Not sure if it's been mentioned, but some of the relegation odds are out. William Hill, SkyBet and Paddy Power, as far as I can see. The most generous (as in lucrative) odds offered are 6-1, which in a table of most generous odds puts as the 8th most likely team to be relegated. Sheff W are most likely at 1.62 to 1, and at the other end of the spectrum are Ipswich at 101 to 1. So whoever in this thread was saying we were 350 to 1 couldn't be more wrong. A glance around tells me more bookies than that are giving odds, like Betfred, offering 5.5 for us, but this is just what shows on Oddschecker. Looks like the bookies fancy us to struggle this season despite finishing 7th, and I'm sure most of us can see why. Personally I'm very confused at why everyone thinks Ipswich are most likely to win the league, but hey. I guess it's because of Leicester's likely points deduction and Southampton having such an awful season last year, making Ipswich theoretically the best of the three relegated...but personally I doubt they finish top 2.

Any of our players could get injured. That's what happens when you play football. Oh but we will lose the transfer income? That we have been told won't be reinvested? Yeh I don't give a shit.

It was completely bogus.

The point of playing him tomorrow is that if nobody makes an adequate bid, we will have to keep him and get him fit. It also signals to prospective buyers that we are willing to keep him if they don't pay enough, which helps get a proper price.

What point are you making? That's not a good thing. Nor does it impact what I was saying in my post at all.

Not because we released them. Because we wanted to keep them but failed to give a decent contract offer. We lost them to Derby.

More likely to be Harry Leonard than Harry Pickering.

We didn't release them. We lost them.

Hang on, that clause in the regulation is saying he will receive the higher of the points he is eligible for, not that he will receive both sets of points he is eligible for in table 2. So it isn't 12 plus 4, it's just 12. Am I missing something? Is the 12 for league quality and the 4 is for actual minutes played, so they're in two different tables?

They certainly don't seem to want the money back as things stand. However, if they got into financial trouble, or sold the club, I certainly don't believe they would treat it as though it doesn't exist. Otherwise, they'd have written it off, as Jack used to do (pretty sure Wilsden is indeed remembering that correctly). They absolutely won't get it all back (not unless by some miracle they turned us back into a steady Prem club maybe), but I bet they'd try to extract as much of it as possible. Maybe even leave some on the club's back if sold on, with loan repayments arranged.

Apologies, think I got mixed up with some other club. There's that much yo-yoing goes on from this league to the Championship, nearly everyone else seems to have done it at some point since we came down. They have however been in the playoffs twice since Venkys came, which we haven't done once since relegation.

Getting what they paid for us back would be child's play if they wrote off their debt to us. They could probably get double that if they were interested in entertaining bids. The money in the game has changed significantly. Crappy Derby County were bought for 33 million when in administration last year, but 55 million really as they also bought their stadium for 22 mill. There is a claim that Sheff W turned down 75 million dollars last month.

Hull and Sheff W haven't had a 15 year nightmare with little sign of ending. Hull have been in the Prem in that period. Yes, under different owners I believe, but that's the thing about awful owners, they usually burn out and leave. Ours stick around and the purgatory continues. Chances are, Hull and Sheff W will both get to the Prem again before we do, under new owners. Coventry used to be one of those cautionary tales of what could happen with other owners, look where they are now.

I'd say he usually comes off second best in most debates he has on here. Has his moments though. But if he argues with the poster you quoted, he's basically arguing with himself.

Start what? Almost every player gets more than almost every fan, usually far more. They are generously compensated, he's right. Maybe not relative to what they can get elsewhere, but as Championship footballers they have a standard of living most of us can only dream of, for doing a job we would all love to do even if it was for what we earn now.

I've been meaning to say myself that I found all the timings too coincidental, and that I suspect the club leaked the 'Brittain close to signing' rumour already knowing that there was strong interest from Boro and Derby and that a sale was likely. At a normal club, I'd be willing to believe we got unlucky, or that the story breaking made other clubs hasten their moves, but we aren't a normal club. Whilst I can't say it's definitely the case, I have to wonder whether Brittain was ever close to signing a deal or if they made it up knowing he won't be signing one and that they've got a replacement in ahead of time.

What bookie? Oddschecker isn't showing anybody has relegation odds yet.

You wouldn't have a specialist at hand for a condition you don't know exists yet.

If we do actually sign Baradji (dubious at this point) we very likely are paying a sizeable fee by our standards. Unlike the others, in excess of 2 mill probably is his going rate. Richer clubs have been sniffing previously.

Worst part is we are probably losing all of them.

The club have been crystal clear - selling players will not impact our transfer budget. This makes being a trading club impossible.

That is actually everything I need in order to judge him.

Just seen this in the LT article about the JRC sale: 'After becoming an integral part of the Rovers team under Jon Dahl Tomasson, Rankin-Costello has waned. Callum Brittain re-established himself as the first choice at right-back under John Eustace and has remained so under Ismael. Eustace did use the 25-year-old in central midfield, which looked a natural home, at the end of the 2023/24 season. However, the return of Lewis Travis and his partnership with Sondre Tronstad meant opportunities in the middle were limited.' Thought it was ironic that all those players getting in his way look fairly likely to leave now. Not that I'm saying we shouldn't have sold him, he was never going to be robust enough to make it in more than patches.

And we missed him massively during them.

Tavares could be a Buckley replacement, if he hasn't cost 2 mill, although he does seem to be a different sort of player. If he did cost a genuine 2 mill guaranteed I don't think that he'd only be a replacement for Buckley, who is just a squad player. I suppose it would be possible, just to strengthen our options there. JRC is more of a utility player, the new right back is very likely seen as his replacement. With Forshaw to cover any emergency needs. The new CM definitely means one of Trav or Tron going I'd expect. If we get him. We can't have two 2 mill plus mids, if they both cost that, as well as Trav and Tron, unless we are changing formation.