th.

That squad then had some key players leave, particularly in midfield. 

He then had a major transfer sabotaged mid season. 

He managed to get us to 7th only missing out on goal difference. 

That weakened squad was then weakened even further before the start of the new season.

January came and our captain was loaned out and our best player sold and yet another big transfer was sabotaged. 

And John Eustace has now inherited whatever remains from that.

It finished 7th last season, only Hyam made a difference, the rest were already here. The decline of the squad since has been staggering. 

I dread to think where we'd be if Broughton hadn't taken over on such a sound footing, we all know his hands are tied to a degree, but his recruitment has been sadly lacking despite a large increase in the recruitment staff. 

Tomasson obviously has questions to answer on how this season has gone, but virtually all the blame is down to the recruitment. 

18 minutes ago, alcd said:

Was lucky not to get two yellows. Always looks like a sending off waiting to happen. Alot of wayward passing too. 

To be fair, the yellow he did get was all down to Hyam, Garrett didn't have much option other than to take the booking. 

29 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said:

Still gutted about JDT leaving and after yesterday feel like we've lost our identity..   Always positive, always playing the right way..  Hampered massively by injuries, inheriting a depleted squad from Mogga before having the remaining jewels sold off from under him.. I can't get behind this shit,  it's grim, club feels like a hollowed out shell.   Eustace has only been here a few days and we've reverted to I don't know what..   Dark days!

He inherited a squad which finished 7th, it's the subsequent transfer dealings (or lack of) which has let us down. 

It was the same 11 which hammered Stoke first half but fell away 2nd half. No lack of ability at 3-0.

As I say, I'll give them the benefit. 

I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for last night. I don't blame Eustace for fielding an unchanged team, but with Mcfadzean, Dolan, Hedges, Gallagher and Costello all having returned to action recently, maybe it caught up a bit. They closed down well early on last night, but it soon faded. 

Thinking back to Saturday, we were hanging on a bit second half, thankfully Pears saved the pen. Maybe they were running out of steam even in the second half against Stoke. I'll cut them a bit of slack and hope it was more about fitness,although it was pretty dire. 

34 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

Looks like tickets are now on sale towards the end blocks… they certainly weren’t close to them a few days ago!

Got tickets in block Q yesterday afternoon. 

7 hours ago, Upside Down said:

I mentioned this earlier.

For Eustace it's a free hit.

He does well it's against the odds.

He does shit then what can you expect, this place is an absolute shit show.

Good career move for him really.

Obviously I hope he does well and am fully behind him.

If we can come out of the Brum game unscathed, he'll have a real chance to endear himself to the faithful, we do need a Derby win. 

32 minutes ago, goozburger said:

One of Brittain's first touches for Rovers was a superb deep cross which Dack scored from. Knew there and then it was one of his strengths. Not since used. Until today. And twice it came good. 🤔

I've doubted Brittain for quite a while, but  two crosses and two goals, the first one was as good as you'll see

27 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

* with two buttons and a bottle top. 

There are enough of them, you'd think they would know between them how to tell the time and which button to press. 

On Eustace, good luck to him, he just has to look at the second goal we conceded against QPR to know where to start. It was truly pathetic. 

16 minutes ago, Gav said:

Why did his style of play suit us last season and not this?

Do you not think a crippling injury list and zero budget has played a major part in our failings this season? Or how about not replacing key players that have left over the past few years? 

Some of the football in the past 2yrs, at times, is the best I've seen in over 20yrs watching us. Could he have adapted his style to the usual mundane shite seen week in week out in Championship? Maybe, did I want him to, nope.

 

Exactly as I see it, some of the football and goals under Tomasson was brilliant. He really got a tune out of the players he inherited. 

But that's been the problem, as soon as Broughton and his extensive new recruitment team had to actually recruit, the wheels have fallen off. 

22 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

There’s always been an element of the fanbase like that. You used to hear it all the time in the PL days, ‘where were all these in the 80s?, ‘proper fans back then’, ‘spoilt these days’ etc.

Happy to see the club small, very strange outlook on life.

There was someone on this thread claiming that the crowd against QPR was less than announced,must be related. 

