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dingles staying down 4ever

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  1. 1 minute ago, garnersfags said:

    As many of us have always said, it is no surprise that Nyambe is performing so well with a decent run of games under his belt.

    TM has made it clear that he isn't his biggest fan, and my view is that this is at least part of the reason he hasn't signed a new contract. Are we even sure he has been offered an improved contract? 

    I will be personally devastated if he leaves. I really don't think he warrants any of the criticism aimed at him. He is more instrumental in our recent run than many of us realise.

    This will only become clear when he leaves. 

    £3m in our current stable situation would be a joke (yes, I know it is currently an unfounded rumour).

    £3million for someone walking for free in a couple of months is not a joke. A shame yes.

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  2. 9 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

    any takers?

    Horrific video but still funny that he can piss off Spurs fans.

    In all seriousness, probs not for me, his injury record speaks for itself

     

     

    With his once a week presenting gig at Talksport and coaching at Arsenal, Id be surprised he is seriously looking. If a London club is desperate enough then I think he may try to play.

  3. 52 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

    Yes, but the stats speak for themselves, we never did anything whatsoever at Championship level with Graham in the side.

    Barely ever threatened the top half, let alone a serious play off push.

    I'm not saying it worked all the time. As previous seasons have proved Mowbray's teams have one way of playing only, whether that's this season's style, last season's possession bore or playing off Danny Graham.

    I much prefer this season's efforts but as I've said earlier there are times when things aren't going to plan. A more direct style where we can by pass midfield and get to the front men can be effective late on in games. For that to be effective we need someone who is comfortable with their back to goal like a Graham in his prime.

    The ability to mix things up is an ability that we could help us over the line. 

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  4. 8 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

    We already have one carthorse in Gallagher if we want to go down that route in the last segment of games.

    Why would we want another older, more expensive one?

    Same was said when we signed Danny Graham. He could hold the ball, trick centre halves into giving away free kicks. Are you saying you can see that in Sam Gallagher, Im afraid I cant.

    I not saying we need to change everything but after an hour sometimes  the ability to buy a free kick is a skill I think Rovers miss at the moment.

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  5. 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

    Better trying to find someone who can supply a killer pass if we're up against it.

    Thought we had that already with the midfield that contains Buckley and Rothwell, but at times conditions and opposoition formations prevent this being effective. At times a bit more Agricultral football is needed. The key is variation

  6. 44 minutes ago, briansol said:

    I really don't hope we change style just to optimize Dack's output. Finally found a system where the whole is stronger than the parts. It's better to wait untill Dack is fit enough to play the system. I also think Dack is more than collecting knockdowns from a target man. He was roaming midfielder in his Gillingham days, so should be able to play the Buckley role when fit enough.

     

    Agree but we do need a plan B, not just plan A with different personnel if things aren't working. Playing off a target man could be an option especially with heavy pitches. Its beyond coincidence that Rovers' poorer games in our great run is PNE and Huddesfield after torrential downpours.

    Dack's ability in finding space in and around the box was key to many of his goals with Graham. I cant see SG giving that ability to hold and lay the ball off. 

    I'm worried that with two serious knee injuries that box to box is a bit much to expect now.

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  7. 3 minutes ago, JacknOry said:

    Yeah Sheff Utd sorry, was reading the first few pages where Boro were interested in him. 

    Regarding Boro's interest, surely the only person with Sheffield connections' opinion that matters in this would be the Boro's boss whose dealt with the player before. If Burke was as bad as many on here say surely the Boro boss wouldnt touch him with a barge pole?

  8. 9 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

    You're not seriously comparing Lenihan, Nyambe and Rothwell to the likes of Graham, Mulgrew, Bennett and Evans are you?

    There"s no comparison whatsoever primarily due to their respective ages.

    Graham no and possibly Mulgrew and Bennett no. Evans and Smallwood both given extensions and probably rises whist in their 20s so yes there is a comparison in ages.

  9. 4 minutes ago, RV Blue said:

    Rothwell is our most important out of contract player, he’s a Premier League player in waiting and would be essentially irreplaceable at this level.

    Really? I dont see the stories of the PL clubs lining up to sign him. Not even Alan Nixon. He is important to us at present granted but lets not get carried away. He has potential to be premiership material but most clubs dont need potential at this stage of the season.  

  10. 23 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

    Rich Sharpe has said in his Q&A today that we are offering them 3.5 year deals, with a 1 year option.

    Also, even if they stink out the Prem as you suggest, with the £130+ million that promotion brings, nobody is really going to give a shit about their long 15k a week or so deals. Even if they were on 20k each, that's 3 million a year, and puny compared to the promotion funds. Besides which, it would likely be very easy to get a Championship team to buy or loan them after they formed a key part of a promotion-winning team.

    I agree in principle in what you say but what happens if they stay and we get relegated after one season? If we do sign them on 15-20k/week there would be many on here still complaining that they would still be a drain on resources. People said that about Smallwood when he got his contract but soon turned when things did not go well.

    Also 130 million you estimate for a season in the premiership still does not recover existing debt so I think every pound in wages is not puny.   

    All three players up until this season have divided opinion of if they were good enough for us so lets not get carried away with it would be easy to shift them.

  11. 34 minutes ago, Gav said:

    Clearly not Darwen Rover or they'd have signed.

    With the club riding this crest of a wave, how good would it be for the club to immediately offer these players increases on the deals and get them signed for the next league game? 

    That is what Jack and John Williams would have done, within reason of course, but then again we'd never have gotten to this stage in the first place.

     

    Like they did with Scott Sellars and David May. I know both were here before Williams started but can we stop with the Walker and Williams thing? They didn't always wave the magic wand and get it right. They did get things wrong as well.

    From what Ive heard, its not necesarily the players but the agents being the issue. Lets not stop the beating of Waggot over certain things and in time this maybe true here. It would be great if these players were signed but lets not forget recent history.

    Remember when we came up from Div.1 we gave out bigger contracts to the heroes of that campaign only for 12 months later everyone complained their contracts were too big and long.

    It maybe that they are after longer length contracts and if we were to give them what they want and go up then what happens? 12 months down the line and these players are stinking out the premiership out there would be those on here asking why did we give long contracts to these donkeys as they were never good enough for the premiership even though they'll be the ones demanding they get signed up now.

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  12. 12 minutes ago, Tugayisgod said:

    If the ‘other players’ don’t want to sign, then the priority has to players who will and can still make a big contribution 

    Genuine question....when was SG's contract up? I know Mowbray has had him play RB but I would say priority is to sign players whose contracts are up or replacements not players who at present are understudys and contracts arent in danger of running out.

  13. 1 hour ago, Mattyblue said:

    It is quite a normal thing to do. Think Gordon Cowans, think Mark Hughes in our previous promotion seasons adding vital nous and experience.

    But it just doesn’t seem TM’s style, especially if he’s deemed to have a ‘problematic’ attitude…

    Those type of players sound great until you start putting the likes of Danny Murphy in there as well

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