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5 hours ago, Upside Down said:
They aren't fans. Never have been.
37 minutes ago, Upside Down said:If you're a supporter of venkys then you are not a supporter of Blackburn Rovers.
It's like calling yourself a peace activist whilst supporting a war.
Not everyone sees everything in such a binary manner. By making it so divisive, you're potentially alienating people who either aren't aware of what you are or people who could join your view.
I would love Venkys to leave but on the provision we don't end up with someone worse and there's been a fair few examples of them throughout football. I also don't accept administration as being a necessary step - nevermind what happens to the club's league position, I'd be concerned for employees suddenly out of work. The academy would likely go, which along with the stadium, are jack's remaining legacy.
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For all the flack Elliot Jackson receives he's pretty on the money with today's article https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24095815.blackburn-rovers-club-crisis-off-pitch/
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Just now, jwlrovers said:
Maybe explains why a loan for Leonard never seemed on the cards... they knew he would be needed as one of three.
But we let Ennis go, and that was only confirmed later on when we believed McGuire was completed, along with Vale. Another attacker would have been needed to let Leonard go out.
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Even if the appeal is successful I'm more bothered about McGuire's frame of mind. Flies halfway around the world to find the situation has changed, left in limbo trying to sort something, back to us...and now this. At 22 he's still only a young adult. Having an ambition seemingly taken away, back in place and if it's taken away again... I'd be distraught if that was my kid. Either way the club needs to do everything possible to look after him.
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5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:
Especially not from GB.
What do you expect GB to do? Sign Mbappe and De Gea and Bellingham?
Gets told he has to generate transfer funds to spend and then it turns out those funds have to be used largely for running costs. Wage budget gets slashed too, so harder to attract the better free agents. Even those he may be able to sign (Baath) get vetoed from above.
Both are working with their hands and feet tied behind them. Easy to say quit in protest but some people need a livelihood or have integrity when they've signed up to a job. It's those around them and above them that could do with he same.
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Noticed JDT didn't say to direct questions to GB. Recruitment is being hampered by others
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Would he be as jovial taking pictures outside if it's definitely off? First round to Tommy hopefully
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12 minutes ago, G Somerset Rover said:
Tommy Rovers vs Nathan Jones.
The Showdown.They needed a replacement for Fury v Usuk
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26 minutes ago, TommyRovers said:
Just a formality I believe. Duncan is currently at Ewood for the game. This isn't a repeat of O'Brien.
Sticking your neck out. Really hope your info is right.
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Hopefully Nick finds time to look into the Venkys again. I trust him to provide an objective view on them and, in turn, provide some context on how Rovers' ownership is viewed outside of the club. Without administration, points deductions or other sanctions (and without the Venkys making outlandish comments like the owners of Reading of Sheffield Wed), there seems to be little reason for the media to give them coverage
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5 hours ago, Galgaterover10 said:
What a weird assumption!! You think JDT leaving will cryptically be tweeted by the women’s Twitter account. That is peak levels of conspiracy
No, crossed wires. My thoughts on the situation are not related to the tweet. I was initially saying the tweet was, due to the time mentioned, not great. I then in the second paragraph gave my thoughts on jdts situation.
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22 minutes ago, Tom said:
Would assume they’ve signed a player from Northern Ireland?
Very possibly, just think it's ill thought given the fan base are now waiting to hear from JDT which will be around 5pm.
Purely my own thoughts...I think he announces he is leaving now or at the end of the season. They didn't want him saying it today so as to not distract from the immediate game.
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Given what has happened today this is a peculiar tweet from the women's team account
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He has his own Instagram account, but probably too much to hope he speaks out on there
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Well on one hand a DoF was employed who appointed a coach who has brought an attacking, exciting style of play, with mixed results. The DoF has also been much more proactive in getting players on longer contracts, so players don't keep walking away on a free. Theoretically this provides greater financial stability.
On the other hand, as we're all aware, finances have been tightened and the promise of last season has pretty much all been eroded.
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For those interested, Nick Harris of Sporting Intel has provided this response to a question I put to him re the ownership and how they may exit. Recommend signing up to his newsletter/substack even at the free level, which is what this is from.
Agent of chaos: why the Venkys might not be the real bad guys in Blackburn
Alex writes: As a Blackburn fan, it's fair to say the discontent with the owners is growing again. You covered the Venkys quite a bit previously but is there much which didn't make the public domain? And how do you see their ownership being resolved i.e. are they likely to sell or would it be administration or some other means that sees them leave the club?
Several other Blackburn fans asked similar questions, including Alan Sheppard: Came here [to last week’s mailbag request page] with a similar question. Especially with the new rules about moving money out of India that seem to have caused cash flow problems at the club.
NH: Thanks both. To start, there is a vast archive on Sporting Intelligence of Blackburn material from 2010 and 2011.
