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43 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said:

I said it at the time and will say it again, any appointment after Eustace left us should have been for the 12 remaining games and play offs. Irrespective of whether it was to be David Lowe, Damian Johnson, Big Sam, Steven Gerrard or even Jurgen Klopp, there was never any business sense to making a long-term appointment, until after the season had played out. Our position in the play off places offered a perfect opportunity to construct a highly incentivised short term arrangement for a results driven name or keep it in house at little cost until outcomes were known. As it is the stooges somehow managed to bring in a dud on a long-term deal and make a very expensive mistake ! 

It has to be one of the craziest decisions of this ownership and let’s face it, there have been plenty.

I know we are unlikely to get an answer, but Waggott need to explain why was that 12 games with a big incentive, if achieved, not taken advantage of? Surely it was a one off opportunity, where a real top class appointment was on the cards, albeit a short term one. 

34 minutes ago, KentExile said:

or this gem from the story linked below

 

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25048398.portsmouth-boss-mousinho-win-blackburn-rovers/#comments-anchor

 

Indian Rover 74 hrs ago

 

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Stop being partisan and dividing Rovers. We are a small club so our players sense division and inner turmoil. Also by the gods, why do you blame the backroom staff!!! they have done a commendable job working off scraps by Waggot. Do we not realise Waggot is doing his job and ensuring Rovers security on the books. If you want to point the finger then look at Venkys court case. They are delusional yet injected max capital within FFP rules every year. Now they are embroiled in Govt saga. This is what aggrieves me, with them not being transparent about plans They were delusional when taking over Rovers and got milked by Kean, SEM/Kentaro and vultures at the start. After they have been our lifeline in funding and committing to Rovers. Anyway point fingers at Venkys this year not our backroom staff. Venky's had my support but this season the silence is getting to me hence why we need to appreciate Waggot conserving funds if the worst scenario happens with Venkies withdrawing funding

That makes about as much sense as the managers tactics. 

1 hour ago, arbitro said:

I have been watching football a long time and like to think I have some grasp on the game but yesterday confused me like never before. If anybody (I'm sure somebody will try) to explain what positions Woodrow and Ohashi were then you are a better man than me. The shape of the team in forward positions was so disjointed. At times players were making the same runs, going for the same balls and generally not where they should have been to cause Portsmouth problems.

So much for two weeks on the training ground.

Rovers right now was summed up by a farcical situation when Beck got injured. Although it was at the other end of the ground it looked serious and the doctor and physio were treating him. A stretcher was summoned and got half way on the pitch when Beck got up really gingerly and didn't look right. He was helped around the perimeter of the pitch clearly distressed and went down the tunnel.

This incident lasted several minutes and the game restarts with us having only ten men as Hedges wasn't ready to come on. Even at the next stoppage he didn't come on as he was still doing his laces.

It would be embarrassing if it happened this morning at Pleasington.

The lack of confidence in the vast majority of players is apparent. A few months ago some of these players were playing arguably the best football of their Rovers careers and now they look awful. Eustace squeezed every drop out of this squad but Ismael seems to have done the opposite. 

Set pieces have become embarrassing offering not even the merest hint of a threat. The passing and movement has dissipated and we are so easy to play against. Yesterday we were so deep and disjointed at times we invited Portsmouth to exploit the gaps. As soon As we went one down the majority of Rovers fans feared the worst.

I honestly don't know where we go from here now. The manager has a long contract but honestly does seem to be struggling with even the most basic aspects of football management.

I think we have been watching football for a similar amount of time and like you, I can’t work out, what the hell this guy is trying to do.

Sadly, the people who decided to appoint him, will stick with him, as the compensation is likely to affect them financially. 
There is no shape to the team, no passion, no fluidity and there also seems to be a lack of effort.

I would imagine the players are as baffled by him as the fans and my only hope is, that somehow, he won’t last beyond this season, as it is terrifying to think how bad this will get, if he is allowed to bring in his own players and we start next season with him in charge. 

I am now at the point of wondering, if this appointment was on the basis of, let’s see if we can piss the fans even more. Snowball revenge at its best.

Find an out of work manager, with the most abysmal record we can in his most recent roles, give him as long a contract as we can and if he can speak French, even better.

Get him to write a letter to the fans introducing himself, then really shove it up them, by playing shit football, win no games, but keep him in situ, for as long as we can.

That will show them. 

As a bonus, set the season ticket prices at at level that brings in just enough revenue to pay his compensation, when even we have to sack him, for his record, which will be the worst in the clubs history, by the time he is done.