2 hours ago, Ewood Ace said:

He was brought in first of all to keep us up and he failed. So he certainly wasn't a good appointment in that respect. 

Have you noticed the massive cut in budget? Would you care to compare what Mowbray spent on players he wanted to what JDT has had spent for him by that clown Broughton?

JDT finished higher in 1 season here than Mowbray did in 6 despite having an inferior budget and not being able to bring in his own players. JDT also inherited a squad that had just lost it's player of the season and captain from the previous season.

But that's the whole point, only Hyam made an impact last season, to a much lesser degree Szmodics. Other than that, he inherited a squad which he took to 7th,some say he overachieved with that position, others say the opposite. 

I'm not so much comparing how they both did, but the situation they've left the club in. We'd all now take 7th bottom. 

You're making it a Mowbray v Tomasson thing, but Mowbray's situation was largely of his own making, Tomasson has been reliant on The Goonies. He's been badly let down, which is a shame because there's a good bloke there. 

It's just a good job that the club was as stable as it was, because Broughton and Co look to have taken us back 3 or 4 years. They've actually employed about 10 more people and made it worse. 

15 minutes ago, booth said:

Let's not forget the year before that, 15th.

Last season we lost a bunch of important members of that squad in 8th place, unreplaced.

And this season we lost a key member of that 7th place finish, unreplaced. Along with bags of experience in the squad, unreplaced. And just lost another one, unreplaced.

When you look at the full story it's unsurprising we've fallen off a cliff.

I wouldn't dispute any of that, and some of the football under Tomasson has been the best in a decade,especially earlier this season. 

The trouble with Mowbray, with the club as it is, it was always very much a case of careful what you wish for. 

It's this insistence that him leaving was the best for the club, when in hindsight it's looking like a right dog's dinner, we can't even get paperwork right. 

Incidentally, we never seem to cock up when it comes to selling, especially for £22 million. 

2 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

There was damage done but it was far from mission impossible we were 3 points from safety with 15 game to play. Plenty of club have been in that position before and stayed up.

This has to be satire? Surely?

He left a squad which finished 8th then 7th, where are we now less than 12 months later? 

My God, we have fallen off a cliff. 

8 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

Mowbray took us down to League 1 and never finished as high in 6 seasons as JDT did in 1. That despite him having a lot more funds at his disposal.

Mowbray's points averaged over the season would have had us in 8th.The damage, as well you know, was already done. 

Said at the time he should have been given another 2 years, just as a safe pair of hands. We finished 7th last season with virtually all the players Mowbray left, except for Hyam and maybe Szmodics towards the end of the season. 

The dismantling of his good work has been startling. 

15 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Because a lot can be said without saying anything at all.

Ronan Keating has rung me, he said if you must quote him, at least get the words right.

31 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

The protests are designed to generate interest and attention to our situation.

We need to generate as much attention and negative press on the Rao family as possible.

The way we get at them is by smashing their reputation to pieces and letting everyone know that they are a bunch of incompetent morons.

There's a lot you can do without actually protesting. Just keep reinforcing the facts. The stone cold inarguable facts.

Here is my problem with any protest. Let's say that it achieves the objectives you've stated, the protests smash their reputation to pieces and everyone thinks they're a bunch of incompetent morons. Would you say that it aids the club in reaching an amicable separation, given the debt involved?

I'm with Mr T on this one, to say it's a delicate situation is an understatement.

11 hours ago, 47er said:

If Venkys are to insist on getting back the £200m+ that they have spent we are doomed  to have them as owners till the last light is switched off. But if they recognise reality then there will be many suitors---this is one of the most famous Clubs in the world. There is real prestige to be had in rescuing it and returning it to its former glory.

OH---and the fans will come flocking back.

Absolutely, it isn't so much if and when they leave, but how they leave.

30 minutes ago, scotchrover said:

From my perspective, rather than laughing at these fans (some of which are completely barmy, admittedly), we need to try and educate them, if we’re going to get rid of the clowns running the club.

It’s vital, that in times like this, we’re a unified voice, to be as effective as possible. 

 

Could you try to sound a bit more condescending next time.