Mattyblue

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11 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

End of the day, worse came to worse all that would happen is even more of the area’s kids will have Man City shirts bought for them. That, and TV being the limit of their football exposure.

On that point. Someone on Facebook posted a pic of a kids soccer school, in Chorley I think.

I was first depressed as I didn’t spot a single Rovers, Bolton or PNE shirt (or Chorley FC for that matter), clubs that have always had a decent support in the town.

However, what did lift my spirits is the lack of United shirts. Amazing how quickly club’s fall out of favour. 

Just now, Paul Mani said:

No mate, the CLUB have a plan to buy and develop young players to sell (strategically and if necessary) in order to balance the books whilst progressing towards promotion. - Evidenced over the last 12 months when they’ve spoken about it, Maddison from Norwich and selling ‘a Dack’ etc.

I simply used the 5 players mentioned and priced them at £10m -15m based on their age and potential and stated the £50-75m potential return.

But you keep slinging those insults pal. 

I’m well aware of the club’s model.

Oh good, it is just your view on the 75 million. Thought the club had completely taken leave of their senses.

You give plenty out, so don’t be so thin skinned if wild claims like 75 million for a handful of players in our fairly average second division squad is challenged.

Just now, Paul Mani said:

I just said that was the plan. Not my plan but THE plan. You’re Just making this stuff up as you go along now...

So it’s the club that thinks we have up to £75 million worth of talent once Dack goes?

I was hoping it was just your fevered imagination.

Just now, Paul Mani said:

There’s no point arguing. They’re desperate for everyone else to admit if it doesn’t go our way but there’s no chance they’ll do the same if we’re sat in the top 6 come May. 

Imagine the reaction if we sold the stadium and renamed it the ‘Venkybowl Arena’ ???

Problem is Paul, you make everyone else out like they are idiots (WOW! ??? Etc) whilst you are the ‘football man’, realistic etc.

But it’s you that thinks we will avoid FFP by selling one player in 12 months time, even though we have no idea on his worth at that time, just an assumption it will be enough - oh and 1 year left on his contract by then (so a reduced fee), unless he signs another? Another assumption.

But even if we do sell him, that’s fine as we have up to 75 million of talent coming though. 

Its cloud cuckoo land stuff coming from you.

Just now, Parsonblue said:

Thanks for a very sensible assessment of the position we are in.  I totally agree with everything you say.  I'm sure a few years ago both Bolton and Bury fans were saying someone will buy us - and they did and look where they are now.  Slow and steady progress may not be exciting but I'm more than happy to keep on that path rather than gamble the future of the club away.  As you say, massive mistakes were made early on but we can't alter that - the past is the past - we can only look to the future and, sadly, our income streams mean we are always going to be up against it with regard to FFP.

Then we need to be bloody careful with what we do spend... last summer’s deadline day could hamper us significantly.

To be fair, using pre season matches as a sign that a player is over the hill is a fool’s errand. Johnson looked like he was towing a caravan, but again it’s all about minutes at this stage.

Graham can’t get a kick in August and September then fair enough.

Just now, Pedro said:

What's the situation with Charlie Adam? 

In talks with Blackpool.

I notice Liverpool have that all singing and dancing ‘main’ badge, but their kit has just the Liver Bird and ‘LFC’.

Not sure why you are rowing with me and arbito. Nobody disagrees that we have to trade.

However, in the next 12 months, only Dack has the reputation to pull in a BIG fee. So it would need to be a different approach if his form fell of a cliff. I.e a sell off several of our better players, then we do ‘languish in the bottom end of the Championship’ anyway. Do you remember the fag end of the Bowyer era? The embargo and a succession of our best players gone, as was us knocking on the door of the top 6.

It is what it is, this being the madcap division it is, but it’s a risky business  projecting the sale of one player 12 months in advance as a strategy to avoid FFP.

Just now, Biz said:

When we came out of league one (12 months ago) we had only DG and Nuttall permanent forwards.

I would suggest at that point, we needed strikers. Armstrong, Brereton and Gallagher later - we’re looking very strong up top.

Is it far fetched to expect the same at CB in 12 months? Or do we expect a shiny new promotion ready team signed up immediately?

Samuel? I know we’ve all forgotten he exists.

Obviously the ECB trump card is that the BBC will be showing games. Bang anything on BBC1 and you have millions watching.

Best laid plans and all that. Lot of assumptions in that post, especially if the form of one player is our future financial fall back as a club.

so we hope Dack continues in decent form, doesn’t suffer an injury and the other players actually do ‘kick on’. 

Paul -

You sticking to your view that Mowbray needs to be be held responsible for a failed transfer policy, if by the close of the window we haven’t significantly improved the defence?

How many relegated teams win the league? Very, very few. Having Scott Parker as manager could be their undoing.

‘Negative brfcs’

They all come back in the end... though he NEVER was 

Yeah, he’s back as one of their ‘roving reporters’, isn’t he?

End of the day, worse came to worse all that would happen is even more of the area’s kids will have Man City shirts bought for them. That, and TV being the limit of their football exposure.

Bobby Moore’s final game in England for Fulham at Ewood in 1977

All they need to do is get the T20 Blast on terrestrial and we are laughing, the interest is there already, just needs harnessing.

But no, the ECB make up a nonsense tournament with nonsense rules and remove the counties.

Not missing the point at all. Spending is great, but it has to be done wisely or we are back to the late Bowyer era and every chance of the 3rd division (that yes, is still better than Bolton).

Then we be best be careful how we spend it, no last minute panic buys of very raw teenagers.

Yes we should’ve made ourselves a regional power in the 90s, but a series of strategic errors post ‘95 meant we never did.

Who’ll question him on it? 

Certainly not the LT or Radio Lancs.

Don’t get me started!

You want ‘parochial’, try Lancastrians making out our great county is actually that little rump politicians created in 1974.