Eddie

If nothing else, that should teach everyone a lesson when they try to judge a player based on what 'WBA fans are saying'.

Well, we did bring one in and I would say there is a good chance that at least one is signing in the next 50 minutes.

90 minutes is a long time at the end of a window. Plenty of time.

Square peg? He’d be absolute quality. I won’t believe it until I see it, but if we somehow got Murphy and some central defender to bolster options I would consider it a successful window. if we sign no one, which I expect, it will have been a poor one.

Honestly, I should report this post.

Yes, who would I rather have playing out wide in a 3 man attack: Wayne Rooney or Danny Graham? Hm...

Rooney seems like just the deal we should have been after. Must still have a house in the area, so would have been more convenient than Derby. Great experience to pass on to younger players and could definitely still do a job in the Championship. Would be just the kind of big name the owners were desperately after when they first joined. He might turn out to be rubbish and a horrific coach, but it would have at least generated a bit of interest.

Huh? What an arbitrary set of figures to throw out there. This window has shown that every club (including the likes of City and United) are struggling to get deals done. Clubs want more. Players want more. Hopefully, we can get something done in the next 72 hours.

No. Because Palmer would be 3rd choice for 1 spot. Personally, I would be starting Brereton now, but in the very least I would have him as second choice for 1 spot (with the possibility that we could actually play 2 up front). So, no, not quite the same as the Palmer situation and we are now discussing players that we should add to our current squad - not decisions that were made 12 months ago. We have the squad that we have now. The question is how can we make it better.

God, the f*cking Brereton discussion. Did I sign him? Is he the counter-argument to every point that is made? I personally think Brereton will turn out to be good. Would I have spent 7m on him over signing players for more important areas of the squad? No. Do I think he deserves to be given a little bit of slack on this messageboard? Yes.

I am as frustrated as anyone on here by our transfer activity and the way we started the season but can people please stop analysing what managers say in public. Some managers will happily throw their players under the bus (Mourinho). Some managers will defend their players until the very end (Guardiola). What a manager says in public is not a reflection of how he feels, what he says to the players, or what he will do. Be critical as you want of our actual transfers and how we played yesterday, but let's stop pretending that Mowbray drinks some truth serum before he steps in front of the press.

Probably a place for him in the team? We can't play Palmer without dropping Dack. If we dropped Dack I would rather play Rothwell. So you'd spend 3m on a player who would be 3rd in the pecking order?

So, took a day to think things over. Positives - Johnson (major positive for me and a huge encouragement) Things that were ok verging on positives - Formation Travis Gallagher Negatives - Defending (collectively) Bennett Dack Overall, it was a game that we should have won and, in my many ways, we played well enough to win it. That being said, we created very few chances and rarely looked like troubling them. What's worse, Charlton only managed to make it into our half on a handful of occasions and managed to come away with 2 goals. The sad thing? There's nothing new here. I'm not a big Mowbray hater - not that I love him either - and I will reserve some judgement until 4/5 games into this season, but something has to change. Bennett cannot play. We need a CB to replace Mulgrew. Dack is doing his best possible impression of Rhodes. He had one moment of quality yesterday, but, apart from that, he was a complete passenger. We can't afford to have a midfielder who goes is anonymous for large stretches of the match. He should have been the first one-off for me, it was crying for Rothwell to come on in his place and add a bit of pace. The one major positive is that I hope this forces a bit of action on the transfer front and in the selection process - but I am not that hopeful.

Yes, because scouts have never passed on a good player before...certainly not the Barnsley scouts...

Glad to see this racist nonsense getting another go-around in this thread. Expected more of you - especially expected you to be aware of the fact that this is the article Sterling used as an example of the differences in tabloid coverage of black and white players. We don’t know why this deal is falling through. Maybe he’s a massive tw*t. News flash - most footballers are. May also be us messing around or City messing around. Let’s just stop sharing this complete shit.

Shocking. Almost as if a manager is choosing to not share his entire transfer strategy with the general public.

Good teams have been playing short passes from goal kicks for years, the only difference now is that you are allowed to receive the ball inside the penalty area. There's no logic behind simply lumping it up and hoping that something comes from winning the header, makes far more sense to look to keep possession.

Jim, I've been around here long enough to know that you are smarter than that.

Well, he did manage to make Everton's bench on a couple of occasions last season, so it seems about right that he would at least expect to be in the discussion to make ours.

Whatever gets you off.

Or it was just an observation on the different ways that people were reacting (including sometimes two different reactions from the same people). You're the one who has struck the arrogant tone but thank you for introducing me to the concept 'English' football. I can't wait to experience more of it.

I do love periods where I can just be an observer on this site. One week - 'we've extended the contract of our backup keeper??? Why??? We need a better first choice' Next week - 'why would we sell Raya? We could never replace him!!!'

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Just a tip for next time - if you're going to semi-condescendingly explain what something is you had better get it right. The European Golden Shoe isn't awarded simply to the player who scores the most goals, it's a weighted system. Modric won the champions league, the club world cup, and was runner-up in the world cup (where he won the best player award). Now, I think a lot of people would take that over a league and two domestic cups, if you don't that's ok, it's a subjective award. My point is that you called it a farce. It's not like they selected Joe Hart as the winner. I mean, that's one of the dumbest things I've read in a while. They finished 32 points clear of 5th. Now, Messi is their best player and an amazing one at that, but they've got a lot of talent in that side and, whilst they may not have won the league without him (which is still saying his individual impact is worth 14+ points), they definitely wouldn't have been 32+ points worse off. By that logic, you'd arguing that Messi + our team from the mid-2000s would have won the league every year. Hyperbole in the extreme. The guy above has said this is like two fanboys arguing, to me it comes across more like a couple of kids who've just discovered who Messi is telling their friends that he can fly.