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9 hours ago, BRFC. said:

Remember it’s 3 losses in 4… Ismael doesn’t count the cup games 

As I thought, it's turning into another Stokegate. 

3 minutes ago, BRFC. said:

It it was us (if we are honest) we’d love it, Eustace has exploited them and took a good player and signed players who have done well for him.
 

If we raided Watford and took players who did well for Ismael would they call him a snake and bring inflatable snakes to ewood?

Probably not, they've had 17 managers since 

6 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

He's had 16 games.

Not four games.

Neither the twelve games last season nor the four games this have been impressive.

They've been really poor.

Really poor last week ? 

17 minutes ago, roverblue said:

Hedges set the standard for effort and hunger today, the lad chased down everything and drove forward every time he had the ball. Shame none of the others followed his example!

Thought he was just pipped by Tronstad to be honest, who was absolutely everywhere. 

20 minutes ago, Hasta said:

So if Travis pulls him first he should give a penalty as that occurs before the Alebiosu incident. Regardless Alebiosu should still have been stronger and got a decent connection on it. And the defenders in front should never have let it bounce over their heads. 
 

But no it’s not the players fault we’ve lost 4 in 5. It’s those bloody referees every time. 

I'm not one to blame refs,don't think I've commented on one all season till now, but at the time I saw that one and seeing it back just confirmed what a poor decision it was having directly led to a goal. 

1 minute ago, Hasta said:

Probably watching Travis’s pulling their goal scorer for about 5 seconds whilst the ball was in flight.

Maybe so, but it doesn't make the Alebiosu decision any less ridiculous, 2 wrongs n all that. 

48 minutes ago, Hasta said:

We were in many games when we got relegated in 1999.  But small margins cost us. We didn’t lose any of the first four games by more than a goal then. It’s rare a team gets relegated that aren’t “in” games unless they are really, really shit. It’s fine margins

This season it is individual moments of a lack of quality costing us. Not clearing that long throw at West Brom. De Neve getting skinned and then Tavares delivering a crap corner against Brum. McLaughlin and Kargbo today. 

I know you’re incredibly blinkered on refs, but the only real one against us I feel is the penalty at West Brom. Everything other major decision I’ve agreed with.

 

Ironically, it was that non clearance at West Brom which was the worst decision of them all.

The ref shouldn't get another game after missing the foul on Alebiosu. Makes me wonder what he was actually watching. Terrible officiating. 

46 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:

There won’t be now 😉

😂 I actually always turn into Herbert Street 

1 minute ago, DackDackGoose said:

I think getting 1m each for Buckley, JRC and Leonard is good business, none of them looked like being very useful or pushing on (except JRC when not injured) hope they all go on to do well though.

Massive gamble of a window but I'm weirdly excited to see how these guys do. I think the new Japanese winger and Gudjohnson if it goes through could be good signings.

Hope we utilise loan spots well, maybe some experience in the league ie Baker last year.

Just one loan, but a good un, would be perfect. 

Always street parking where we park around Wilson Street BB24AR

10 minute  walk 

9 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Of course I realised Leonard was part of the conversation.

Rev says it’s unfair that a poster is saying about Leonard being “Clearly not being able to cope with the Championship” as though the posters have witnessed that as fact whilst he has been a Rovers player. Revs argument is you can’t say he clearly isn’t as he hasn’t started that many games.

I’ve not really seen anyone saying that definite about the new signings (clearly not good enough). Just opinions on whether they will be a success based on their track records/ career paths at other clubs. There’s a difference.  

FWIW I’m not too fussed about offloading him if a replacement is incoming, and in ever thought we’d get a mill for him.

It was a flippant comment meant as a joke, in support of Leonard. No more, no less. That's why I said you didn't understand the conversation. 

It won't be the last comment to snowball out of all recognition but there you go. We haven't even got to the end of the window yet. 

27 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Is that quote writing players off or just an observation? If it was:

"He is going to be shit and I wont even give him the chance to prove himself considering he was relegated." 

Then maybe.

I didn't realise we had to be so literal, but I'll keep that one in the back pocket. 