I went to India for a week to meet the Rao family and look at how rich they really were (really rich) and find out what their motives were. I spent a lot of time with them and in contact with them through 2011 especially.
Alex asks about information not in the public domain but I wrote about pretty much all the dodgy stuff as it happened, and by dodgy stuff I don’t mean by the Rao family, but principally by the agent Jerome Anderson, who orchestrated the deal to sell them the club in the first place without making it clear either to Blackburn’s board at the time, or to the Rao family, that he was acting for both of them without telling the other, for a commission at both ends.
His aim was to persuade Blackburn to then let his company run the club on their behalf, and import players from all sorts of strange places to give them a world stage in the Premier League (with him as their agent) and then sell them on for profit (for him). Anderson did indeed get such a management contract, allowing him to fire and hire managers and buy players, among other things.
the matriarch of the Venky’s clan, Mrs Rao, was naive and massively badly advised, but wasn’t corrupt and had good intentions for the club
He fired Sam Allardyce, hired Steve Kean (a client of his management stable) and started recruiting players, often with massive agent’s fees for associates of his.
As far as I could judge, the matriarch of the Venky’s clan, Mrs Rao, was naive and massively badly advised, but wasn’t corrupt and had good intentions for the club. The Rao family remain owners and have spent hundreds of millions of pounds on Blackburn since 2011 because, I feel, they do not want to fail. They still think they can get the club back to the Premier League one day.
At this point, it’s unlikely that they will receive an offer for the club that would recover a substantial amount of the money they have spent – but if they did, I think they would probably sell. More likely, they will do whatever they realistically can to keep the club out of administration – a scenario in which they would lose control completely.
As for currency export issues, these have been happening since late 2011. Remember when there were fears that not having enough money in the club’s bank account at the Blackburn branch might lead to wages not being paid? That was due to currency export issues. One of the moves they made to get out of that one was selling Chris Samba to Anzhi in Russia in early 2012.
I will try to look again at the whole situation soon – and if I find anything concrete to report, I’ll write about it here.-
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1 minute ago, Upside Down said:
Have we signed this McGuire permanent?
Loan.
1 minute ago, pick32 said:Pears
Wharton Fadz Hyam
JRC Tronstad Garrett Sigurdson
Szmodics
Gallagher Dunc
isnt a bad first 11 but the bench is awful
I'd go Dolan over Siggy. JRC for Garrett, Brittain on the right.
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2 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said:
It can’t, arithmetically it literally isn’t the case.
But some see it as a go to phrase whenever we sell a player (whilst equally angry when a player goes for free).
It's understandable not spending millions today, to a degree. But the fan base will reasonably expect millions to be spent in the summer.
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3 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:
Ya know what’s mad - Travis got loaned out because Wharton was taking his place in the 6 role
Then we sold Wharton
And we didn’t bring anybody in to replace either
Classic Venkys
I'd say Tronstad is the 6, Wharton more an 8 which I'd expect JRC to take when Brittain is back.
Ennis sale confirmed by the club. Only positive with that signing was getting a fee for him.
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3 minutes ago, 47er said:
Guessing we'll be hearing from you at the next window?
I engage when there's something going on at the club that I feel I want to voice an opinion on. I probably also start an annual shirt/sponsor thread.
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5 minutes ago, roverandout said:
I'm actually at the point again like I was under Mowbray where I hope rovers get beat so we'll go down and venkys eff off. Unlike Mowbray I like jdt. Just pissed off with the whole club. I really couldn't give a toss anymore. Rovers have been flat lining for the past 10 years and those cnuts have refused to defibrillate the club
Not trying to be antagonistic but if you don't care anymore why are you reading and actively engaging with this part of the board? Genuinely, if it upsets you this much, take a break from all to do with the club. You might feel better for it.
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5 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:
That was then before the Indian Court proceedings and this is now in case you hadn't noticed.
I'm sure you have but are on the wind up.
The post I was responding to said we should bring back the talk of Venkys asset stripping. I'm not happy with how they run the club but I don't think this can accurately be labelled at them.
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2 minutes ago, TheKitGuy said:
It was a term phrased a lot during Venkys tenure, however it needs to be brought back. This is asset srripping at its finest. Anything that can be sold for any worth it's gone. The V's are playing their own version of bargain hunt and we sadly are the viewer.
The amount of players, some of whom we received bids for and were turned down, who have left on frees would suggest otherwise. As would the continual loss they make in putting money into the club.
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Venky’s, HMRC…The Plot Thickens ?
in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
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I agree. But there will be a large number of Blackburn fans who range from casually following the club and looking for results to those who wait for club or local news articles to pop up. They won't necessarily know things which have taken place. By saying they support Venkys therefore they don't support Rovers, it creates a division that wouldn't likely make them want to look into what has happened or not believe it.