9 hours ago, benhben said:

19. JDT contract - it is a 3 year deal with no talks of a new contract planned at this stage, he is ambitious. We asked why JDT thinks he was sold a pup?  He reiterated that its the same job as its always been with no pressure on league position. Its always been about developing and trading regardless of financial restrictions this summer.

I cant get my head around why any club and CEO would state this to the manager and fans. There is literally no point in turning up if this is the case unless you see the entire clubs existence as nothing more than a business to make some money.

Sooner this guy is out the better.  Cant tell me Ipswich etc have a much bigger income than us yet somehow seem to have ambition. 

The craziest thing in all of this, is how would developing a couple of players now and then, make more financial sense than having a couple of seasons in the premier league? As we all know, we have been in touching distance at least twice, at Christmas, in the last couple of years, yet managed to blow any chance, by not getting the window right. 
Last seasons fiasco, seems to fly in the face of the narrative, unless the O’Brien attempted signing was a red herring. Why go for him and why offer to sign him permanently, if we went up, if the only ambition we have would be to develop him and sell him on.

Someone seems to be sending out contradictory messages here, but what for?

2 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

If TM’s agent had happened to have wrangled an extra two years on his deal he’d still be here now.

This is the only club that just doesn’t sack managers. Just once (and that was that total clown with the head tennis and doughnuts training sessions) in eight years.

We have sacked a few actually. Coyle, Berg, Appleton, and the twit you mentioned, wasn't sacked, he resigned and sued the club.

43 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

It’s all transactional to Swag. Very simple equation, he knows he will hit his financial target with 8/9k buying at £400/£500, he can’t be certain that he can still hit it by selling more under £300.

So why take a risk? More bums on seats? Better atmosphere? Why does he care about that? Sounds like too much hard work, think of the extra stewards and cleaners!

yet again, the owners are to blame, as you are bang on the money with this.

We as supporters and real custodians of the club, have an interest in increasing the fan base again and dropping the prices and offering other incentives, is the way to go.

With targets being monetary, set by the owners and Waggott knowing only too well, that the real loyal fans (who can also afford it) will pay the excessive prices, it just puts the very future of the club in more peril.

He will sail off into the sunset, with his pension and nest egg nicely tucked away and will not care on iota of what happens to the club, after his departure. 

That's a brilliant post by Glen and I admire them for attending the meeting and for getting the answers they did.

I also had a meeting with Waggott, which I think was earlier the same day. Mine lasted for about an hour and I found him to be a bit like a politician, padding out answers and maybe avoiding a couple too.

I did not get anything like the amount of information that Glen and Mark did, but can point out a couple of contradictions he gave to them in his answers compared to mine.

He made out that the funding re received, keeps us afloat until February and suggested that the court had now set a precedent and therefore would be unlikely to not allow future funding. he did got to great lengths too, in suggesting how he had to provide a statement for all outstanding commitments and had to provide a precise breakdown of exactly what the funding was for.

I pressed very hard about fans being priced out of buying season tickets and suggested a HUGE marketing plan was put in place for the 150th anniversary, suggesting a 20% cut in season ticket prices and a big drive to get lapsed season ticket holders to return. He did not like the suggestion of the drop in prices.

I also put it to him, that I believe Venky's have something to hide and that is the reason they remain. He refuted that and would not be drawn into a debate about the initial takeover and my suggestion that the fall from the premier league was a managed catastrophe. He insisted that Venky's are proud people and remained in situ for that reason, more than anything else. I did suggest that now was the perfect tine for them to put the club up for sale and bow out gracefully, as they have the much publicised problems now with the illegal payment from 2010 to date story and on going problems and adverse publicity, that is clearly bringing. They have no way of getting back, what they have put in, so why not put the cub up for sale now and cut their losses. Who in their right mind would carry on under these circumstances?

One other thing to mention was that he almost seemed resigned to losing JDT and I am now even more convinced that there is a rift between them that cannot be repaired. 

