To be honest I think JDT is suffering very severely in the fans eyes because he doesn't seem to be doing anything about it. If results were the same, but we were more defensive and not committing players forward etc, then I think the fans would be more focussed on the fact we have signed a really poor keeper and no strikers. Theyd see the manager is responding to the situation but needs help. But that we continue to play the ultra open way we are when shipping 2+ goals every game and losing virtually every one means that all the focus is - quite rightly - on him.

Brittain, Hyam, Carter, Pickering are all decent players. Think if we imported Lenihan, Bell, Nyambe anyone into this system when confidence is low and with a terrible keeper theyd get hammered. The issue is we are trying to play champagne 424 football when we are conceding 4 goals every week. Its absolute lunacy.

If we think we were just as good as them then we have even bigger problems. There have been times this season when we have been just as good and be unlucky to lose. But today we were utterly thrashed without WBA getting out of second gear. They could have scored 6, 7, 8. We, I think, maybe only had 2 decent opportunities outside the one we scored from. They carved us open at will. That we are saying that its not the tactics or the approach just individual mistakes alone is just daft. Passing the ball around the middle third a bit without creating chances is not being "just as good as them". He'll be gone pretty soon I think.

Youd imagine Sweden would be thinking "we need a manager who can galvanise a team and get then organised, competitive and solid against superior opposition " Can't imagine JDT ticks many boxes

I suspect he genuinely thinks its the right thing to do and results will turn around. Often happens when someone is committed to a particular ideology - when things aren't working its seen not that things need to change, instead what is required is more of the same

Well, if that is his approach to management - to let the team lose out of spite - he will have a short and unremarkable career.

Its a shame really as JDT has a lot going for him in terms of developing players and style when things are going well. But if you cant defend or compete when you go behind you are toast. Would love to see a number of points won from losing positions stat. JDT must have one of the worst ever.

I cant see JDT resigning. Compensation aside future potential employers will remember your last job the most and to leave now will close doors to him. Lambert resigned early enough to get away with it, JDT looks at the moment like a total incompetent. What decent club would touch him? On the other hand I can see us sacking him. That we dont seem to be responding in any way to the huge amount of goals conceded must be concerning people across the club. Theyve now seen the financial impact of league one, so I can see changes happening if we cant turn it around in the next three games.

Yeah agreed - the defence is not really a personnel issue for me. Obviously the players have weaknesses but on the whole a reasonable set of players the keeper aside. Were rock bottom on confidence, conceding a ludicrous amount of goals, yet every time we go forward we commit 8 players forward and ask two cbs to handle any counter. Its not sensible. That on top of a keeper who is absolutely hopeless. We have to switch focus and start thinking how we can concede less chances.

Has anyone ever seen a combination of defending terribly for game after game yet the management not doing anything to help the defence? Its so bizarre.

Well he hasn't got much care for his own career if he is playing this way against his will.

Eh? They've completely battered us!

Garretts funny, looked for all the world a Travis style defensive mid, but hes got a lot if attacking quality about him. Good technique, makes clever runs.

Only real positive for me is Garrett looks a good player. Feel like he will be a very solid Championship player.

Usually I would agree, but that we are not adapting how we play is a huge worry for me. Ive never seen a team in such a long bad run continuing to play with so little defensive focus. It could get us relegated.

Focus more on defending and defensive shape, be more about not conceding early than throwing players forward. Like any manager, including Mowbray in the depths of a death spiral, would do.

The total lack of emphasis on defending is the main issue. 3-0, getting absolutely battered by long straight balls and were still committing 7-8 players to an attack. Its a bit juvenile to be honest. Sort of like we're scrappy doo.

Feels to me that we could end up sacking JDT. If you get beat easily and the coach doesn't change anything what choice do you have?

It would seem almost perverse to play the only full back we have at right wing... but stranger things have happened. JDT does seem to prefer Brittain further forward.

Id be surprised - JDT likes his passers in the middle 2 and his pressers in the front 4

Ah or could still be the ultra attacking 4231 like this Leo Carter. Hyam. S Wharton. Brittain Tronstad. A Wharton Moran. Garrett. Sigurdsson Leonard Given we haven't really changed away from four at the back all season more likely to be this I think.

Looks 343 to me? Leo Carter. Hyam. S Wharton Brittain. Tronstad. A Wharton. Garrett Moran. Leonard. Sigurdsson Attacking wise it doesn't give confidence but maybe will be a bit more robust defensively.

Thats' fascinating... I think we have around 16th most away fans turnout on average.. so obviously there is an upturn in away fans at game generally?

Based on JDTs comments I cant see JRC making the bench. I am pretty sure that we will go 4231 (424 more accurately, as Szmodics plays as a striker really) like you have there but maybe with Leonard up front as he scored. If it was up to me Id get Garrett in there to give us some more bite in the tackle. Maybe just go 433 and drop Telalovic / Leonard for him. Leo Brittain. Carter. Hyam. Pickering Garrett. Tronstad Wharton Moran. Szmodics. Sigurdsson This is the sort of game we look like we will lose on paper but often get a result from.

Well he went on to have a good career in the Prem. But looking back at the amount of goals he scored with us (8...) probably I was a bit too effusive in saying he was one of our best strikers!