Spot on. It was obvious he was out of his depth at this level two years ago. But of course it helps when you manage to get your mate appointed as your boss.

It was two years ago.

Bad news on Bennett then......

Bosh. Nail hammer head.

With good reason!

Who the hell would want a shirt with the name of a player on the back who'll be gone in less than 3 months? Anyone daft enough to be sucked in by that will be thinking "Oh ****, I need a new shirt!" come August. You couldn't make this stuff up. Waggott has never done anything obviously worthwhile since being here but since reducing the fanbase by 75% by raising prices during a pandemic he's become a complete embarrassment and liability to the Club. Every so called incentive he's come up with recently will just have exactly the opposite effect and push the patience of the hardy few that much closer to breaking point.

Yes, hung on to Souness way way too long. However, two wrongs don't make a right!

Completely agree. It's like we don't trust our own youngsters but if lads of the same age or even younger are on the books of a Premier League Club they're seen as the be all and end all. Can't see that this lad will be significantly better than Magloire but at least it wastes yet more of the V's money and reinforces the argument that we couldn't afford the LB we were after. Maybe if we hadn't previously wasted money on the likes of Gladwin, Smallwood, Hart, more recently on Trybull, Downing, this lad and also remembered to send Douglas back before the option to do so expired, we would have been able to!

Should have been potted at this point two years ago and may well have been at numerous times as well since had he not come up with the ingenious move of getting his boss his job which is obviously a massive conflict of interest. They're both stringing things out for as long as possible until retirement. We can only hope the V's quickly tire of chucking in £15-£20m every season to stagnate in lower mid table and go over Swag's head.

I'm not 100% convinced that Ainsworth would be the best man available were the V's to wake up and pot Mowbray but by god, if he got the role he'd treat it as the biggest and most prestigious job in the world, put a bit of pride back in the place and we wouldn't be going out of the FA Cup at the first time of asking three seasons in a row. Especially not to opposition a division below us.

No Howard Kendall? Probably the understatement of the millennium!

Not surprised at all we lost today, is that three successive losses in round 3? Mowbray just sees Cup games as an un necessary extra irritant and a fixture to be fulfilled. You could maybe forgive this if we were challenging strongly for automatic promotion every season to compensate but we're not even seriously threatening the play offs and are trailing in around 14th or 15th every season give or take. Mowbray and Waggott are getting away with blue murder.

Sorry, we're at the point where it would be exceedingly different to do significantly worse.

Great result if it signals the end of Mowbray's mind numbingly dull and pointless tenure. Thoroughly depressing if as is likely it makes absolutely no difference. That's about where we're at getting beaten at home by a League 1 side in the Cup and neither the players nor the manager being remotely arsed because the players can't be bothered to play the extra games and the manager knows he's under no pressure whatsoever whatever happens.

Difficult to disagree. Same thing happened last season if I recall. We were desperately short of centre halves and our solution was to send Magloirr and Wharton out on loan!

Obviously was never a City fan but Colin Bell was one of my favourite ever players. Different class. As another poster said above, RIP Nijinsky.

Question wasn't directed at me, but I would understand your reservations over Pulis and Hughes. We're in such a rut however I think that we need a new face, to an extent any new face to being a semblance of a plan and to snap the players out of their complacency and comfort zone. Don't understand your opposition to Neil, I think he Rowett, Wagner and Cowley would be big improvements on Mowbray and Ainsworth and Cook slightly less sure fire guarantees of improvement but still likely to be better. As regards the HSH list, I think Robins would be very interesting and a near certain improvement and I think Bellamy could be interesting, possibly with an experienced older head alongside him initially. He would certainly knock a few heads together! Then of course there's no guarantee at all we'll appoint from HSH anyway. My choice would still be to offer a top name like Pearson or Bilic a short term deal until the end of the season with a massive bonus for promotion. Either way a change is needed now if we're to salvage anything out of this season.

Happy New Year to everyone and let's hope that 2021 is substantially better than the hellish one that's about to expire. On a personal level I'll be hoping for the Government to develop a bit of backbone and return us to normal as opposed to "the new normal" at the earliest possible opportunity before we all go bust and there's nothing left to go back to. And on a secondary note a new manager and CEO at Rovers before this season becomes yet another dead rubber. (If it isn't already) We can but dream eh? All the best to everyone.

Based on what exactly? Happy New Year by the way.

Yes, Lee vastly superior to Mowbray as well. I wasn't a fan of Saxton but he was working with buttons and even he had us top of the equivalent of the Championship one Christmas before we completely imploded. Mowbray can't even get us in the top six for more than a week or two near the start of the season.

Hi Mike. Hands up, I was totally in favour of Ince being appointed. It turned out fairly disastrously but sometimes you have to take a gamble. Against that arguably our best pound for pound manager ever Howard Kendall had no managerial experience prior to coming to us, and arguably our best ever manager King Kenny had no prior experience prior to getting the gig at Liverpool of all places. So I don't think you can rule suggestions like Terry out altogether but you have to factor in the lack of experience and make a judgment call.

Spot on.

Agreed. I didn't think Coyle ever lost the dressing room either. He just couldn't set teams up to defend and you knew that if we'd need to score three to win or that if we had a lead going into the last quarter of games it would probably end up a draw.

Liverpool are still top though.

I actually think it set in under Allardyce and his ethos of prioritising games. Works for him and ok if you're in survival mode but not good if you're targeting a promotion.