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  1. 12 minutes ago, JohnGo said:

    My understanding is the same as yours, but by clearing out the old guard on massive (for Rovers) salaries the rolling average will give a new manager more leeway than Mowbray has had.

    Only if the ownership provides the same budgets and the cutback isn't permanent. If that's the case there is big trouble ahead no matter who is manager.

     

  2. 9 hours ago, MCMC1875 said:

    Why is Rovers such a "private" club these days compared to what it used to be? My thoughts (I might be wrong): Desai and Confused have washed their hands of the club and left it to Fat Barry and his son Jagdish. I came round to this way of thinking more when the tv gantry was switched from the JW stand to the Riverside to make the ground look "better" on tv. Not seen or heard anything to convince me that the club isn't a plaything that Fat Barry spends £20m a year on for something to do.

    Thought that for a long while and things did change at companies house in terms of overal control. Still think Madame is in charge of the VH group though and if money comes via that she'll still have a big say in it.

    I do think though that BJ and son play real life football manager with the club.

  3. Yep very tricky ground if one side wants to stay but the other wants change or vice versa.

    Like i said though i think this is the wheels starting to churn leading to his new deal. Making it sound like things are up in the air is an attempt at forcing some hands imo.

    Then again it is Alan 'i'll make something up' Nixon.

  4. 27 minutes ago, roversinmyblood said:

    Why? He wasn’t good enough for PNE. Sure he got Norwich promoted but didn’t TM get Boro and West Brom promoted? Chris Wilder might be a better bet unless his tactics that got Sheffield Utd promoted but ultimately got found out, makes him a “busted flush”.

    Mowbray got sacked at Boro for going nowhere under sliding crowds and fans ready to turn.

    If Mowbray goes why not give Neil a go ?  He's out performed Mowbray with far less and his team have beaten ours. Shouldn't cost the earth if it didn't work out.

    There's worse out there for sure.

  5. 1 hour ago, pomster said:

    Dont forget Suhail too

    He was reported trying to sign a player just before deadline off his own bat too, but that fell through

    Surely Mowbray must be feeling undermined? We need the trio gone and respected managers brought in

    On what grounds does he have authority to do that if he's just a messenger boy ?

    I think it's always been blatantly obvious this kind of thing has gone on at Ewood all along no matter who the manager is. All this xyz is in sole charge of transfers is gubbins under this ownership.

    Do we have another Shebby Singh in our midst wielding a bit of clueless power around off his own bat ?  Albeit a publicity shy version of course, i wonder why that is.

  6. Iv'e been wondering why theres not been any mention of his contract being up this season. Not by the local rag or anyone else outside the fanbase which i found a bit suspicious. 

    Now it begins, a bit like the outgoing transfer stuff usually starts...Nixon !

    When it was mention by a couple on here they'd heard there'd be a root and branch clear out this summer it looks as if that was right. My opinion on it though at the time was it would be Waggot and Mowbray conducting it not the more popular thought that they'd be the first victims of it.

    Well here we are, he survived some of the worst non winning runs in history. Survived being backed as much as possible within limits to have a go at the top end only to keep seeing seasons derailed. And he's still here whilst many have been weeded out not only that hes brought yet another of his pals in.

    This folks is the start of the wheels churning in public leading to his new contract. 

  7. 22 minutes ago, WIR Second Coming said:

    I'm firmly in this group, having been brought up on regular visits to Ewood Park under Bobby Saxton, Howard Kendal, Jim Smith, Gordon Lee, Don Mackay and the like. The key factor for me is the dismantling of any real local interest or affinity within the local senior management team. The arsehole currently masquerading as Chief Executive wouldn't have had a nanosecond's attention from anyone under the likes of Bill Fox, or John Williams, and would be nowhere near the top table (except maybe to sweep up after a game). Until there is a locally oriented, Rovers-obsessed and committed management structure back in place, I'm afraid the club will remain in the doldrums and supporters will continue to be treated like an inconvenient afterthought, akin to a verruca, by the shameful morons who are running our club into the ground.