I would much rather SWAG was given his notice now than JDT.

1 hour ago, Mike Graham said:

Superb this guys and makes me really proud to be a fellow supporter.

6 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He's started 6 games and been subbed on in 7 (basically he's played 34% of our total minutes and has 5 goal contributions).

My worry about Leonard is his finishing - I don't know if he's clinical enough. I do think he'll have a long career as a professional though. 

I have high hopes for Leonard and think once he gets used to playing in the first team, he will be more composed and that will help him finish with more aplomb.

I don't think for one minute, he will turn into the legend he is, but a listen to the excellent podcast with Simon Garner and the lads, has Simon telling the story of how he turned down a move to Halifax. Had he not decide it was not for him, we would have lost him, before he got started.

I knew about him turning down a move, but what I didn't know, was the rift that caused between him and Howard Kendal (RIP) and hoe he only got back into the side due to an injury crisis.

For anyone who might have the owners ears, let them know the fans are doing a better job than the CEO of promoting the club. Perhaps a takeover of the whole operation instead of a match, could be the way forward. 

1 hour ago, tomphil said:

There are players to consider both at the club and potential signings as well as an anxious fanbase and inevitable journo questions to field.

So yet again giving the impression that it isn't a future priority or he even gives a fuck isn't a good vibe at all.

His answer at least has to be that's something we'll be discussing in due course or next summer or the like.  The answer he did give leads us right to where we are here, asking why it isn't a priority to at least at some point explore the possibility of an extension even if it comes to nothing.

Imo Waggot will be happy to downgrade again to someone even rawer and cheaper i don't think for one min he'll present JDT with a contract he'd feel was worthwhile signing.

 

I'm pretty sure most fans are happy with JDT and I would hope that the powers that be are too, be that Waggott, the owners representatives, or the owners.

I think he has got most things right and his style of football is certainly a joy to watch, especially now that we seem to be getting more things right at both ends of the pitch.

If we simply let JDT run his contract down and go to succeed elsewhere, it would be a crying shame. If Waggott and him have fallen out (which I think is highly likely) then once again, the fans are being sold short.

They guy should be backed as much as possible and given an offer he can't refuse to extend his stay.

Getting a proper answer out of Waggott is proving to be a difficult task. A reply saying nothing has been agree is all well and good, but what about, has an offer been made to him, to extend his contract?

I fear that JDT is now pretty unhappy and the comments he makes almost weekly now appear to be a dig at him. 

That article in the LT blames the changes in tax rules in India for lack of funding. It then goes on to say that Venky’s had to go to court to get the £11m released to send to the club. I am reliably informed that this will last us until February. At that point it is “hoped” that a precedent has been set and the funds required to keep us afloat until the end of the season are released, but what if they are not.

A recent article in the Indian press (a link to which has previously been posted on here) points out that illegal payments have been made by Venky’s from 2010 to date. Maybe that as opposed to tax changes has reduced the funding. 

As most know on here, property has been seized by the Enforcement Directorate, that Venky’s own in India. Given that article does not have an alleged in it and also says 2010 to date, my worry is that there are still on going questions being asked about the funding.

It may not be as straightforward as it sounds getting more funding released, which would lead to some really big issues.

Bragging about paying wages on time and buying a new bus, could well have a hidden message. 

I know for a fact that given that the whole of the Darwen end would sell out, despite the £47 per ticket meant it was more important that the £150K to be made on this, was more important than a cheaper ticket for the away fixture for Rovers fans.

I was told categorically that “We could not afford to discount the tickets and lose £40K”. 

I won’t be using my season long pass until I get back to Spain next Monday.

I have Re-Registered but find it incredible that I had to find out how to on here.

It’s another big own goal by the club, not getting the communication on this right. 

Terrific this and a great opportunity to show the decision makers at the club, that they have the pricing wrong. Get the match day and season ticket prices right and we will get supporters back. 

All looks okay to me now, having Re-registered.

It is easier to log in now too, so hopefully the problems we have encountered are a thing of the past.

