9 hours ago, unsall said:

Nobody said he’s the new Messi, but he  will end up a decent forward, worth a go on a free, why do you come out with garbage like that, you say you hope you’re proved wrong, I really don’t think you mean that, think you hope he fails,you basically don’t know what you’re talking about, or you’re winding everybody up.

You really do talk nonsense.

Supported Rovers for 55+ years home and away including Europe and in the process probably spent a fortune when factoring in family tickets etc.

Also. played at a decent level myself until I busted my knee (as opposed to those who have never kicked a ball in anger in their life).

So don't try and tell me I don't care about Rovers or I don't know what I am talking about.

I hope Brereton proves a roaring success. as I do with all Rovers' signings, however, based on what I've seen of the lad, I think we've signed a dud in a £7million deal - it's as simple as that.

So Brereton is the new Messi then based on some of the stuff on here!?

Philipl talks about Brereton being the best fit for our strategic needs at £7m!?

Wasn't at the match today as working but feels like a sense of perspective needed here.  Seen Brereton's run in the box for the penalty, and we were lucky to get it, and will see the same thing countless times tomorrow on the local pitches from young lads playing for fun and paid nowt!.  Read comments he looked 'bright' but it wouldn't have been difficult in what even Mowbray said was a 'horrible, ugly' game.

Hope I'm proved wrong but I don't think the lad is a £7million player and never will be.  Would have been worth a go on a 'free'. 

Just now, AdamRochina said:

rothwell has to start he just flipping has too,  his movment and intelligence is second to none, brilliant little player

You'r right.  The lad has a spark.

Sounds awful and sadly predictable given the starting eleven.

Mowbray doesn't help himself.  Leaves Palmer out after one of his best games for us, shunts Reed out wide and plays 'dumber and dumber' as our two holding men. 

Defensive and square pegs rule!

1 minute ago, Miker said:

Frustrating first half. We’ve been well on top especially at the start and end of the half, but haven’t been able to make a breakthrough. Two great chances for Graham but he has been unable to make the most of them.

This referee is horrendous. Worst one I’ve seen in a while.

Get the £7million man on then!

Can't get to the match today as having to work - looking at that line-up, not sorry about it.  Defensive and square pegs again!

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Very odd deal? 

Why keep comparing to other teams? 

Brereton is great talent and he will become a good player here if manage right which I believe Mowbray is. 

I hope Brereton is starting today aswell

What has he ever done?

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Marriott's wages were a problem. McGoldrick could have been a decent signing but he is in his 30's, Bamford isn't a number 9 striker

Brereton isn't the same type of player as Graham so we are going to have change our style. Said this when we signed him he wasn't a like for like replacement for Graham. Mowbray had spoken of changing our style to more of passing style. 

He is 19 years and need time to develop and understand the ways our team plays under Mowbray. This take times. The club debt shouldn't be any kind of factor in judging Brereton at all. 

 

on Brereton's scouting report wouldn't someone like our Chief scout Stuart Harvey and Mowbray's number 2 Mark Venus not done the scouting on Brereton?  

Who says Marriott's wages were a problem?

He's 19 for goodness sake and joined in a £7m deal. 

Shudder to think what Mowbray would do with 'youngsters' like Mbappe, Alex-Arnold, Ampadu, Sessegnon !

Bottom line is if you are good enough then you are old enough and, IMV, Brereton isn't good enough and will be an expensive flop.

And if Mowbray was reliant on scouting reports from others and hadn't seen the player himself and committed the club to a huge deal then, IMV, he should be sacked.

9 minutes ago, unsall said:

Ok, just a couple, just can’t believe you don’t think training is crucial, so if you don’t do it in training just throw him in the team and hope for the best.

Now you are being silly.

Of course training is crucial.  Many of the top, top players are where they are because they practise their skills long after others have sauntered off.

There are other players who hate training and don't show up well but on the field of play they are dynamite.

The bottom line here is that Mowbray has, IMV, come out with ludicrous comments about Brereton earlier today which could be interpreted as a serious indictment on the way Rovers scout players and make judgements on players.  To sign a central striker in a huge deal for Rovers and then say based on training, he's more suited to playing out wide is, IMV, farcical - it's then compounded by commenting we are a striker short!  If this had been Kean or Coyley..........................................................................................!!!!!

18 minutes ago, unsall said:

So are you another saying training doesn’t matter?

Didn't seem to for Ben Gladwin.  Seemingly stunning in training but, IMV, total cr@p where it really mattered!

LV has also mentioned Bruno Ribeiro, seemingly another star in training but who looked useless again where it mattered.

39 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Wow.  Incredible comments.

Did Mowbray watch the lad at Forest before we signed him?

I think this signing has horror story written all over it.

Got family in and around Preston, and a soft spot for the place, so always an 'interesting' match for the family. 

Sadly, can't make it this time due to a work commitment.

Three previous matches stand out for me at Deepdale. 