12 minutes ago, roverblue said:

To sum up how bad an appointment this is…to now get rid of him would either cost our entire summer transfer budget or (more likely and even worse) we have to sell a player to pay his compensation.

Well done Gestede, I’m fairly sure this was your appointment. 
 

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I agree, it was Gestede who strongly influenced this.

Its done now and even though people are still saying it’s early days, it’s a disaster this now and the longer he remains, the worse this will get.

I think Waggott is now using the Trust, in every sense of the word.

He is referring to constructive meetings, in his spiel defending himself against the latest uprising.

I think a statement needs to be made very quickly to explain why the trust are not backing the latest rebellion, or I fear the end. Not enough is being done to make life uncomfortable and the original intentions, are shot down now, when you look at what it was all about from the off. 

3 minutes ago, roverstdt said:

I don't blame Big Val he was offered a job and took the opportunity. The problem is way way way above. 

 

Steve Waggot, Suhail Pasha, Rudy Gestede this is unacceptable. I don't care losing and I don't care about mid table I just want simple thing passion desire and fight. None of that has occured. We are a shambles a to me a Protest MUST MUST MUST go ahead. 

He was probably appointed to make the people running the club competent. He is the worst appointment we could have gone for.

No shape, no direction, no effort, no blood sweat or tears.

Pathetic. 

1 minute ago, Ferrit said:

Are we rock bottom of the form table yet?

Yep last 6 

48 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Its a coalition of fans including you,  collectively we need to work together to find the right solution 

It’s hard to believe that question was asked. 
The skill set within the fan base in incredible and there are plenty, who would do a far better job than Waggott and they have Blue and White blood. 

29 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

Venkys and their acolytes absolutely coordinate the shit that gets said on there.

I've seen things on there that are very specific responses to some of the musings on here that can only be from someone involved inside the club or venky organisation.

Then there was that time when someone noticed about four or five posts all within a few minutes of each other saying the same guff, all posted around 4am GMT.

Or put another way, around 10.00am in India.

7 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

We are nearly there, some fantastic collaboration from the working group.

Was a late one last night with many working away until 3 am to try and finalise the launch.

We've had discussion with trusted media contacts who like the approach and its 100% positive feedback from them, and they will run with this.

Around 70 media outlets will be contacted and we need everyone to play their part by sharing around social media, whatsapp etc.

The common thing that binds us all together is our love for our club.

 

"Enough is enough"

Will it hit the Indian press Glen?

1 hour ago, alex l said:

Interesting article in the LT on ST prices across the division. Rovers pretty much have the cheapest or one of the cheapest offerings in each category. It doesn't take away from a missed opportunity re the anniversary year, but the conclusion I get is football at this level, like many concerts, is pricing a lot of working class people out

The thing to remember here, more than anything else is the number sold. The barometer, has to be this season. Other clubs sell a lot more than us, simple as that, so pricing at the level they have, possibly has little or no effect.

With the numbers sold at Ewood this season, together with the shenanigans, these prices point to a further reduction. We won’t know if this is purely down to price or not, without using some sort of inventiveness and although I know it isn’t perfect, my suggestion in an earlier post, would at least test the water on that.

From some of the responses, a similar scheme, at other clubs has proved to be successful, so why not give it a try?

If as expected, there are less than 4,000 adult season tickets are sold, it should tell everyone, this there is something seriously wrong. 

It’s a shame the people at the top, don’t think the same about the club, players & manager, as people like Luke. They abuse the love and the fans loyalty to the club, in essence, with some of the decisions and statements.

I attended a one to one meeting not that long ago and was shocked to hear what was said about one of the players, who has since been sold. Despite this thread being about the lack of quality of one of the players, I don’t think any of us, would abuse a player, but the decision makers, seem to think nothing of it. 
The statements made in the press about both JDT and Eustace beggar belief, so imagine what is said behind closed doors. 

2 minutes ago, JHRover said:

But what about Waggott's targets and remuneration?

We need to remember at all times that the ONLY motivation here is maximising revenue, not because it helps the club but because it helps Waggott keep his job and maximise his own income by saving Venkys money.

Nothing more to it than that. Filling Ewood, maximising numbers, encouraging new buyers, all sound good and logical at a normal club but not issues of concern here.

Based on the figures, I think the revenue will be higher 

6 minutes ago, Lancaster Rover said:

Morecambe did something very similar in their first season in League 1, there were 3 prices based on meeting season ticket sale numbers. Regardless to say they smashed all 3 targets and had their record ever ST sales with an average attendance over 4500, 2k more than their previous highest average!

It just takes something like this, which I’m sure will work. 

14 minutes ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

12,000 x £ 150.00 = £ 1.8 million.

