20 hours ago, jim mk2 said:

 

How can you make a judgment on the PNE players if "you don't know much about them" ?   Nonsensical.

Nothing  negative except we've re-signed 2 old codgers who are likely to struggle next year. 

 

Graham Burke? didn't cut it at Villa. 

the other 2 signings aren't great and shows the PNE policy. 

don't see them improving the PNE 1st 11 but squad players next season for them

20 hours ago, islander200 said:

Would be seriously dissapointed if we are the club.He really isn't good enough 

fair enough. expect him to join Rotherham 

20 hours ago, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

Time to get Dack and Lenihan tied down, then get on with some real business.

both should be given 4 years contract

19 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

 

“Where you spend the money in your team is important. Who’s the really talented free transfer who might be touching 30"

Looks like theres potential for disagreement between yourself and Mowbray...

Anyway regarding Conway, really disappointing to see him given a new deal. His legs have gone and hes too old to contribute anymore.

Only 3 things I can possibly put anyone putting a positive spin on the move down to; an ignorance to his performances last year (perhaps not seeing him that often live), a reluctance to be negative about someone whose been a very good servant, or a reluctance to be negative about any decisions made by the manager.

His first 2 and a half seasons, he was excellent, he did have Gestede to aim for during alot of that, and he was never fast, but he had enough in his legs to get that yard, often cutting back, and his assist tally was competitive with the best in the division.

He did have spells of decline during his last 2 Championship seasons, he had times in both seasons where he wasnt in the team, and last season, importantly against far inferior players, his attacking output was almost zero. And him being a good character/influence is not a reason to give him a new deal alone, we needed to be ruthless, Mowbray needed to be ruthless and I dont feel he has been.

Sadly, not only is he taking a space up in the squad and a wage (however big or small )up that could have gone to someone external capable of having an impact, but we now also risk having a good servant to the club becoming that player who people dont want to see on the team sheet for another 1 or even 2 years.

 

what disagreement? I used Mowbray previous comments about the age bracket he was looking at. That's what I used to suggestion some possible signings. 

I amazed that you are really disappointed Conway got a new deal. 

Here is Mowbray's reasons for keeping him and his role for next season(similar to my opinion of his role). http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/16290061.Tony_Mowbray_on_why_Craig_Conway_was_offered_new_Rovers_deal/?ref=mac

You 3 reasons are laughable as I've seen Conway played lots last season, the other 2 reasons are just bizarre. 

1 hour ago, Bigdoggsteel said:

How have Nottingham forest managed to just spend 13 million on a midfielder? Are they rolling the dice 

I reckon we should have 2-3 in by the end of next week. 

Did any of you watch the show last year that follows wilder, the Sheffield utd manager, during the window? It's bonkers. I don't think some fans realize just how difficult it is to sign players. So much stuff going on with agents, players saying one thing, then doing another. As Mowbray said, the thing is getting players to sign on the dotted line. 

 

Yes I did watch that TV show. it is very bonkers and so much going on. 

I don't see Forest challenging for top 6 this season anyway. 

1 hour ago, Ladyboys of Bank Top said:

Storey looks one for the future and the lad they got from Oxford looks a good player. Their left back has gone to Cardiff. My point was they are actively pursuing their targets and getting them. Mowbray wants 5 players in by next Sunday so they can bond with the squad in Austria. He needs to get a move on. 

Yes he would like them in but if we dont we dont. Mowbray will get the right players in. If it take to time then so be it. 

I wouldnt have any of PNE signings but I dont know much about them

1 hour ago, RV Blue said:

I think we’re not being linked with anyone because Tony is too busy speaking to the press about transfers, get on with it man!

Haha. 

Mowbray and his recruitment team have been busy. These deals take a while to get sorted. Why the negative vomments. 

58 minutes ago, Ladyboys of Bank Top said:

From Keifer Sutherland to Keefer Moore! I rate him as a target man. Not sure about his prowess in front of goal, but as battering ram setting up the likes of Dack, Armstrong or whoever I think he'd be very good. 

Dont know much about it. 

Rotherham are after him. 

11 minutes ago, JHRover said:

New 1 year deal for Conway confirmed

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2018/june/craig-nets-new-contract/

Very good news. His experience and knowledge at Championship will be good asset to us. 

Nothing negative at all about this. 

Barnsley have turned down bids from  2 Championship clubs for striker Moore.

Could be Rovers be one of these clubs? Anyone heard owt linking us to him

20 minutes ago, JHRover said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/06/13/nottingham-forest-smash-transfer-record-signing-joao-carvalho/

But FFP? Perhaps Waggott and Venkys could go and have a word with them at Forest and find out how to do it.

Is agent Mendes involved in this transfer?

Just now, Ladyboys of Bank Top said:

North End have just made their 3rd signing of the summer. Have Tony and Steve gone back on holiday? 

Would you have wanted us sign any of them here? 

Havent they just sold one of their best player to Cardiff?

Mowbray on striking the right balance on transfers

https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2018/june/striking-the-right-balance/

22 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Only if the loan players brought in are of sufficient quality to make an impact with the first team.

I don't want to see raw youngsters like Harper being brought in who sit on our bench and only get 5 or 10 minutes of action every now and again.

From the outside looking in it appears that Mowbray doesn't have much faith in our own crop coming through.The likes of Tomlinson has been in and around the first team squad for a couple of seasons now and if Mowbray doesn't believe him or others are good enough then they should be loaned out or sold

Thats why I said good loans. Not sure who would be good PL loan player tbf. 

Is Tomlinson ready for Championship? Not sure maybe loan move for half of the season

I expect Travis to be around the 1st team squad. 