    Nearly vomited when I saw this... https://www.walmsleywilkinson.com/news-and-insights/interviews/inspiring-leaders-steve-waggott-ceo-blackburn-rovers/ 

    UN FUCKING BELIEVEABLE!!

    I posted that a while ago it struck me as very relevant everything you need to know about how he works is in there. He'll squeeze it till it pops, make sure there is enough to cover his own wages then fire off and leave someone else to pick up the pieces.

  8. It's his usual double edged nonsense probably lifted from comments on here.

    For a start the under 10k pwk thing just fits with the FFP and embargo stuff. The not sanctioning long term deals etc surely applies to our own out of contract players as well ?

    Perhaps someone is trying to shove Mowbray under the bus it's classic Rovers under Venkys. Blame shifting but nothing changes because no one actually officially comments on anything.

    Next thing we know he'll have a contract extension and Nixon will be spinning that as a sensational U turn.

    I can fully believe that Mowbray and co encouraged them to sell Armstrong for the money on offer. After telling them they had a cheaper replacement lined up only for that to fall flat or be bullshit. They should know how he works by now though, slow train to retirement.

     

  9. 58 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

    To be fair, not even the Club have attempted to come out this time and insult everyone's intelligence by suggesting this was a good window or that it went the way they would have wanted.

    Yet...

    Nothing is done with any drive here anymore it's always why bother today we'll do it tomorrow. Waggot only surfaced to try and cover his arse over Brockhall then went back under his downgrading manual. TM will just be consulting his Coldplay album with his tea and biscuits before he lets rip with his spin when the tame local media get in front of him.

    All very relaxed and comfortable.

  10. The LT comments section is the club propaganda account nothing more. It's the two or three banging the drum for everything that goes on down there. 

    On here, twitter and even facebook has more balance to it.  Plenty posts the other night expressing similar views to a lot on here in terms of the transfer window. As well as the usual more positive views.

  11. It was similar though early on last season we played a bit of counter attacking stuff and pressed high in other games. Then once there was a few points on the board it seemed to become all about possession every week. Odd game aside of course.

    Fully expect similar this season he can't resist messing about with it every time something has worked well hes altered it at some point. Hence no real consistency until the possession stats popped up last season.

    Usually it's the rotation of players and trying to get people involved all the time that dictates here.

  12. 10 hours ago, Tom said:

    Unusual that we haven’t heard the usual platitudes from Tony today with the only quotes on the back of signing Edun presumably before the disappointment later on 

    Is he fed up himself?

    I don't see how he can be expecting any sort of backing now to be honest. He himself knows that for our income hes had tremendous backing compared to similar clubs in his entire time here.

    He spaffed 12 million on 2 forwards years ago and only recently do we see any green shoots from either. He just about covered that with the sale of Armstrong but that was 4 years in the making nearly. Also he fell out with then nudged out a keeper for 3 million who is now probably worth triple that.

    The likes of Downing will have cost over a million in his brief stint here and there are other examples. So he's still in debt to them to the tune of millions on any balance sheet although of course selling a fit Dack would've balanced it.

    Pray we don't have to wait another 4 years for him to produce and sell another over 10 million !

  13. 8 hours ago, joey_big_nose said:

    If the owners were properly engaged Mowbray would definitely have gone last season with the horrendous run we went on. No manager at a properly led club survives that run.

    What exactly the owners are up to, signing off millions of additional investment every year but not seeking to properly lead the club is bizarre.

    Their behaviour feels like the situation is they have to own the club and do enough so it survives, but minimise investment beyond that. It doesn't really make any sense.  Why not just sell up?

    I hope one day we find out.

     

    They are daft enough to be hoodwinked again though by people they trust. Not maybe in the evil way of some of the former nest of snakes but more in a gentle trusting way.