A misty Saturday in either Nov or Dec 1967 when we hammered them 5-3 and there was quite a bit of nasty crowd aggro that day.  Seem to recall 'give us a goal' Barry Hole notching at least once that day.  Goodness knows what the likes of Keith Newton, Mike Ferguson, Eamonn Rogers and Barry Hole would be worth today - now they were players.

Kendall's second season (1980/81) when we missed promotion back to Div 1 (now PL) on goal diff..  I put it down to the 0-0 at Preston with only two matches remaining after that match.  We missed some chances that night and it might have been Marshall Burke who missed a sitter at the Town End in the 2nd half when it was easier to score.  Won that and we'd have gone up.

May 2001 and happier times when Souey's lot took us back to the PL.

Will be disappointing if we don't sell our full allocation for this one.

19 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Just as I thought. They arent. Thank god for that. 

Change of tact now. No surprise. 

When you drive throught places and their social media posts. 

Ive seen Armstrong and Brereton in Whalley recently. Have family there. 

Did you never see Kean walking his dog?

20 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Just as I thought. They arent. Thank god for that. 

Change of tact now. No surprise. 

 

Perhaps Chaddy you need to think a little more deeply and then you would not have asked the question in the first place!

As for change of tact - I still don't think you understand posters sometimes don't want to reveal full detail behind gossip/rumour, or sometimes even fact, as they do not wish to be compromised.  I think it was only yesterday you asked a poster to PM you with other strikers Rovers may have been interested in - you just don't leave people alone.  I am certain the majority of members on this MB post in good faith and find it irksome when you seem to frequently dis their contributions should those contributions be contrary to your own agenda / opinions.  

6 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Do you deal with Blackburn Rovers and Waggott/Mowbray? 

Same as your info Mercer you posted. How many times did you say Rhodes would leave? Lost count ???

If Rovers/Waggott/Mowbray were clients of mine, I would not be commenting about them on a MB!!!

A thought for you to consider about Rhodes.  Maybe before he eventually left Rovers, he had been close to the exit door on other occasions until a key individual (or more than one individual) had a change of mind!?

3 minutes ago, unsall said:

Ok very sorry, will try to keep quiet next time I here anything, thought this was a message board for anyone not the usual gang of 4/5.

You shouldn't.  All I'm suggesting is 'information' picked up at such events should be tempered with caution. 

8 minutes ago, unsall said:

Amazing that you know that, your guessing and I was told, but you always seem to know everything.

I am an accountant and I deal with people and organisations in all walks of life (including sport).  Through knowledge and experience, you have a feeling of what's going on in many aspects of life.  I can tell you that 99.9% of professionals in the fields of law, accountancy etc will maintain the highest standards of confidentiality and integrity expected.

Just now, unsall said:

Has anyone said he’s on peanuts, obviously he’s on a decent wage but I can tell you he’s not on anything like Marriots on.

You have therefore seen the contracts for both players?

58 minutes ago, Biz said:

He’s been here 6 weeks - on 10k a week + a decent signing fee, you’d have plenty of deposit for a 600k house.

 

On a £7million+ deal, any half decent agent would have ensured Brereton wouldn't need a mortgage for a £600k house!!!

I would be extremely surprised if Brereton is earning much less, if anything, than Marriott.  You don't buy a Merc and put remoulds on!

1 hour ago, unsall said:

You’re right Mowbray gives little away, but others are a little more candid, not been told exact wages, but told roughly what Marriott and a couple of other strikers we were after wanted and it was very big bucks.

An old, old trick of 'managing' the fans.  Don't buy everything you are told!!!

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Unsall has answered this below. 

Brereton wages would be sensible. Maybe around 10k. Was Marriott's wages around 20k a week? 

Maybe quite a bit higher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When the deal was done, seem to recall Posh owner stating wages 'were big' but certainly not £20k!!

How much do you think Charlie & Bradley are on?

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

His wages were too high for us. Really?  Would you like to share Rovers' remuneration policy with us all?

Marriott isnt a player like Graham so we have to change style like we had when Armstrong or Brereton play there Your point is baffling and contradictory.  IMV, Armstrong can't play that role, Brereton is not good enough to play that role (and as Mowbray wont play him there, he would seem to think the same).  Marriott v Brereton is a no brainer.

Just now, Biz said:

Surely a poorly coached team like ours hasn’t a chance against ex England “Macca”?

We even managed a few results under Coyley!

6 minutes ago, Giant said:

Your posts are always witty and to the point, Mercer, even though plenty of folk take umbrage at them. I don’t think folk get where you are coming from at times. The first two sentences of your latest offering are factually correct, is the last part of sentence three, while also correct, meant to be sarcastic?  a bit tongue-in-cheek! 

Think some need to bear in mind we are playing QPR and not Barcelona or Manchester City.

For crying out loud, they have just one point more than us and we have home advantage.  Why should the supporters not feel confident with Graham leading our attack and £9million worth of striking talent in reserve!?