Mowbray on Loan players and Premier League clubs see Rovers as a great platform. 

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/16282789._Premier_League_clubs_see_Rovers_as_a_great_platform__-_Mowbray/

Hope we can get a couple of good loans in before start of the season

Just now, roversfan99 said:

Whilst you are right @chaddyrovers that we can only sympathise with Bruce regarding his sad personal circumstances. On a totally seperate note his signingw have been in the main poor and the gamble of money he spent has now backfired, regardless of previous managers.

Also signed Hogan, Bjarnason, Neil Taylor, probably 1 or 2 more and they havent really worked out. 

I would agree most of signings have not work out

2 hours ago, J*B said:

I give up. For the last time...

IF ALL YOU ARE POSTING IS A LINK, PUT IT IN THE THREAD TITLED "LINKS".

It may be me, if it is I admit it's being done wrong. But it seems so, so simple to me.

Fair enough JB. No problem

I post the links on the link thread. Then a quick summary on here. 

46 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

60k a week for John Terry, 50k for Micah Richards, 50k for Agbonlahor, 40k for Lansbury, 40k Jedinak, 40k James Chester, they were paying 40k a week of Snodgrass’ wages. Hutton 30k a week, Kodja 30k, they brought in Chris Samba. It goes on and on.

An enormous squad with easily the biggest wage bill in the division. So yeah a ‘huge budget’.

 

Only Samba, Snodgrass, Lansbury and Terry are his signings. 

McCormack is on about 60 k isnt he?

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

Bruce walking away would be the easy option. He had a very good budget last season and while he was there. He also signed loads of players on loan. Not getting that squad promoted is a failure and it’s his failure. The chairman deserves credit for backing him, if anything. 

That being said, I rate the guy as a manager and he has a good record, but like anyone, he’s not above criticism.

I wouldnt blame him for walking for family reasons. Cant be easy losing both parents within such short space of time. 

But Villa has wasted of money on players. Some of money being spent there on wages are far too much. 

1 hour ago, Ladyboys of Bank Top said:

So it was Venkys who got us promoted and not Mowbray? 

Mowbray got us promoted but Venkys back Mowbray plan.

2 hours ago, islander200 said:

Are you saying Bruce didn't have a huge budget?The owner authorised the signings but surely it was Bruce who chose the players. 

He hasnt spend loads of money compare to previous managers like Di Matteo. Spend money on rubbish players. 

52 minutes ago, gumboots said:

It's not hard to grasp for most of us.  We were responding to what chaddy SAID he'd been told.  But it would help if you changed the thread title i think

 

I got a 6 hour banned for posting a link yesterday in this thread

57 minutes ago, arbitro said:

But he has to accept his responsibility in the mess as he was the manager with a huge budget and allowed to sign players and take in expensive loans. He failed to get them promoted and now it looks like he will conveniently hide behind the off the field stuff. He has walked away before several times and has had nine managers jobs in eighteen years.

Sorry but the owner is at fault he authorised the loan deals and transfers. 

Huge budget? 

9 hours ago, arbitro said:

I thought he would from the moment the final whistle went against Fulham. He has a history of walking away from clubs and my guess is he will use the financial problems as an excuse. And he will be back on the merry-go-round in no time at all.

Cant blame him tbh..

Its a mess at Villa and the personal issues he had to deal with during the season. Maybe it time for a proper break and some family time

23 minutes ago, RovingRover said:

Here's the link to the Sky Sports News article: http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11725/11402674/duane-holmes-attracting-interest-from-rotherham-blackburn-and-derby

In response to the height question, he is 5ft 6in tall.

If we are looking at him, I wonder if it is a possible alternative or replacement to Jack Payne?

Birmingham Live also linking us with David Cotterill who only managed 3 games in 6 months in India following his release from Birmingham.
Think this is probably agent talk though as he doesn't fit the profile of that Mowbray said he was looking for a few weeks back. https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/birmingham-city-transfers-championship-sunderland-14775084

Links should be only posted in Transfer link thread as I was told yesterday by @J*B

Just now, Bigdoggsteel said:

How much do people reckon we will spend on transfer fees? I am going to go out on a limb here and say between 3-5 million. 

Anyone care to take that bet? 

I think there is money to spend. 

I expect us to try to sign Armstrong permanent. Expect Mowbray to try to sign Chapman. 

Holmes look good in playoffs for Scunthorpe. 

Rich Sharpe tweet

A few attacking wide players starting to be being linked to #Rovers - Scunthorpe's Duane Holmes (whose just had a one year option on his contract taken up) the latest.

Sky sports linking us with him

http://www.skysports.com/amp/football/news/11725/11402674/duane-holmes-attracting-interest-from-rotherham-blackburn-and-derby?__twitter_impression=true

From Rich Sharpe tweet

Linking us with Scunthorpe's winger Duane Holmes. 

Full tweet in Link thread

28 minutes ago, Ladyboys of Bank Top said:

New signing to be announced imminently I'm hearing. 

Where this from? 

Good source?

Just now, Biz said:

I agree, especially since we have 0 out and out wingers at the club. Will be a good backup/squad option

Agree

2 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Not happy with that to be honest. That money could have been better spent elsewhere. How many games will he start next season ?

Im very happy we re sign on a new contract

His experience and knowledge will be assest this season. 

Conway set to put pen to paper to new deal very shortly..link provided in the Transfer link thread

Conway set to sign a new contract

https://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2018/06/12/por-conway-set-for-new-rovers-deal/?__twitter_impression=true

Media reports suggest Steve Bruce will walk away from Villa