    If and it's a big 'if' it's an ambitious top end challenging club they want then they are just backing the wrong horses again. Because they don't appear to be being ripped off almost monthly to the tune of millions disappearing and they like the guys in charge they just go along with it.

    One plan comes up they back it, doesn't work, a raft excuses get swallowed so tear it up and give us another one. We are on about the 3rd one now so you'd think some coffee might be being smelled.

    Wouldn't hang my hat on it though.

  14. 54 minutes ago, Crimpshrine said:

    Apologies if this has been discussed already - I'm sure it has but I've not been keeping up.

    Chapman's new contract followed by a season long loan has to be the the most bizarre bit of business ever.

    We have no money but we are paying Chapman to play for Burton Albion and paying out more money out to loan other players in!! OK, Burton will be paying a portion of the wages but not much.

    There must be some conspiracy theories why Mowbray signed a player for a third time with no intention of playing him

    1) He was being philanthropic and kindly handed Chapman 12 months championship wages knowing he would be playing in league 1 ( see Gladwin, Smallwood, Downing in the past ). He doesn't mind wasting the club's money!

    2) No evidence for this but we know it happens - Mowbray maybe gained something from the deal ??? 

    3) Mowbray was convinced we would be under embargo and thought that taking the 12 month option on his contract may be the only business he would be able to do in this window. If this was the case then where is the communication between manager and the financial people at the club ?

    Whatever the reason,  it's a right cockup and a waste of money at a time when the club doesn't seem to have any to spare.

    A combination of 1 and 3 for me.

  15. 12 minutes ago, Gamst said:

    Have no idea how Mowbray plans to shoehorn all these diminutive false 9’s into the starting 11. I’m assuming we have promised game time to the parent clubs? Maybe he has a master plan or more likely there will be multiple spins of the famous tombola with limited success. 

    He will have told their clubs he'll develop them so i expect a few surprises. In typical fashion he'll have one or two of them shoehorned in somewhere they don't fit just to see if they can cope with it.

    It's absolute heaven for him all this is that's why i'm 90% certain it's him and the other two's idea to go this way. 

  16. 2 hours ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

    Blows my mind that they don't have more ambition than conning some Indian chicken farmers into thinking they are good at their jobs. 

    They aren't capable of it nor do i think theres ever been much real desire. You can tell that by the patterns of play and style at times. Never been a hint or urgency or grabbing the bull by the balls its always been plod along 'this time next year' type stuff.

    They've pitched the slow build then been found out, pitched the possession stuff and getting in some experience whose done it before etc. Resulted in contributing to worst finish in years. So then they turn around and say you need 100 million !

    To me this is just their latest little plan to keep their circus on the road another few years. So many things to hide behind now they've created their own cover.

  17. I think it quite simply could just be a case of the Coventrio trying to show the owners they can operate with a small budget after coming under possible scrutiny for all they spent. And obviously the FFP issues.

    With AA out the door and the fee incoming it gives them leverage.

    Then not spending just begging and borrowing to finish midtable sets them up for new contracts. Look we've achieved the same as last season with 2 thirds the budget, that type of thing.

    Then throw in a few lines about journey starting and this is the way to promotion without 100 million but it may take another 2 or 3 years. And there you have it their sales pitch for new deals !

  18. 34 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

    agreed (they all want sacking not just holding to acount) but why does this sunhail bloke get off? not much is said of him but he does seem to be heavily involved in things, especially when money and player transfers are involved. 

    He's the only one who can really answer the questions that needs asking he is the owners right hand man. I'm constantly amazed he's allowed to continue his existence in some sort of parallel universe away any scrutiny. Local press should be ashamed of themselves, if he won't front up then flush him out, call him out but do something.

    What really is his role ?   Who else is he connected to ?   Who pays him and how much ?   Is he on some kind of % for wheeling and dealing players or is he connected to or running his own agency from the club ?   

    And why does he just sit back and hide in the shadows whilst the club goes round in circles and Mowbray & Waggot seem to do what they want ?

    If he's completely powerless then why is he even here, if he is ?

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