We'd no chance of the play-offs at any point. Just look at the squad when Lambert came in. There may have been three teams worse than us at the start of the season but I'd be hard pressed to name them then.

If you can name any manager now that will be managing at the same club in ten years time you're a good'un Jim. If you can name one that will still be there in five years time it'll be quite an achievement these days.

Only seems like yesterday to me matey. I agree with that.

Ipswich Town under Alf Ramsey were promoted from the old Second Division in 1960-61 and won the old First Division the very next year. That was pretty remarkable.

I watched that as well Den. What a tremendous work ethic Leicester have. No lost causes there. Anybody wondering what's missing from Rhodes game ? Just watch Vardy.

I think the question that was posed and never answered by the " All our eggs in one basket " Rhodes cheerleaders was - "What happens if he gets injured ? " Still waiting for an answer to that one. Of course a cynic would argue that given his style of play he was pretty unlikely to get injured unless he dropped his wallet onto his foot.

What's all this talk of bans ? What would they be for ? Goading ? Could you define that for me please ? I thought we were all grown up's on here.

That's pretty clear then.

Stuart, who do you want to succeed tomorrow, Rhodes or Rovers ? I think we should be told.

Let's hope so. The kids seem to be on the up. A couple knocking on the door towards the end next season would be great.

I remember Donis playing against Ajax in the Champions League and running Winston Bogarde ragged. He looked a good player off that showing.

I'd have put my house on us being in the bottom six when the season started in August. I had a sneaking feeling we'd be going down also. We had nothing that a team needs to win enough games to stay up.

My mum has a saying - " If the cap fits, wear it ".

This is starting to look like I have a down on the lad but I haven't. John O'Sullivan withdrawn last night after getting a yellow card for a retaliatory foul. Sounds like he's trying too hard.

Nah, he's finished.

Not really a game for kids. It's going to be a man's game, let's hope we can find a few.

Nah, we'd have batted it out no problem.

Is he drawing his pension yet ? The one thing Shebby got right.

The squad of players we started the season with was a squad that I thought would quite probably have been relegated. Nothing player wise has changed, they are still a collection of players devoid of everything you need to be a successful football team. We have a squad without balance and without any real leaders on the field, they play like boys in a mans game. I had hoped our new management team ( all very experienced football men ) would have had more of an impact by this point. Maybe I underestimated the task in hand. I remember feeling like this when Mark Hughes took over, for a month or two we were equally bad albeit at a much higher level. Then he brought some MEN in who were prepared to get stuck in, run furthest, and get more than their share of 50/50 balls, contested headers etc. Let's see what the window brings.

I remember Bryan Douglas , Bobby Craig and Joe Haverty playing up front for us. Dougie was the tallest at 5' 6", Craig was 5' 5" and " Little Joe " 5' 3". You could count on the fingers of one hand Rovers players who could have played prop for Hornets. John Bray would have been a good shout. Kevin Moran and Matt Woods had the heart for it .

He played up front with Beattie when Duff was on the left wing.

Thomas isn't the guy I'm thinking of. I remember Thomas scoring against Bolton on his Premier League debut. It was downhill after that. The lad I'm thinking of was called Cassin I think.

He's the left winger in my Rovers all time 11. Absolutely top class at both Club and International level. I first saw him play for the Youth Team and I wasn't massively impressed. James Beattie and a lad playing number 10 ( Graeme Cassin ? ) were much more impressive.

That's something to be grateful for then.

Not many on the Rochdale fans board are impressed with him. Some want him sent back to Rovers already.