Don't you know you never beat Wales, you just score more points than them.

On another topic - what's gone wrong with the scrums in Union ? Every second scrum is a mystery penalty. The Union guys used to laugh at Rugby League scrums but at least they're not a shambles. In the old days the ball went in straight, the hookers struck, the ball moved swiftly out to the back of the scrum and away you went. That very rarely happens now. All the teams seem to feed their own hooker and nothing happens.

We still haven't learnt have we ? We were cruising, only one team in it for 60 minutes. Wales were nowhere. Then we self destruct. Discipline and decision making went out the window again along with our defence at the end. We won OK but 3 tries to 1 down feels like a defeat. Another 5 minutes and we would have lost that game.

If I were them I'd take the hit this season. I know they're battling hard to stay up but it's starting to look like they will struggle to beat the drop. Better to take the deduction now and start afresh next season.

Rotherham were at home tonight Tom.

We need to be looking at 50 pts.

I think you're correct. At the start of the season I was convinced we'd had it and I was convinced the Dingles would win both games comfortably. If things hadn't have changed I think I may have been right.

Interesting to hear about the upping of tempo and a more professional attitude at the club.

The 3 D's in Rugby win you games. Defence, Discipline, Decision making. At the moment we're good in the first one and not good in the other two. That needs to change.

Unless things really go pear shaped our much superior goal difference is worth a point.

Good win today. Our line defence is outstanding but we need to sort out our discipline. Too many soft penalties plus two in the sin bin, one off for the last 10 minutes. A better team than Ireland would made us pay for that.

We need 50 points to be relatively safe I think.

You have to get more bodies into the last third of the pitch to score more goals. Unless your work rate is up there with the best you can then get caught on the break. One of the reasons we haven't conceded many goals is until recently only Rhodes played in the last third. Lambert's job is to get more players getting forward without conceding goals.

We'd no chance of the play-offs at any point. Just look at the squad when Lambert came in. There may have been three teams worse than us at the start of the season but I'd be hard pressed to name them then.

If you can name any manager now that will be managing at the same club in ten years time you're a good'un Jim. If you can name one that will still be there in five years time it'll be quite an achievement these days.

Only seems like yesterday to me matey. I agree with that.

Ipswich Town under Alf Ramsey were promoted from the old Second Division in 1960-61 and won the old First Division the very next year. That was pretty remarkable.

I watched that as well Den. What a tremendous work ethic Leicester have. No lost causes there. Anybody wondering what's missing from Rhodes game ? Just watch Vardy.

I think the question that was posed and never answered by the " All our eggs in one basket " Rhodes cheerleaders was - "What happens if he gets injured ? " Still waiting for an answer to that one. Of course a cynic would argue that given his style of play he was pretty unlikely to get injured unless he dropped his wallet onto his foot.

What's all this talk of bans ? What would they be for ? Goading ? Could you define that for me please ? I thought we were all grown up's on here.

That's pretty clear then.

Stuart, who do you want to succeed tomorrow, Rhodes or Rovers ? I think we should be told.

Let's hope so. The kids seem to be on the up. A couple knocking on the door towards the end next season would be great.

I remember Donis playing against Ajax in the Champions League and running Winston Bogarde ragged. He looked a good player off that showing.

I'd have put my house on us being in the bottom six when the season started in August. I had a sneaking feeling we'd be going down also. We had nothing that a team needs to win enough games to stay up.