Yes, two of the worst loans I've seen us make. We should demand our money back! Van Hecke looks quality through. Khadra is talented but we haven't really figured out what to do with him yet.

Only saw the second half - sounds like I missed the good bit of the game..! Most encouraging thing was Van Hecke and Edun both look defensively solid. Poveda is absolutely atrocious. Surely Butterworth would be a better bet? Or give McBride a whirl?

Defence looking very very makeshift. Derby will fancy us on out wide and at set pieces. Would have thought Van Hecke RB and Carter central would be more solid?

Yeah, but I worry that our counter attacking game which is pretty decent won't really work, we'll be looking for him to feed off Brereton and Gallagher much further up which doesn't fill me with confidence.

Really surprised you say that about Dack. Swap Rothwell out for Dack and my guess is we will really struggle to get forward. Rothwell does so much in carrying the ball and covering ground which Dack just won't do after 2 ACLs.

After 2 ACLs Dack is not going to be mobile. Only place he will playing for us I think is false 9 or number 10.

Wouldn't fancy Nyambe to play on the left. He's so one footed, and much of his game is about going round players on the outside right. I don't think he could do that on the left. Edun already looks a handy player to me. Nothing spectacular but seems to do everything pretty well. Interested to see how he develops.

Some fan favourites he does share the love for - eg. Dack, Lenihan. Also he stuck with Brereton when many wrote him off (me included) and was proven right.. Maybe his assessment is Rothwell and Nyambe need a "treat em mean keep em keen" type of man management. But seeing as they haven't signed if this is the philosophy it hasn't really worked.

Wow! Brutal. Bizarre as well as while Rothwell is maybe learning CM he has been way better than many we've had in there under Mowbray (Smallwood, Bennett etc). He's had games in centre mid over the last two seasons where he has been brilliant. Seems a bit of a cheap dig by Mowbray as he feels Rothwell not signing is embarrassing him. That said obviously Mowbray doesn't rate Rothwell as highly as he should be, and that is weird. Same with Nyambe. But the ultimate root is Venkys have just decided to minimise budgets which is very short sighted considering they are going to lose a lot of assets for cheap prices.

Some sort of plan to get the clubs back under fan ownership needs to be worked out. I can see a political party putting it in their platform in a few years.

Bet Danny Drinkwater wishes now he'd stuck with Leicester.

Eduns actually right footed I think so seems an obvious choice.

Just watched the game back, thought we were really good tbh. We could have scored four or five, Reading only created a single decent chance which Puskas should have scored. Considering we had a few injuries a good result. Dolans going to be one of the best players in the Championship in the next year or two. Once he sorts his decision making out he's going to be very hard to stop. Absolutely rinsed their backline. What is so admirable about him is, despite obviously being the most technically talented player we have, he is also the biggest grafter. He's just relentless. Also thought Edun and Van Hecke did well. Gallagher had a very good game also. We do have a pretty good team. Wharton and JRC nearly back. It's the hope that kills you right?

Great work @only2garners! Watched the game back just now. Really appreciate it 🙂

Didn't see the game today, see they are now doing full game replays so will watch it back. But Dolan for me is going to have a very good career. Reminds me of King - someone who has his faults but can score and create so will kick on. A player who can do that well while still so young is very rare.

Really don't get Clarkson - he's terrible. Want him to do well, but just a total non entity. Butterworth has looked lively for me. Not too worried about him. I'd swap Clarkson for Buckley at HT. But as we are back down to 3 subs maybe we need to wait in case of any injuries.

Hmmmm..... Is this : Kaminski Van Hecke. Ayala. Lenihan Nyambe. Travis. Edun. Pickering Clarkson Butterworth. Brereton ?

On his general play id agree, but his goals to game ratio is outstanding. Sometimes you've got to put opinions aside and say the boys doing exceptionally well. Thats where the criticism of Mowbray needs to be checked. He's brought in a guy who most thought was terrible and hes now top scorer in the Championship (straight after Armstrong who was similar criticised). Rough with the smooth, Mowbray has found some decent players.

Its probably the biggest turnaround I've ever seen following Rovers. Two years ago he was abject, really poor, now he's our best player and the Championship too scorer. Why that is is quite hard to figure out. He's not really playing in any substantially different way. Just seems more confident, and he is physically stronger than he was, and getting in the box.

I'm not blaming Mowbray. Mowbray found him on the cheap and he's been a good player for us. I just think he is likely to continue to do well at other clubs and keep growing, despite being relatively old as you say. Sometimes players need a move to kick on.

Rothwell has got the ingredients to suggest he could be a Prem player. Quick, good technique, can breeze past players, when he gets his head up passes well. He's a very complete player. Reminds me a lot of Cairney and Josh King who were both obviously talented, had good but not consistent careers with Rovers, left and really kicked on.

If Rangers are interested and can pay the wages I'm sure Rothwell is gone. Bad news. Also Saturday showed we desperately need right back cover. Nyambe, JRC and the new Brighton chap all seem to have big injury issues.

It's genuinely one of the most obscure mysteries I've ever encountered. I can't think of anything similar. They should have left ages ago. I guess maybe they think about walking away every year but then - kind of like a gambling addict - they think if we can fluke it into the prem they get all their money back? Who knows. Anyway personally I am now at the point even if they were happy to burn £20M per year indefinitely it's better if they just go. If we have to take administration we just take that on the chin and build back under fan ownership. Weve got a pretty competitive team in parts atm, and a pretty good manager despite his many faults, undoubtedly when we go into admin we will get much worse of both and spend a decent amount of time in League One, but without a proper owner who can align everything properly we are not going to move forward. It's got to get worse before it gets better.

To be fair we should have scored right at the end, stone cold tap in. Dolans looked decent. If we get one back then game on. Got to take Magloire off, its clear he hasn't got any confidence in himself let alone the confidence of his team mates. Really terrible defensive options on the bench. I would say maybe we bring Johnson on and go 3412 to try and matchup Kaminski Carter. Ayala. Johnson Buckley. Travis. Edun. Pickering Rothwell Dolan. Brereton. Such a makeshift side.

Magloire cannot come out second half.