That's a very good WBA side on paper. Be a good test of how good we are.

Grants playing according to the LT

Grant is playing for them. Big, strong quick forward. Massive test for Phillips.

Maybe begs the question why SW was played mid-week.

I've learned a valuable lesson in self-moderation today.

Best case scenario: he has a stormer, keeps the shirt, signs the contract on the back of that....then gets dropped for not signing it in the first place😉

I think Rovers will have first dibs.

All you have left is semantics. Pitiful.

Agreed in general, but I'm not sure he had a choice.

WBA had a lucky escape.

ok

No Scotty Wharton 🤔

Liverpool aren't forcing us to sign him.

So after all that we're back to where we started. At least we're in agreement that Klopp isn't picking our team.

Yes you can drop him. The penalty is financial. It's not that difficult a concept. We literally did the same with Poveda.

He can drop him. We just may have to pay a bigger portion of his wages. You seem to have invented the part where he can't be dropped. It's a bit silly to do that.

They aren't picking the team. They are just stipulating we'll incur financial penalties if we don't play their player an agreed amount of times. It's a bit silly to say they are holding us to ransom.

So we have done deals like this before. That clears that up.

As long as they help us deliver results then it's all good. At least they'll have good engines for our high-pressing intensity malarkey.

SW's injury record is already a concern. Ayala's always has been. Carter is unproven in a back 4 at this level and currently injured. Philips is 17 and we don't even know if he wants to be here. We've already been priced out of two CB's. We're quite literally desperate. If we can get a proven Championship performer on loan but we have to pay a little bit more in loan fees/wages then so be it.

I think this is what Nixon is saying is the proposed deal. Seems fair enough if true. Not quite the same as 'being held to ransom' or similar hysterics.

Idealistic and naïve. And a bit straw-man. Nobody is being held to ransom. Liverpool are just protecting their asset. And we don't even know if it's true anyway. And you've ignored the part about us being desperate. Your 'principled' stance (lol) won't mean a lot if we miss out on promotion because we ran out of fit CB's.

Not really. He was a regular at PNE for 18 months. They could just send him back there. Same division, same exposure and experience. Or another Championship club like Burnley. We're desperate for CB's. We've missed out on at least two and all our current ones are either injury-prone or injured. We're definitely the ones being done a favour here.

Are we offering him guaranteed game time? A half-price season ticket for life? Free Leavers pies for life? Anyone subscribe to the Bard of Badenoch?