1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said:

not knocking his ability but iv`e never seen a slower player,ever,he makes jim branagan look like usain bolt

Like running though quick sand. His legs move, but he doesn't really go forward...

I like Wharton. Good old fashioned hardy lad 

Classic us now is let them score against the run of play and give them confidence text book us....hope I'm wrong 

These look beatable need to take a chance 

JRC might be a decent footballer ,but I'm more athletic and faster and I'm 37 and haven't played astro in 2 years 

Brereton needs to be stronger 

Just now, simongarnerisgod said:

ayala has a problem with the ankle,thats him out for the season then🙄

Says calf on the rovers page , all the one

Buckley with an immediate stinker of a touch for no reason ,when we looked on our bike 

Just now, duckson said:

Robinson always does well against us, expect him to bag.

Good player 

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I think he’s more suited to centre half than Nyambe. If they managed to get Carroll jumping with Nyambe there’s only going to be one winner. In fact Carroll won’t have to jump.

Be the exact same or worse with Carter 

2 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

it might have escaped your attention but the transfer window was open for six weeks,a centre forward was essential,be it on loan or permanently

We signed one and he got injured. Hedges will also play there. Plus we have Gallagher, Brereton and Khadra 

1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Yep, sending Carter out on loan was a really smart move.

Carter isnt good enough at this level ,to be fair 

1 minute ago, garnersfags said:

Wow. He is sooooo desperate to play JRC, so at least he'll be happy with that, whatever the result. 

I would put Giles or Pickering in, much much better players. TM obv missed JRC's last game.

Such a shame, hard to be positive now, BUT I will be!

We MUST keep the ball better than we have since Xmas.

Big job, but doable. 

Ah Jesus to be fair JRC was the logical choice. Giles is left back and pickering hasn't played in ages 

Ayala has had months to get fit and into prime condition. This is crazy that he has let us down like this , before such a key game. Nyambe is gonna get destroyed there. We are going to be all over the shop mark my words 

Ayala injured in the warm up, what a useless lump

We are fucked. No way we will have the resilience to bounce back from this 

16 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

im`e amazed how far west brom have fallen away,they fair battered us early in the season,lets hope their malaise continues tonight

Just shows what a bad run if results can do to a clubs position. As we could find out over the next 3-4 games if we don't win tonight 

41 minutes ago, longsiders1882 said:

Hit and miss, didn’t have enough good games for us but couldn’t question his effort. Premier League maybe half a level too high, one of those real top championship players but not quite enough at the level above maybe. Not sure how old he is now but I think they’ve got a decent player if he’s maintained fitness etc - but hardly a world beater.

Interesting. I certainly haven't even seen that for Ireland, but yet he's always in the team 

11 minutes ago, longsiders1882 said:

That is a good point - and if McNeil, Weghorst, Corney leave we will get decent money in. 

The contract thing really is a result of the previous owners not investing in the squad for 3 or 4 years, the ones out of contract are largely not a great loss and Tarkowski made it clear he wouldn't sign a new one and we decided to allow his contract to run down. But the failure to bring new blood in each season, and I don't mean world beaters, just younger players who can do a job, means we are where we are, heading to the Championship and now with a big debt hung around our necks and a very threadbare squad.

If we stay up the job is arguably even bigger because even though we have more income to rely on we also would be looking at bigger fees and wages. Assuming you don't go up I will not be relishing the derby days at all.

Came up in another thread about Jeff Hendrick. A poster said QPR got a good signing there, I disagreed. Whats your view on him? 

6 minutes ago, longsiders1882 said:

 

Pre the sale I would have agreed. We had cash in the bank and parachute payments we could use. Not so much the case now. 10 players (I think) out of contract. Many are older but it would still be a big rebuild, Keeping Dyche would for me be vital, we have some decent defenders but would surely lose:

Tarkowski and Mee who are out of contract - and Tarky has already more or less said he's off even if we stay up. Mee will only stay if we stay up I think

Weghorst, Cornet, McNeill because they will get offers at top flight clubs, here and abroad. I'd be surprised if no one came in for Taylor and possibly Pope - though his poor distribution may make him less sought after.

Leaves us with potentially Pope, Roberts, Collins, Pieters, Brownhill, Westwood, Barnes - basically we are talking at least 1 starting centre half, 2 starting wide players or centre mids and one or two starting strikers if we go down. I don't think we will be bouncing back anywhere.

Ye will have a big budget for wages though

Thats crazy so many are out of contract and people think Rovers are particularly bad and unique in that regard....

Looked on their forum, they are very confident of a win 

20 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said:

Teams like us and Burnley eventually have a season when they get caught out.  It was / is just a matter of time before they get relegated.  

There's little joy in this scenario.

 

Keeping Dyche will then be the issue.

They had a very good run at it and will be well placed to bounce back with their squad , particularly if they keep Dyche 

45 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Not sure if correct  topic but...

Fulham away- 1230 KO and £35 a ticket.

Another potential good away following killed there!

 

Pricey, but if someone is willing to travel to London in the first place is a few pounds extra for a ticket really going to stop them?

38 minutes ago, longsiders1882 said:

 

It isn't true that if we were to win our games in hand we'd be bottom three - we would go above Watford, Norwich and Brentford. That said the simple reality is this, we probably need to win 8 from 17 having only won 1 from 21. So whilst still in our hands it is going to take something that just doesn't seem at all likely - we simply don't really look like scoring. We won't lose many but also won't win many either.

Whats Weghorst looking like?

2 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

Quick look at wiki, 68 caps! He wouldn’t have got near the Ireland squad twenty years ago.

Been a rough few years for you boys!

Fact. Matt Holland and Mark Kinsella who were decent squad players back then were twice the players he is. 

  I would go

                            Kaminski

            Van Hecke       Ayala      Wharton

Nyambe                                                 Giles (Pickering if fit)

                    Johnson         Travis

                              Rothwell

        Khadra                             Brereton

On 13/02/2022 at 00:00, JHRover said:

You may be partly referring to me here.

I am delighted Kaminski has signed and hopefully (we need it) more will follow.

I maintain my view that it is increasing wages that has been the issue here which is why those on lower end wages from their academy days - Lenihan, Nyambe - or those on League One figures - Rothwell - have been unable to secure the increase they seek whilst Gallagher and Kaminski - both likely to be on much bigger wages already - are probably happy to sign up for another couple of years on the same sort of cash.

I think Venkys have directed no pay increases or something similar which is why the deadlock on those on low wages who want paying a figure reflective of Championship regulars. A percentage increase which is probably incompatible with the 'structure' Venkys are driving.

So Gallagher and Kaminski are on a certain amount lets say out of thin air, cos none of us know, 18 and 15 grand a week respectively. Lenihan, Nyambe and Rothwells and their agents believe they will get more than this(or what we are offering them, because maybe the club isn't offering Nyambe more, but I would imagine Lenihan is at least being offered what Gallagher is on) if A-we get promoted or B-They continue playing well and get a move to someone who will pay more than our wage cap will allow. Lenihan and Rothwell might get those deals and you throw in a signing on fee and maybe even Nyambe will. 

In good contract negotiations, the organisation needs to have a line in the sand or you will just foster an atmosphere of contempt and whispers of who is actually on what. 

Time will tell if the players and their agents are correct.  Positively for the club, they need to perform at a high standard for that to happen. Then they also may need to consider do they move a to a club who is less competitive than us, but pay more, or a club where they may not be a key player. 

It's not as simple as the club just throw money at them