5000 x £ 400.00 = £ 2 million.

Less police, concourse, safety, cleaning and general infrastructure costs with only 5000 attending.

Whilst I like your train of thought, the owners want maximum income and minimum expense.

We will not sell 5,000 adult tickets.

This has been a huge own goal and a missed opportunity.

How about this, which I know is now too late and will have fallen on deaf ears.

Operation fill Ewood

Given the special year in the history of Blackburn Rovers football club, we have a new and exciting offer, that, we hope the fans will get behind.

The aim is to sell 12,000 adult season tickets at £150 per person, but in order to ensure the funds are still available for the clubs plans, we have a plan to ensure that we meet a minimum target, hence the 12,000 adult tickets.

Our proposal is an initial pledge to buy and we request that a payment of £50 is made and this will be deducted form the £150 if the numbers are met. The deadline for this, will be 01/05/2025. 

Once pledged, no refund will be made if the target is met, as we will expect the £100 remaining payment is then made and  the season ticket will be allocated. 

In the event of the numbers not being met, then the option is to claim a full refund, or the payment can be used to buy at the normal prices.

For each adult ticket purchased, so long as the target of 12,000 is met, an option to purchase up to  2 children's tickets for £30 each will be offered. 

What's the point in all this?

9 minutes ago, Uddersfelt Blue said:

You gone soft? Riverside’s absolutely fine 

I spent all of my early years watching from the Riverside terraces, before eventually moving to the Blackburn End, when the kids were born.

All 3 of us had season tickets in the lower tier and all love our time there.

Sadly, this has been destroyed forever now and although my Grandson is a Rovers fan, I am struggling to build the club up too much to him. 

40 minutes ago, paullarrygher said:

I miss the days of someone on here giving a live commentary of a Delhi courtroom for 6 hours only to realise the Venky's case was listed in another court.

A Kangeroo court at it's very best.

23 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

The season ticket price increases merely confirm this. The owners only want to put in the bare mininum to keep the ship barely afloat.

i think they are in for a rude awakening, as there seems to be a groundswell here, as even some of the most loyal season ticket holders, are now, asking questions.

3 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

Morning Everyone,

I'm in a number of whattapp groups with some supporters and supporter groups.

We've floated an idea yesterday to them including BRFCS, which the telegraph has promised to run with providing enough groups endorse. 

To date EWMC, BRAG have endorsed and BRFCS require all owners agreement. 

This request has also gone to Proud Rovers and WATR via different people within the whatsapp group, but we need other groups to come forwards too.

The idea would be BRFCS are the lead, given they have the largest reach out.

Myself or someone else will fill in the blanks once we have recieved replies back from the groups, though time is of the essence as I've been made aware of a load of PR due to drop from the club to try and distract from the growing issues supporters have.

The intention is a statement will be issued targeting the board and owners, where a clear action/response will be needed in advance of the next home game, or phase two will then be made active.

 

Sorry it's s bit vague this, but until the groups come back it's all I can say at thus point.

It's a great idea and I hope this is announced, as I am sure this will make an impact on those destroying the club. 

57 minutes ago, oneandycrawford said:

I have no memory of David Glenn. Can someone enlighten me? 🙂

Hi didn't really make the grade at Rovers, hence you not remembering him. I recall him, but had to search to get the info below, which I hope you find useful. Played the odd game as a stand in mainly.

As a youngster Glenn represented Wigan schools at both football and rugby league and he joined the town's football club, Wigan Athletic, when he left school.^[3] His Football League debut arrived as a 17-year–old substitute against Port Vale on 6 September 1980, in place of his future Chester City team-mate Peter Houghton.^[3] During his time at Wigan, he had a one-month trial with Chelsea in November 1982, during which time he played four times for their reserve side. The next three years produced more than 70 league appearances before he moved to Blackburn Rovers on a free transfer in August 1983.^[3]

After failing to establish himself as a regular in the Blackburn side, Glenn rejected the offer of a new contract in the summer of 1985 and joined Fourth Division side Chester City.^[3] He played his first game for the club in a 1–1 draw with Halifax Town on 17 August 1985, alongside fellow debutants Wakeley Gage, Milton Graham and Lee Harley, in Harry McNally's first game as Chester manager.^[4] Glenn helped Chester win promotion in his first season at the club, scoring his only goal in a 3–2 win at Colchester United late in the season.^[3]

This is another defeat, I think, which will probably ruin my 60th birthday celebrations.

I will be watching form Spain on Rovers TV so hope I can raise a glass at the end to salute a much needed victory, but I do have my doubts.