58 minutes ago, broadsword said:

Not sure about that.

 

From what I remember under the trust, our o/d with Barclays was running at a steady twenty mill

 

They'd paid it down though selling Bentley i think it was around 10 mill when the club was sold plus there was another 3 million loan from the Walker Trust.

I thought it was 23 mill, 10 mill for immediate debt then 10 mill to be injected straight away to cover running costs ?

Next season is going to be a really really tough sell.

Not sure how many more blind alleys i can be bothered with as even when things went well for a short spell there was clearly no intention of promotion.

50 minutes ago, OldEwoodBlue said:

This game has no importance.

Tuesday the wankers are in court.

Hopefully they get told to fuck off in Indian legal terms. Bringing administration closer.

Nothing matters until they are banished forever.

It'll never happen they'll just arrange some high interest loan against the remaining Wharton instalments then sell what they can in summer.

They've winged it ever since they walked through the door that's why we are in the mess we are and it'll never change.

1 hour ago, DeeCee said:

With Leo in goal I'd play a back nine.

You could play 2 Leos in one goal and we'd still concede iv'e never seen such an odd keeper diving for the ball, flaps well fair enough many young keepers in this era have that problem but backflips are a new thing.

Millwall fans gripes mirror these on here, Harris is too dour and negative, hope he's just here to keep us up then replace him, we show zero intent to attack a poor team, stop messing about with it at the back it cost a goal again last night...

So on and so forth.

Championship football in other words.

It will always be impossible whilst these lot own the club and have their puppets running it.

Money or no money it's always the same and we've seen both extremes under their ownership.

It's pathetic to put it politely.

4 hours ago, martonrover said:

Exactly.

League One is much stronger now.

We might even have fellow development club, Crewe, in the same division.

They will probably be about our level.

They've become our feeder club but it'll probably end up the other way round before long.

1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I'm surprised he's not being criticised for the goal - he was loafing back there. Didn't even try to get his foot in to block the shot.

Precisely why he should keep his concentration on the game, the guy knows hes been poor this season and a limp captain on the pitch.

That's why he seems fixated on trying to spin blame onto fans and the fact he must have seen it all before at Coventry makes his actions and comments more odd, he knows how it all works and knows why people are fed up. Then again maybe he was only there during their upwards trajectory i'm not sure.

Whilst iv'e seen nothing other than the basics being restored in defence which is pretty standard for any British coach the other side of the coin is we could have had a guy come in to dominate possession every game, play a higher line, look prettier....and lost the last two 1-0.

We've seen that before.

Rule of thumb under this ownership is it could always be worse.

16 hours ago, tomphil said:

Fully expecting these two coaches rather negative must not lose tactics to cancel each other out.  We fully need someone to pull something out the bag tonight to make the difference imo.

I'll be amazed if it doesn't finish 1-1 and see a sub 11k gate.

Well got the gate slightly wrong but the rest came to pass pretty much as expected.

We needed the keeper to perform above himself but one shot one goal, we needed Sammie to be Sammie and he was.

Beyond all that i do have a modicum of sympathy for Eustace we have to remember what hes walked into and all this talk of no wins, new gaffer bounce etc it doesn't surprise me whats happened.  First job for any guy coming in is tighten up at the back and make us harder to beat and hes done that. In such a limited squad that takes something away from the attacking side naturally and we have zero quality to unlock tight teams or score set pieces.

Last night you have the ropey rookie back in goal who you need to protect, a slow back line led by a 37 year old so that needs protecting tactics wise as well.  And a team come to park the bus with little intent to do anything other than protect the point so a difficult mix and nothing we haven't seen before at the business end of the season.

Eustace isn't a magician guys although taking short corners in 94th min with no intention was pathetic and deserved every moan it got. 

I expect it'll all go through and just enough to see us through to summer will be made available.  Next date will be set for well into next season so liquidating more assets and more cuts with have to be done to see us through to next Oct'ish.

Death by many cuts when a lot would prefer a clean cold one chop job and just get it over with.

