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Yeah, really get the impression that Ismael and Gueye dislike one another. Shame as on his day Gueye is absolutely unplayable. Need to unlock that.

If we can't offer Dolan a decent contract I dont think we are paying a £5M fee.

I doubt we can match the highest bidder who now comes along... As soon as he didnt sign 18 months ago we were buggered. Our main leverage is an early renewal so the player be tempted by a immediate significant bump in wages and more job security. Once their past 18 months holding on till the end of their contract gets more more attractive. That we didnt tie someone like Dolan down who is young, has obvious potential, rarely injured, already reasonable stats and we got for nothing from the PNE academy is just completely and utterly stupid.

It's all so Championship.... completely mental. Once you take out the parachute clubs the correlation between net money spent and where you finish in the league is pretty low. Lots of teams that spend big are at the bottom, and lots of clubs who spend bugger all are around the playoffs. It gives you hope that if we can bin off Venkys and get a local coalition we can still be competitive.

Hedges has been decent recently.. best form hes had last few games

Really remarkable win when you consider how rarely we get 3 points after going behind.

We look really organised and snappy through the middle , night and day compared to Ismael's first few games. Been definitely the better side but not really made it count that much in good chances. I thought Ismael was absolutely hopeless after five games but we do seem to be much much better now. Press is working, passing is pretty tidy, players seem very motivated and energised. I am not really sure why exactly.

Yeah... Im very skeptical of Premier League players coming down to the Championship anyway. More likely than not to be poorly motivated and not focussed, and on top of that very expensive. If you add a long layoff not playing its an obvious problem. Id be quite happy for us to never sign a senior premier league player again.

To answer my own question I found this... parachute clubs are not excluded, but I suppose an assumption can be made that they roughly net out year on year. So it does suggest that overall wage inflation is not a big issue in last 5 years. Big jump in 2024 but thats not going to impact us as we didn't sign any new contracts in that year... otherwise flat/declining. I agree that it is very hard to understand how our wage bill has stayed roughly the same over last 5 years when we have gone to as extreme lengths as letting established players run out of contract and signing no established premier league or even top half championship players in the last 5 years. Is this a question that has been raised with the club by the fans forum etc? It does seem very suspicious.

I wonder if general wage inflation is an issue... Do any stattos have a link to a graph of how the average wage bill in the Championship has increased over the last 5 years? It would be ideal if there was a way to exclude parachute clubs.

Hah - read it as elliott bennett my bad! Yes Harvey Elliott was great, would obviously take him!

I am not sure I would be taking that squad as an example... Out of that list I'd take Kaminski, Harwood-Bellis, Armstrong and Brereton out those. Mulgrew by that time was a total liability, Elliott poor, Ayala constantly injured, Downing struggling in his second season, Branthwaite poor, Dack had done his cruciate in 2019 and was out for a year, and never a decent player again. Really I haven't seen much variation in the quality of the squad since we have been in the Championship. Some decent players some poor players season after season. Good enough to finish mid table somewhere.

Great bit of analysis this... Second half of season form absolutely abysmal for seven seasons now. There has to be some reason for that. Poor january windows and a small squad are the obvious candidates... but I am not that convinced that other non parachute teams that have made the play offs have had that much better windows or bigger squads (Coventry, Luton, Huddersfield, Barnsley, Sunderland etc).

Agreed the winger was well past him and he pulled his arm, it was a yellow card. But then there were a lot of similar infractions the ref didnt give cards for, so a confusing referee performance.

To me he looked all at sea every time a cross came in. Not confident in him at all as much as I want him to do well.

Good win, Ohashi was really excellent, everyone else did their jobs without standing out too much. We looked reasonably coherent tactically for the first time. Montgomery probably just about deserved to go off by the book, but also if yellows are that soft there should have been half a dozen more in that game. Seemed unbalanced. That said we were a bit lucky we didnt concede a penalty from Baath elbow so we can't complain too much. Its a bit negative after a win but have to say Gueye was absolutely abysmal after he came on. I am a huge fan of his but his effort was so poor, body language all wrong, wasteful when he had a lot of space. Seemed very demotivated despite us having a slender lead to defend and the team working so hard. No real evidence for it but I can see him and Ismael not being each others cup of tea ...

I dont think waggott and suhail have that sort of financial control, but theres not really a way to orive that so we will have to disagree I suppose.

What I found funny/alarming on the Arte Laboure Podcast with Gestede is he was saying "we want a more attractive attacking style of football" and that was a factor appointing Ismael.... what got me was 1) defence was obviously the heart of how we achieved this season and our entire system was built around defending the box. Pears, Hyam, Travis, Brittain, Pickering all looked totally transformed in confidence and we were so good sitting in. Why would you bin that? 2) Ismael has actually made our attack worse... So we have managed to destroy our decent defence, giving away ludicrous early goals game after game. And now offer even less threat.

Well I would say the bigger issue than Waggot, Suhail etc (though they are clowns and I would heartily like them all to leave) is I doubt they have a clue whats going on themselves. We could bring back John Williams but ultimately he would be working with ownership who are unavailable and unengaged so any clarify about the future is totally unachievable. In those circumstances how does anyone succeed. Really without Venkys going everything else is meaningless in my opinion.

Because essentially the same squad has been right up in the playoff push in two out of the last three seasons, and flirted with it under Mowbray too. There are obvious weaknesses in the team but it can compete as it has shown in the right conditions with the right leadership. The cardinal sins are not really about money. It has been utterly disillusioning two successful managers so they leave mid season, most recently totally derailing a well performing teams. That isn't fundamentally about budgets or investment - though that is a factor - it's about the chaos and mismanagement derived from our ludicrous ownership arrangement. Irrespective of financials we need clear engagement, communication and planning which the owners just cannot provide. WE NEED THEM GONE.

Would help talent development too as creates a big incentive for teams lower down the pyramid to play youth.

The rules need to be addressed somehow. Smaller clubs are getting absolutely ransacked. Theres got to a be a win-win found for the clubs and the players. I dont think its unreasonable for young players to be treated like senior players if they are designated as a senior prospect and compensated to a certain level, with rules around the club losing this protection if they dont get a certain number of minutes in the league for the club or something.

On the Arte Laboure podcast Gestede was stressing that we need to get academy players into the team and that there was disappointment that Eustace used so few youngsters. Question I have is who is ready for first team? Tyjon I suppose will be in and around. Anyone else any posters can see getting over a couple of hundred first team minutes next season?

Agreed, the madness here was offering him such a long deal. What would make sense is when offering a contract to a manager is to have points clause where if a certain low number of points accrued activates a mutual termination if not hit (say an average of under a point a game over 30 games). I know a decent manager wouldn't go for it, but if we can't afford to sack managers then we have to be going for a model like that and take a risk on someone who accepts it. Tieing ourselves to long contracts with no exit is not something we can accept. All I can hope is we have something like that in place, and that offering such a long deal is the result of having a safeguard like that as part of the arrangement...

Yeah this is what worries me... Football is a game of fine margins, you can play well but lose frequently and vice versa. So what's important to peer into what the future looks like is not really individual results, its more does the organisation, patterns of play, level of effort and commitment look like it will be effective at creating chances going forward and stopping chances being conceded defensively. Ismael looks the most concerning on the above since Coyle. Soft touch for goals, nothing really working in midfield and attack. He also looks personally confused and lost about what to do which is even more damning.