The most worrying thing for me, was that after all last seasons disappointments and a summer to get things back on track, we couldn't put out a side to play 4-4-2, that was able to cope with West Brom.

My opinion? I know that Harry Leyland was very popular. He was the keeper in the F.A. cup final. Likewise Fred Else was excellent. Roger Jones was signed from Bournemouth and was an England U21 keeper. He gave one of the best ever performances by a rovers keeper that I've ever seen. He kept out Bolton Wanderers almost single handedly at Burnden Park. Any one else remember that. Jim Arnold was one of the most agile shot stoppers ever to wear the rovers colours. Terry Gennoe - a legend. Got better and better as the years went by. Tim Flowers - top man, but possibly not the best keeper. Although took top spot in victory at ewood night. A vital performance in a vital match. Brad Friedal - Seemingly doesn't have a weakness. Maybe a little earlt to vote Brad as the top keeper ever. So, I reckon it has to be --- errr, very difficult. Maybe I'll take a little time to pick between Jones, Gennoe and Flowers. Then again, Friedal and Flowers played at the top level. Does that make them better keepers?

A few people have shown interest in a discussion and vote, for rovers best ever team. It should be fun, quite interesting and create a bit of a diversion from the day to day events down at Ewood. What we are trying to do is allow the members on here the opportunity of voting in, position by position, a team of players from all the era's of Blackburn Rovers - past and present. We have a short list, drawn up with the help of members on this site. The biggest obstacle to it being the REAL greatest team, is the fact that a lot of the members have never seen some of the players from, say, the sixties or seventies. What we need, to try to put forward the case for these players , is the input from the members that DID see them. If any of those members wish to put forward a special case for their favourite player, then please be sure to put that forward in the discussion. Ideally, the discussion should see people putting forward the reasons why, for instance, Lucas Neill is the best ever rovers right back Hopefully, those reasons will be properly considered . we will see how it goes. The admin/mods will decide on the nominations to be voted in. [someone has to do that]. The team will play in a 4-4-2 formation. So, the nominations for the greatest ever rovers goalkeeper are: 1 Harry Leyland 1956-1961 total app 188 2 Fred Else, 1961-1966 total app 221 3 Roger Jones 1970-1976 total app 277 4 Jim Arnold 1979-1981 total app72 5 Terry Gennoe 1981-1992 total app334 6 Tim Flowers 1993-1999 total app 214 England International 7 Brad Friedal 2000- still at club USA International These nominations are open for discussion for the next few days. After that, they will be put to a vote.

Nothing like a bit of optimism at the start of the season is there? I don't think we have the fire power to succeed at this level. So there you go, I'll be going into the west brom game expecting nothing out of it. I'll be pleasantly surprised if we win it.

1 Arsenal 2 Chelsea 3 Man U 4 Liverpool 5 Tottenham 6 Aston Villa 7 Newcastle 8 Middlesboro 9 Birmingham 10 Fulham 11 Man City 12 Portsmouth 13 Bolton 14 Charlton 15 West Brom 16 Southampton 17 Everton 18 Norwich 19 Blackburn R 20 Crystal Palace

Don't know how you're fixed now Abbey, West Brom have just terminated his contract!

Breaking news on SSN. He has been found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving.

No, I don't think he is over reacting. Al is one of our well respected posters and deserves a bit more consideration than he got.

Because we have just given our top striker away, can't find another one. So Yorke is now the saviour. It's certainly not because Dwight is suddenly a better player than the one he wanted rid of, is it?

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Don't even try 1864. I couldn't compete with that. Do whatever you want.

Brilliant stuff guys, thanks a lot.

Up we go.

Happy that the great Ronnie Clayton, ex captain of England, has finally got a vote.

Keep this at the top, give you all chance to vote.

I think we will give it a go Al. The only thing is - some of the players from years ago wont get a well deserved look in. Not enough people remember them. Should we put a limit on it, i.e. only players from the last 20 years? I don't think so, but it's up to you guys.

Well, you can write a recommendation for his inclusion in the list of nominations. [or have you just done that]?

Just another thought - what if we ran a poll on who was rovers best ever goalkeeper. Follow that with right back, left back and so on. Those discussions could run over a few months? Anyone find that idea interesting? At the end of that, we would end up with a brfcs.com best ever team and cult hero.

Of course, players of the 60's will be at a huge disadvantage in this poll. Not many of todays current members have seen these players perform. Maybe we should have had a second poll to see who the older members cult heroes were. I've voted for Bryan Douglas - an absolute genius.

Cult = adoration, worship. The question is, who is/was your cult hero. It doesn't have to be who you think was the best player, simply who did/do you worship in rovers colours?

I#ll sort one out later. I've not woke up yet.

Got mine a few weeks ago.

Not Mad dog Andy Kennedy.

and Elvis?

Can anyone think of another premiership manager, who would give their last season's top goalscorer away for free? Mugs.