Good luck logging on for those watching form abroad tomorrow (which I normally do from Spain) but I am back for a few days, so will be there in person tomorrow.

COYB.

I couldn’t name 50 prem players never mind 95% of them. 

26 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

I will donate £100 to any charity if Chaddy does a video where he reels off 450 premier league players without looking at Google. 

Make that £100 from me too. No chance. 

In a lot of ways, the premier league are largely to blame for what is going on here. How can they introduce financial fair play, but then effectively allow states to own certain clubs.

Just using Newcastle, as an example, they are owned by the Saudi Arabian public investment fund, who in turn own 4 teams in the Saudi pro league. There is no financial fair play in that league.

It has already been rumored that they will start to loan players from those clubs and that is already being scrutinised. 
Should they start to look like falling foul of FFP they could simply sell one of their current players to one of those clubs for an inflated price and ensure it is enough to bring them back in line. 
When you look at the premier league accepting Abramovic and his money (which now appears to be from dubious means) as fit and proper, you have to say they have made a rod for their own backs. In truth if the likes of City and Chelsea were properly investigated it would be thank you and good night to both of them, if they got a proportionate penalty. 

Where this ends who knows, but both Leicester and Burnley are both seeking compensation from the premier league and who knows who else will jump onto the bandwagon. It is one hell of a mess. 

1 hour ago, JohnD said:

IF he stays long enough and they continue to back him with £100m per transfer window I think VK will get them established in the PL eventually.

It's a big IF.

There is no way in this world that they will back him with £100m per transfer window.

I expect very little inward activity in January.

15 hours ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Yeah, you only realise how crippling it can be when you’ve had a taste yourself. I went through a rough time after my divorce but I’m back in control now - I think. There are things more important than football rivalries.

I’ve been through a divorce myself so know how that feels. It’s very trying and would test the resolve of the most positive of people.

Its very tough to live through certain things and I wish the clarets lad all the best. There are certainly much more important things in life than football rivalries, as you say.

It’s a common fault that with the website. I understand it is currently being upgraded, so that will hopefully sort it out. 

4 minutes ago, philipl said:

Meeting all contractual obligations.

Suggests Rovers generated funds are free to be used elsewhere.

It seems we were very close to the edge without this £11.5 million coming in. The closure of the Blackburn end was down to cashflow, so that's how serious this is. 

16 minutes ago, white boy said:

I think you may be confused what i was looking to suggest in maybe a poor manner was that it TAKES two to tango, ie you may well have won more and more important trophies but without others you would win nothing.  So to make it more simple what i am saying is that its all about the competition itself.

Also could i suggest that history is a matter of opinion for example if i were a dingle i could look back and suggest that Burnley over the last decade have been the most successful team in Lancashire.  I suppose it depends on what agenda to push.

 

My agenda is  i am an old preston boy who supports his home town team and any glory or lack of it does not stop me attending home and away to support my team.    It doesn't matter to me if we are in non league i will still be going........

I have to say, I admire the fact that you support your local team and place of birth. That's exactly why I support the Rovers.

From at he age of seven I was taken to a game, when we were in the old third division and have loved the club ever since.

I grew up with some of my school friend supporting the likes of Leeds, Liverpool and Man U despite all of them being Blackburn lads, so never quite understood it.

I can proudly say, I am a Blackburn lad and have not got my son and Grandson both following the club and hopefully both still will, long after my passing.

There is nothing wrong with supporting your home town team and fair play for you coming on here and saying so,

Enjoy the match tonight.

13 minutes ago, JHRover said:

So £1.8 million, over 10% of the total cash being sent over from India, coming in as 'agent fee (commission)'

Seems excessive to me.

I do wonder if that's agents commission for players, or maybe for the bridging loan. It seems far too high to be for players.

4 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Subbed off on 66 minutes tonight with Villareal losing 1-0. They are 2-1 up now !

The lad who came on for him, scored their equalizer. Brereton has still not scored a single goal.