Our budgets are limited wether that be due to Ffp or the owners reluctance to spend. Its a dead season this year we aint getting promoted and we aint getting relegated either. A new manager would want as much money as possible to build his own squad.Like i have said if a deal too good to be true presented itself then of course i would want the club to act on it but is a 26 year old who has spent his career in the lower leagues and Scotland doesnt strike me as a game changer added to the fact Mowbrays brother involved i wouldnt want that type brought in if the plan is to change managers. Mowbray has made some good signings but the majority of his good signings we have had to wait for development before seeing an impact on the field excluding Dack and 1 or 2 others

Did you read the post you quoted.First line?I said its my opinion that the non spend was ffp related. I then said "I" wouldnt be giving him funds to bring in players in january "If" the plan is to sack or not renew his contract. I will stop quouting your posts as we will never agree with this or your bizarre judgments of younger players which 9 times out of ten you are wrong

I didnt say they had i said it was my opinion its ffp related.Its not an assumption to think we are close to the limit with ffp. Im talking this January which is what my initial post replied too.We have a manager who is out of contract at the end of the season.Majority want him sacked including you so it makes little or no sense to allow him to bring in players on two year deals IF the plan is to sack him.They will not get us promoted under him.

Tough time in india?Wasnt someone on here saying profits were up? They just put 16.6 million(yes for the training ground but i will wait and see whats done with it before id say its dodgy) into the club plus the Armstrong money so things have changed. We disagree on it but i think the no spending was ffp related and with minimal income projections surely would have forcasted a player of significance being sold the previous summer or January. It isnt the first time spending has stopped to start again.Usually stopping at similar times in the cycles. If the plan is to get rid of Mowbray at the end of the season then he shouldnt be given money to bring lads in on two or three year deals when another manager may not fancy them.

I disagree.Unless it is a deal too good to be true or we are spending decent money on a few players that would significantly increase our chances of promotion(which ffp wont allow,which you have been saying yourself) Talk of players like Hedges and pre contracts for the summer sounds like Mowbray will be here next term.I dont know too much about Hedges but i doubt many prospective new managers would have him on their transfer lists If he is going then he shouldnt be given money in january to spend when it will likely at best lead to us finishing a couple of places better in the table which might be 10th instead of 12th.The league is poor but no way are we getting promoted under Mowbray as he cant help himself and will never just pick a settled team and will constantly revert to trying to play the opposition at their own game, losing more often than not.

So then Mowbray must be staying?You allow him to make signings in January then he is replaced and the new manager doesnt want these players? Stupidly wasting money. We will not be getting promoted barring a miracle and it seems unlikely we will be pulled into a relegation battle so unless a really good permanent signing presented itself i would keep the money for the next man

Do you think Mowbray is capable of getting us promoted or without decent investment this squad is? We dont have the concistency of a top 6 side and Mowbray with more bodies will only end up making more changes.Bennett and Evans would still be here if he had his way,he wouldnt have looked to replace them he would have given them contracts. Surely if we have money to spend then you keep it for the next guy.The more money available better chance of getting someone decent(altho anyone decent under these guys unlikely)?.

Will be stupid spending money in January anyway unless Mowbray is being given a new contract or we are under threat of relegation which seems highly unlikely

Farke had a decent sporting director who had a hand in the signings and some exceptional young talent already at the club, you would have to imagine that Norwich have a superior scouting network to us with our owners being the jokers that they are.

Because Mowbray is no longer flavour of the month and the taps are off or due to ffp we cant spend. I think he will be gone but i think up until losing it last season the owners were backing him

He deserved his deal maybe but he should have been potted long ago.If the height of your ambition is to have a manager who seemingly thinks our limit is mid table championship then fair play.Iv never come across a bigger ego, he is wrong about nothing. Him deserving his deal doesnt mean he should then have a say who should be ceo which he clearly did have a say in

Have you had your eyes shut the last 11 years? Can you put your hand on your heart and say certain managers throughout that time havent had an unhealthy amount of power at the club? Its just coincidence that Waggott happened to be familiar with Mowbray ,that Park familiar with Mowbray, that he manages to get a 4 year deal for a keeper another championship club deemed not good enough yet everyone else seemingly only gets a 2 year deal.That they had been our owners how many years previous and no talk of a sale of the training ground for housing yet it comes along with Mowbray and Waggott in place when it happened at their previous club. What are these meetings in india about?He has to go all the way there just for them to give him a number?

He didnt come out and directly say he wanted it shutting but He didnt directly say he wanted the academy shutting, he alluded to the fact through the media that it might be more benefial us picking up lads released from prem academys at a later age so the money could be put toward the first team. If he had his way the academy wouldnt be as it is now.

The owners are the main problem it doesnt mean the manager isnt a problem aswell. He more or less said today that the best we can hope for under him is mid table.Unless he gets 100 million to spend ffs. The list of managers you gave above are all better managers than Mowbray. I just want a manager with a little ambition and doesnt talk us down constantly.

Wharton, Ayala, Pickering, Dack and Gallagher out though. Take 5 of similar importance from other teams in the division and they would have poor benches too

Its on sky sports football tonight

Its the featured game on sky football tonight so not sure if rovers tv have it?

He did look very good at that time,injuries seem to have stalled his progression

He didnt play for Charlton? Bielik is who you will be talking about, ex Arsenal

Yes but they employ and pay good money to people to run the club on their behalf.Do you think abramovich or any other billionaire owner with a large buisness portfolio is personally looking over chelseas books or is he trusting the people he employs to make sure everything is in order? I would agree that the owners are to blame in the sense they employ incompetent people and leave them in situ but with the money put in i just dont think we can lay all the blame at their door here.Im not saying its been promotion money but the money put in should have us in a lot better position. My opinion is we are a small part of the buisness, we recieve minimal interest from them, they work out a budget with the manager,Ceo and finance people.They are as absent as you can get and from the outside looking in at times throughout their reign people on the ground have taken advantage of that fact.And that isnt me taking blame away from them as i am in 100% agreement they are the overall problem

Many times througout his reign you will find quotes from Mowbray about going to the owners and asking for a bit of help to bring a player in.

They dont care about us enough to be worried too much about that. At the end of the day the accounts show the injection of cash was needed for us to be ffp compliant

I dont trust them either and i want them out without question. But imo owning us is not about making money off the club for them.Look at the amount they put into the club,covering losses after losses( which i know is their own doing but still it only adds to my belief they aint in this to make money out of the club).Nothing drastic has ever been done throughout their reign to drive income into the club.They continue to put money in for transgers(when allowed).They only sell players when practically forced too. At the end of the day i get peoples suspicions but what has actually changed.If they wanted to sell the STC at any point they could do.Setting up this company and putting this money in doesnt make using the STC for housing any easier or any harder

Give a valid reason why they had to do it this way if its about them making some money. 1 valid reason? They own the club and they could sell the STC at anytime. They did not have to set up another company and pay 16.6 million into the club.

The owners could have done what they wanted with the STC regardless of them selling it to their own company