19 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Nope

You have, go back to my reply to Rev a couple of pages back about Leonard.

You didn't even realise Leonard was part of the conversation. You jumped in late and got it completely wrong. 

41 minutes ago, aletheia said:

It isn't ? So what are we judging players on then?

You've misunderstood the conversation . 

11 minutes ago, K-Hod said:

I don’t think this is true at all.

But it is another case of words and phrases being re defined to suit arguments, also see the word ‘abuse

"Signing players who've been relegated"

How many times did they get written off? You mustnt have been reading at the beginning of the window.

And what the "abuse" comment is about I've no idea 

27 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Yes.

The club sign players. People form an opinion on whether you think they will be good signings (Morishita) or bad (De Neve). Whether they are correct or incorrect will be judged after a period of time after they’ve settled in and played (or not) for the club.

Some people weirdly think that players should be perceived as being “good” until proven otherwise. And if people say they aren’t good signings they are ‘writing them off’, like it’s some unfair crime.

You've joined the conversation late and misunderstood what was being said. 

20 minutes ago, aletheia said:

We'll get back to you in May. 😉

How they do isn't really the point is it? 

4 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Impressive if you can deduce that when he's never been given a chance.

Most of this summer's signings were written off before they'd even flown in . 

2 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

If you put your finger where the like button used to be you can still react to stuff I've now found!

Ta, get you all technical. 

2 hours ago, Crimpshrine said:

How can selling decent Championship players with vast experience and replacing them with cheaper, unproven players be good news  ? It is cost cutting which could turn out to be false economy once all the saleable playing assets are gone.

The policy is driven by Pasha wanting to save money for his employers not by any ambition to build a decent team.

You've either misunderstood or you're deliberately being awkward. How many players have we lost for nothing? If a player isn't going to sign ,or the manager doesn't want him, then he should be sold if there's a decent fee involved.

As opposed to losing them for nothing, which has been the way for some time.

If bringing £6/7 million in rather than nothing isn't good news, you'll need to explain. 

3 hours ago, BRFC. said:

If you genuinely believe the club is going into a good direction you’re a fool, unless the venkys have all of a sudden decided to sell the club that is. It is more worrying they’re unable to tie down key players for me

Not disputing the contract bit ,but if the player isn't signing, then sell them.

22 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Just a bit, last Friday it was all doom and gloom.

Rudy and Suhail were the devils' incarnate.

One really good win and one promising looking signing on the right wing later and all of a sudden Travis was always crap and this new strategy might actually be the way to go etc. etc. And the plastic snake manufacturers will no doubt have a beano in November.

I mean, we dont even know if Travis's replacement, Baradji, is fit , or out for a lengthy period and if the latter, how long for.

The fickleness of the football fan. It works both ways.

Fickle? You're not kidding, he's gone from captain of the rubber dinghy men to irreplaceable. 

Not a phrase I've ever used, but hasn't Travis been one of the "rubber dinghy men" for the past few seasons? In fact captain of the rubber dinghy.

it's football, it happens, it's totally detached from "real" life.

Bullying? Come on, get a grip,it's as cut throat as it gets.

The days of pinning colours to the mast for any player are well gone. I'll wish him well, thank him for his efforts and move on, probably won't even give him a second thought when we kick off on Saturday.

The good news here is that the club might actually be starting to work more "normally". Cashing in on both Britain and Travis who wouldn't sign contracts is a welcome change of direction. 

40 minutes ago, norwichblue said:

Makes me feel a bit ill seeing him in that shirt.

All the best to him, but not Derby.

He’s going to have the game of his life back at Ewood for the 150th celebration game isn’t he.

Sad to see him go, great player who always put 100% in for the badge.

Let’s hope Barajdi is just as good if not better.

Travis v Tronstad be weird, and that's just for us watching. 

35 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Is he winning matches? His record isnt the best and its 1 win 3 losses so far this season.

Without wanting to turn it into another Stokegate, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't have included the Bradford game if we'd won. 

Changed how many, 8? Including a complete back 5 with an 18 year old keeper . Come on, keep it real.