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Just now, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

To be fair he had that rant about defenders not being able to defend.  

Named no names, apart from fellow academy grad Nyambe.

Good chance he did want to go after Mowbray hung him out to dry on more than one occasion post Christmas.

Something he never did to experienced defenders that were also dropping regular clangers.

That’s zero friendlies...

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/17787015.game-oldham-athletic-cancel-bolton-wanderers-friendly/

18 minutes ago, Neal said:

From what I saw yesterday... Yes. 

Has to be worth a look if no new LB is coming in.

No way Bell can be first choice in a team with any aspirations, just a poor player at this level and no signs of improvement from what I’ve seen.

5 minutes ago, unsall said:

Do you think so.

I’m going to say... yes.

Just now, BankEnd Rover said:

If we play the quality we have i honestly think we could challenge top 6. Our problem is our Manager really can't seem to start these players. This is his last chance for me to start well - if not then i'd want mowbray out by xmas.

Not without serious reinforcements to that defensive unit. I foresee more thrashings away from home.

Just now, philipl said:

read that thread, even when he was sold, and that is nothing compare with the stick he was given during the second half of last season on brfcs.com

 

I’m talking about last season. Of course he got stick he was making errors. 

Many posters wanted him to have competition, a better GK coach, not to just flog him.

Just now, philipl said:

I was one of those most unhappy about Raya going but well over half the message board are asserting Raya cost us at least ten goals and several points last season, convinced he disrupted the defence through poor communication, made rubbish decisions and flapped at every cross. In short, they were insistent he be shipped out and they got their wishes fulfilled. 

Not remotely true that ‘well over half the board’ wanted him shipped out.

He’s gone and that’s that, but don’t re-write history.

Just now, unsall said:

Bit daft, do you think so,I’m talking to folk on this forum, they don’t seem to appreciate bringing guys through,only spending millions. NOT a daft comment thank you.

 Extremely daft.

Who doesn’t appreciate it? This board is always clamouring for academy lads to be played.

From Travis to Buckley to Butterworth and on it goes.

Just now, Swanson said:

"Linked" with Fraizer Campbell.

‘Rule of 3’

Nothing to see here.

Just now, OnePhilT said:

No it's not. I think he hit a confidence block - at least at this club, anyway. I'm not fussed that he's gone and I think we needed freshening up.

Talk was about the goalkeeping situation. Sorry to bring up a point about our previous goalkeeper that might back up the need for new ones.

I wasn’t massively upset by it, but then I wasn’t expecting a young loanee as a replacement.

Just now, OnePhilT said:

I have a suspicion that a decision to loan out or even sell Leutwiler has already been made; I'm pretty sure he is going to want first-team football, and I think he'll find that in League One or possibly even at a lower Championship club. This would explain the need for two new goalkeepers - a first-teamer and a reserve.

When all is said and done, I never felt comfortable with Raya in goal. Potential? Yes, but it's quite amazing how just a few months ago he was billed on here as somebody who would be a liability, and yet now he is seen as "the one that got away". I think it's the Steven Reid syndrome; absence makes the heart grow fonder. Done is done. He must have wanted to move on if he was sold this early in the window, and whether it's Mowbray not wanting him anymore, Raya not wanting to be here, or both... It no longer matters. Done is done, and we're going to be having a new goalkeeper, which I welcome, really. We need a shake up across the entire defence.

Being a bit disingenuous there, yes he was making mistakes, but most knew he was full of potential. Talk was about competition and replacing the GK coach more than selling Raya.

Just now, OnePhilT said:

Based on Mowbray's comments, if the player had his heart set on leaving, it's probably best to get the deal done, rather than having somebody who'd rather be elsewhere. I'm not sure that scenario is great for the rest of the players at the club.

To be fair, if we can’t take on face value TM’s comments that he needed to be sold so we could bring in players, we can’t his comments that he wanted to leave either.

2 minutes ago, unsall said:

I know most on here won’t agree, probably not bothered unless we’re spending millions on new players, but the young talent Rovers are bringing on is excellent, not only that but signing them on long contracts as young Travis has just done.

 

What a silly comment.

Ive never come across a Rovers fan that doesn’t LOVE seeing young lads coming through the academy.

Just now, DE. said:

Seems like 50% of the forum has "sources" at the club these days so on the surface there's more leaks than ever! Or more people talking shit than ever. Might be that one actually.

@footballagent on Twitter, ain’t it?

Just now, 1864roverite said:

I wish some fans would just read and DIGEST the last part of your sentence !

Most fans I talk to realise we won’t ever particularly go anywhere with them (does League 1 count?), but yes we are totally reliant on them.

Been some 9 years, hasn’t it?

Interesting, what do you like about Parker?

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

 

We seemed to be saving the rest of the money for centre back permanent so that's see if we can get this done and dusted before the start of the season. The time to judge the transfer window and our business is after the window closes not now. 

Are we? Not a lot of noise apart from the young loanee from City coming in.

Hope you are right, because another young keeper and a young loanee at the back is nowhere near enough to improve what is a very poor defence.

Just now, Biz said:

Yea- it’s TM’s words.

Do we take those or the ones where he said Raya wanted to leave?

If you honestly can’t take some element of “a pinch of salt” with his comments, id give up reading them.

I look at evidence, in all likelihood a 23 year old keeper will be sold for £3 million and replaced with a 23 year old loanee. 

The club needs to balance the books, fine. But even if Raya did want to leave, that doesn’t preclude experience being brought in as a replacement 

Along with the expected defensive signings, extremely odd business for a club with one of the worst defences in the EFL.

Just now, Biz said:

I’ll be as pissed off as you if we start the season without a GK and CB, but I’m not about to start dreaming up scenarios about having to sell to buy - purely from TMs articles.

As phillipl said t’uther day - it’s not a bad thing if we (fans) and media think the club is skint. It’s far better than “Nixon’s Warchest” anyway.

How is it ‘dreaming up scenarios’? The manager literally said last night we ‘sold the goalie to help buy a forward’

As said goalie is to be replaced by a loanee, that says to me that’s exactly what’s happened.

Now if it’s all a game of poker and an experienced keeper and centre half are soon to emerge, then great, but don’t you like to bring up Occam’s razor?

Just now, Biz said:

Opinions that don’t immediatly assume the worst must really “flex” you’re mood, since you never stop with the petty pas-ag crap these days.

Its almost like you and JHR have had personality transplants  

Is that an admission that there is no master plan for an experienced keeper and defenders to be brought in?

Feel free to be optimistic, but don’t get arsey with others if it’s proven to be unfounded.

Just now, JHRover said:

 

I can't see how we are going to get any improvement on our defensive issues of last season. 

No problem, got great game management has Bradley Johnson.

Fairly obvious, as alluded to by TM, that the sale of Raya was a necessity and nothing to do with ‘wanting experience and a keeper with game management’

£3 million into the budget, and replace him with a lad of the same age on loan and a cheap, back up journeyman.

Joe Hart, Fraser Forster, Ruddy... to lad from Wigan and Simon Eastwood.