Mattyblue

‘Mowbray, sort it out!’ as an opening salvo, you’d imagine

Just now, Eddie said:

What a depressing statement. 

Sure is, says it all about his signings up top.

Just now, arbitro said:

The most annoying trait of Mowbray is one he does publicly and is quite degrading. He did it several times last night but on really stood out and my opinion of him dropped lower. In the first half Nyambe knocked an easy pass inside when he should clearly have gone forward. Mowbray, on the edge of his technical area stood for a few seconds with his hands on his shaking head. He then turned and walked back to the dug out still shaking his head with his hands in the same position. I just can't see how that helps a young player who doesn't seem to have great self belief. And the fact that Nyambe is still doing things like that after Mowbray has been coaching him for over two years says more about Mowbray than Nyambe in my book.

I saw Mowbray do this several times last night with Grayson too but not Brereton.

Indeed. Nyambe and Raya were the only ones at the back last season to get any public criticism, none of the ‘men’ who surely should be taking the flak were in the firing line.

Bell and Brereton have been largely woeful since they joined, but as they aren’t academy grads, but his purchases he avoids any public flogging of them  - obviously doesn’t want his judgement called into question.

The only signing he does go after in public is Rothwell.

I’ve no problem with people being ‘ITK’, indeed it’s good to get an insight into the inner workings of clubs. We’ve had a few on here, but none have been as patronising as our present resident.

BB was awful. No pace, no touch, no physicality, no aerial presence, missed a sitter.

I was hoping he’d show some promise against a team bottom of the 4th division, he didn’t. Think some of you are desperate to find anything that gives us hope he won’t be a massive flop, but it wasn’t on display last night.

Relegation was the best thing to happen to Mowbray. A lot of these Facebook fans now see us as ‘little old Rovers’ who are lucky to even be on the same pitch as a Derby or Middlesbrough.

If we’d have stayed up in 2017. Then had a couple of 15th placed finishes, he’d have been hounded out by the very same fans by now, ‘we’ll never go anywhere with this guy’ etc.

32 minutes ago, Harry The Bass said:

 

I just think if you’re going to make the assertion a players no experience in a role, it’s probably better to use facts as opposed to opinion.

I don’t think it’s as clear cut as Nyambe over Bennett personally either.

Facts are this is his first stint as a full back, as I said.

Just now, Harry The Bass said:

It’s funny because much of that thread is exactly the same argument - he obviously shows something to the managers who’ve picked him in the wider defensive positions.

He played a dozen games on loan for Bristol City 5 years ago, some of those very few matches as a wing back.

What on earth has that got to do with him playing badly at full back for us in 2019?

Just now, Harry The Bass said:

RWB and RB are similar? That’s quite stark relevance in my world MB

Not relevant as we don’t play with wingbacks, maybe he’d do a better job as one, who knows. The only evidence we have is that he’s a poor full back.

Just now, Harry The Bass said:

https://www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/173858-elliott-bennett-merged/

Some discussion about him leaving BCFC due being used as a RWB. Sounds nonsensical to me, probably just a better contract.

Does show he has been used more defensively on the right previously, and with a few years more experience - not unthinkable to suggest that’s his main position now with time against him.

So he played a few games as a wing back years ago? 

He probably would be better suited as a wingback but as we haven’t as yet played 3 at the back and he’s been playing as an actual full back, I don’t see the relevance?

Gate of 5,200 against Lincoln in the 2nd round last season (just under 4,000 Rovers fans that night).

Do well to get to that.

Not including checkatrade?

When I went to buy mine online on Sunday, think there’d only been about 20 sales in all of NO1.

Only thing stopping it being perhaps, would be if a fair few Oldham fans trapped up on the night.

Saturday’s game called off for Bury (the 4th).

Looking bleak...

Just now, Parsonblue said:

Players change position all the time - one of the best teams, possibly the best team, I've ever seen in blue and white was made up of players who were switched from one position to another. 

Quality footballers can adapt and adapt quickly. However Elliott Bennett is a rank average wide midfielder playing at right back for the first time in his career, with the wholly expected problems as a result.

Of course TM is free to play whoever he wants wherever he wants, however we are also free to say his decision making is becoming increasingly pig-headed to the detriment of the team we all passionately want to do well.

No it isn’t a top 6 side. 

However, a lot of that is down the wrong priorities - £12 million on two young forwards when we have one of the worst defences being the main one, another going into a season with two out and out senior centre halves (one who’s injury prone and is out already, the other a young loanee).

Don’t go to West Bromwich itself for pubs, stay in Birmingham city centre and jump on the tram that stops right outside The Hawthorns 

Just now, DeeCee said:

Should have 10 thousand on at that price, absolute bargain

 

Do well to get 10,000 at Leyland!

Just now, oldjamfan1 said:

The best teams have eleven captains on the park. Go through the Rovers premier league champions - even the wingers would have been fine captains. Same with the promotion sides of 1992 and 2001

Indeed. That’s why we are a million miles from promotion. 

Yes we had quality players in 2001, but the side was full of captains or ‘men’ as TM would put it.

Friedel, Bjornebye, Short, Berg, Hignett, Flitcroft, Hughes. Even the young lads like Dunn and Johnson had some balls about them.

Compare it to where we are now.

He obviously ‘runs the dressing room’ and I suppose with another one of the shop stewards gone he’ll need to keep the others onside.

Captain is a non-job in football. Make him Club president for all its worth, however it should not in anyway keep him in the side if his performances do not merit it.

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

So has it being confirmed that Bennett will be captain going forward and not just because Lenihan was injured? 

Confirmed 

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/rovers/news/17831629.rovers-confirm-new-captain-charlie-mulgrews-departure/

They’ll be paying £28 (Cat A), all games are priced up already. Any side expected to fetch c2000 and upwards will be A (or A+)

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2019/july/matchday-prices-2019-20/

£20 for West Brom.

Shame they’ll be paying £28 when they come here. This ‘reciprocal policy’ only seems to come into being when it is to rip off Leeds and Sheff Wed fans.

Chapman is playing for the U23s tonight, Christ knows when he’ll be with the first team again.

21 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

No good whining about Raya being sold he asked to leave end of! 

That was one of Mowbray’s tales over the summer, Another was that he needed to be sold to buy Gallagher.

Who knows what really went on.