Shaddy Posted August 24, 2005 Share Posted August 24, 2005 Gillispie dropped not that I thought he shouldn't be, but what's to become of him now? I think he still has a good chance of resurecting his career, as McGrath will retire soon enough, and on form, he's a natural fit for the premier fast bowler spot. However, it may be that his injury-proneness has degraded the rate of his progression to such a point that he may not comeback. One more point, before the next test starts. An English friend of mine thought Vaughan should have declared earlier at stumps on the fourth day (so, not retrospect). I disagreed. After the test was drawn, we both held our opinion. I thought Vaughan was spot on with the declaration, because ultimately, the winning margin was 50 odd... any earlier declaration would have had the knock on of allowing more time for Australia to reach the target, so it magnifies the deficiency in the target score of an earlier declaration. Of course it is all speculation, but I think Australia may have been able to play in a different way and attain the target if Vaughan has impatiently declared, say just 2 overs earlier than he did. The difference those two overs made was a target of 402 (which would have sounded enough at the time) instead of 423, or put another way, Australia being within 35 runs with two extra overs... hmm, after writing all that, I've changed my mind that might have enticed Ponting to play some riskier shots earlier perhaps.... In anycase, declaring as Vaughan did was not a mistake. Apart from his earlier innings with the bat this series, Vaughan has done a fine job as captain. I think both captain's stood up in the third test, and that was important, especially for Ponting, who finally seemed to have figured out that he might be the first Aussie captain in a while to lose an Ashes series... and set out at averting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pg Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Actually I thought that Vaughn could have been more daring and set a lower total. If he had set 398 to win, the Aussies couldn't have resisted having a go. So they would have gone for the win instead of batting out the draw, and IMO would have taken more risks and probably gone down swinging. He could have used their arrogance against them. The Aussies may have thought they had it in them, but on that pitch and against the English bowlers, they were dreaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipl Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 I'd go with the declaration being just right. Australia could have got that total had any top order batsman hung around a bit longer with Ponting. Equally England should have got the last wicket. The asking rate was only a touch over 4 runs an over across a day and a bit- any modern Test side which gets in is going to score at that rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 McGrath out. I assume Kasprovic will come in. Whoever wins the toss will bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Spot on Lee. England win the toss and bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 129-1 at lunch. That'd be another session to England then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthAussieRover Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 The weathers winning the second session:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 134-1 at Tea. Lots of rain but, as the Aussies didn't manage to take a wicket, I'd say that's another session to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthAussieRover Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 134-1 at Tea. Lots of rain but, as the Aussies didn't manage to take a wicket, I'd say that's another session to us. 341784[/snapback] What would you say about the last session? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted August 25, 2005 Share Posted August 25, 2005 Vaughan's wicket probably just swung it the Aussies way. I'd say the whole day was pretty even though, maybe just England slightly on top. Tomorrow morning's crucial. If England can get a good start 400+ is on the cards and it'll be hard to lose the match from there. If the Aussies strike early we could be out for less than 300 and it's all to play for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Well bowled Ponting! Mark Taylor used to have a knack of bringing on a change bowler when things weren't going his way and conjuring up a wicket. Good to see Ponting take a risk and get rewarded. Honours even after day one...onto day two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim J Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Not a great start for england, this one could go either way at this stage, I'll predict another draw, leaving it down to the last test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste B Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Flintoff and Jones appear to have turned it back in Englands favour when getting 400 looked extremely difficult. interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim J Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Freddy has just bagged a century, go on lads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthAussieRover Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Well done Flintoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Well done Flintoff. 342012[/snapback] Said through gritted teeth Don? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthAussieRover Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 All good things come to an end Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaddy Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Who was it that said Blowers is embarrassing? I see/hear your point. He goes on and on about all these distractions to the cricket. But he does have his moments, even though they are mostly unintentional. What did he say today that had me laughing... something like: We'll turn Rodney Marsh on, once he gets into position. Something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthAussieRover Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Fantastic c and b by Kaspa to dismiss G Jones who played excellently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthAussieRover Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 (edited) Harmison st Gilly b Warne. Edited August 26, 2005 by SouthAussieRover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthAussieRover Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 I reckon the bails have been glued to the stumps at times Tail continues to wag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthAussieRover Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 England 477 all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshireblue Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 England 477 all out. 342037[/snapback] Ex-cons look set for a follow on. Three wickets gone by close, I should imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 great knock by freddie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Well done Flintoff. 342012[/snapback] Have you becdome English again now we're winning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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