RevidgeBlue

Find it very odd that you offered a failing manager your unstinting support for three and a half seasons yet you wouldn't even give a new appointment you don't approve of even the briefest of chances to prove himself?

Apologies if I've missed it, which two names did you post on here other than Farke?

Yep.

Possible but somewhat unlikely I'd wager. I do however concede that if the outstanding candidate out of a field of 50 was someone who has only managed for 5 competitive games what must the other 49 have been like? That said I'd take a punt on someone untried and untested like Ferguson over a proven serial failure like Mowbray anyway.

That in itself would be a bit of a red flag for me. If they thought he was any good, you'd think they'd be fighting tooth and nail to keep him.

The ferocity of the reaction against the prospect of Ferguson surprises me, he has the advantage of not being Mowbray and would I think be unlikely to put up with the sort of holiday camp mentality that has pervaded the Club over the last eleven or twelve years. I think we could do a lot worse. That said, he wouldn't be my first choice, not by a long chalk and it wouldn't scream of the owners having any real ambitions for the Club despite protestations to the contrary.

It's not a particularly significant factor, the owners could if they so wished easily afford anyone we could realistically attract and plenty we couldn't. They would have to figure out how to get round any FFP implications but as someone else said earlier they'd probably be better spending more on the best manager we can possibly get as opposed to forking out £20m p.a. to trail in lower mid table Championship under an unsatisfactory manager forever and a day

So......if it goes to the owners...... those at the helm don't have autonomy on decision making?

Point completely missed as usual. I know you're trying to wind everyone up peddling your usual "We're poor little Blackburn Rovers, how can we possibly hope to compete?" line but in this instance the cost is irrelevant. Whatever the managerial pool we are fishing in, we ought to be able to identify a couple of stand out candidates and bring them in, not interview anyone with a pulse. The local media seem to be making it a badge of honour that the "short" list is getting longer and longer when the opposite is in fact the case. We need a quality not quantity, a couple of top quality names not sifting through a sea of dross. Still, what do you expect with Waggott conducting the process?

Not right bothered now they can't win the quadruple. That WOULD have been unbearable! Don't really want Madrid to win it either. They've committed daylight robbery to get past PSG, Chelsea and City already!

Agreed. The "interview process" is only a good idea if all the candidates are much of a muchness and there isn't a great deal to commend one over the other. If there's clearly an outstanding candidate in there who's expressed an interest you're only going to piss them off. Not saying CC is quite in that bracket, I'd reserve that sort of accolade for Dyche, Santo, or Farke. However he might be considerably better than whoever we end up with.

I meant I "agree" with you it would be a toxic situation if we ended up with another Coyle style appointment. Not I "accept" it and would be happy with it! I think this is pure supposition on your part tbh and also think you're being very generous to Waggott if you're assuming he's shortlisted five or six stellar candidates. For me he's equally likely to recommend a dolloper who's prepared to work with the existing staff to save a bit of money. So to play devil's advocate, if we actually ended up with someone better than the likes of Carvalhal mentioned thus far, would you be prepared to give the owners credit on the basis they must have intervened and inserted someone better? I again "accept" I.e. "agree" you're right to be sceptical as to whether this would actually happen given their track record of appointing managers thus far but I have even less faith that Waggott wouldn't just recommend the cheapest option given his track record in general here.

You've said your first choice would be CC yet it seems widely accepted he wants to bring in his own staff! Would you be prepared to sacrifice CC so you could keep DJ and Benson at the Club?

Yep, IF they were interested then Farke, Nuno (and Dyche) should be way ahead of Carvalhal in the pecking order. It's just that CC seems a somewhat safer and more appealing prospect in comparison to a lot of the less desirable names mentioned.

Pretty much.

Don't agree with this at all. That would only be the case if all five or six names on Waggott's shortlist were top names. Plus, we don't know what he is, or isn't, recommending to the owners. Why hasn't he cleared out the coaching staff already? Why has the fate of the existing coaching staff even been flagged up as a potential issue? Is he going to recommend to the owners we go with some desperado who's prepared to work with the existing staff at the expense of better candidates (such as Carvalhal) who aren't? I do however obviously accept though that IF we end up with another Coyle style appointment, it will make things very toxic again. Final point, as for him walking out if an appointment is made he does not approve of - do me a favour. He's never going to walk away from that 300k p.a. job voluntarily (sadly).

Sharpe hasn't got a scooby has he? He's just recycling info/rumours off here. He should be ashamed of himself stealing a living nicking stuff off here and passing it off as his own instead of coming out with any worthwhile scoops himself.

Pretty sure he's retired although I take the general point.

I prefer: "Going down the Bolton Rd - To see Carvalho's aces!" Still jumping the gun horrendously in either case mind!

Don't let Gav, reel you in. He's never once accused Mowbray (who never made the play offs here) of "failing", but levies that accusation against Carvalhal (who made the play offs twice). Strange that.

Can we not even get his first name right now? Lol.

Many a true word spoken in jest eh? 🙄

Well done Carlos, it is of course a no brainer we need to clear the decks. Having him and his coaching staff come in will hopefully be like hitting the players with a bucket of ice water after 5 and a bit years of Mowbray and Venus and even longer with Lowe. Be a bit harsh on Johnson possibly, Mowbray stitched him up good and proper by bringing him in to the first team picture then making him a very peripheral figure.

Why, do you rate Unsworth highly as a coach? Genuine question as I know nothing about him other than he had a fairly unsuccessful spell as caretaker manager at Everton?

SW: "So Carlos, you'll be working with your coaching team of Lowey, Damo and Ben." CC: "Is that the time?"