Just now, Bbrovers2288 said:

We were never doing that under Mowbray, we were playing shit football in league 1, lucky to go up imo

It's worth pointing out we saw this football under him plenty times with way better at his disposal.

Too many short memories around our lot.

Hyam is a plant pot i think he comes across a bit snidey to be honest, a big arrogant.

He needs to consider that ironically and fortunate for us it was Millwall pissing about and being negative at the back that led to our goal so no wonder fans are panicking.

He also needs to wake up to the fact he not the fans is very much a part of the responsibility of where we are this season so stop trying to deflect that.  You get the feeling down there some want to try and blame fans instead of accepting their own failings.

Thirdly they brought in a 37 yr old to show him how it's done, a guy who is twice the defender he is but now getting old.

Concentrate on the pitch and your team mates not what's going on behind the goal you prat.

39 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

More walking football. Nobody is actually running on to the ball . We play in front of teams all the time and never get in up the sides. We play standing still stuff in little bunches, sooner or later we balls it up. it so easy for an opponent to nip in and steal the ball.

Great goal from Sammi, the goal of a man in top goal scoring form. No hesitation - bang - far corner. The lad is priceless.

I’ll have more to say tomorrow.
 

I watched Ipswich later. It was like they were playing another sport. Pace, high tempo, never say die attitude. Chalk and cheese.

They are everything we should have been after lge 1 promotion but we had a set of dollopers running the show who were actually getting backed with cash but choosing to tell the owners woa slow down.

Never forgive them for that they really weren't the heroes they were made out to be and the biggest tit of the lot is still riding the gravy train.

If you suddenly find you can't or do not want to put in 15 million a year but don't want to or feel you dare not sell the club then it figures the attention might then turn to reducing it to a level you can just keep it plodding and leave incompetents running it whilst virtually ignoring it again.

Someone there clearly doesn't give a stuff what happens but we've been here before.

After finishing 8th then 7th i wonder what the odds were on relegation before summer began.....

No heads rolling means ultimately it was pulled by India which is what most suspected anyway.

Someone was told not to click send.

Relegated again because of Gary Nevilles old house ?

Only in Venky land could this happen.

Fully expecting these two coaches rather negative must not lose tactics to cancel each other out.  We fully need someone to pull something out the bag tonight to make the difference imo.

I'll be amazed if it doesn't finish 1-1 and see a sub 11k gate.

4 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

So you're comparing yourself to the Venkys then?

Cos the only comparable situation is that you've employed him as your gardener then given him 50p to do a £500 landscaping job.

Trust you to try and defend it.

This guy paid 800k for Leo, gave Ennis a 4yr deal and agreed to a loan fee and several million more quid for an unproven in this country striker just because his agent suddenly upped the price.

Whilst he's had to work under limitations it isn't quite the shirt buttons you allude to there, some other clubs seem to manage it.

If Greg was your gardener you'd have to check the labels on whatever he brought back from the garden centre, dandelions being passed off as roses.

36 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I’ll need to see how he goes for the rest of the season before I jump to that conclusion.

There was something else at play though with this one and without going down any Anthony Stokes type rabbit holes in terms of dodgy signings i can only think JDT didn't sanction it, didn't rate him and was proving a point.

1 hour ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

I just think we need to mix it up and get fresh legs in the starting 11 (something we should have done at the weekend) cant just keep playing pretty much the same 11 in thecsame formation and expecting/hoping things will improve

Yeah to be honest i would've made big changes on Saturday i'm surprised he didn't.

Waggot was hobnobbing with Shearer and drinking champers with his geordie pals in the lounges at the cup game.

That's why he's here he's riding Englands best gravy train he'll go nowhere unless he's shoved and i dread to think what comes next.

13 minutes ago, Torgeir said:

Trademark Rovers would be to offer Fleck a new 2-year deal now because they feel bad for him getting injured while playing in a Rovers shirt - and not gettingt he opportunity to show the fans how good he is.

Was reading the comments of a Sheff Utd fan earlier who was saying his legs had clearly gone before they gave him a 12 month extension.