1 hour ago, Miller11 said:

Repeated public criticism… the best one was when Mowbray really bitterly came out and said “He thinks he can play Premier League football one day… we’ll see.” 

I’ve also been told specific examples about how both Raya and Nyambe were treated. I can’t elaborate on here and break a confidence, but they’d constitute work place bullying in any other environment. I know I can’t expect anyone else to take that as gospel, but I believe their treatment played a big part in their wanting to leave, along with their contracts.

It’s been said before that Mowbray did not always seem to act in the best interests of the club. Granted people on here do need to be careful about their source of information, but looking back at things like this, certainly has eyebrows being raised.

24 minutes ago, Bohinen1983 said:

I don't think Wharton looks anything special. The fact he's lauded as our best CM shows how urgently we need reinforcements in that area.  He should be around the bench coming on making cameos cutting his teeth aiding his development. But I think he has a long way to go.  Look forward to seeing his progress but I'm not getting excited.  Seen Duff and Dunn come through the ranks and he's not in that bracket at the moment. 

Each to their own, but I see a star in the making. He looks very special to me. His one goal so far was very classy and his debut was awesome. 

Nice to get a win and keep an interest in the cup. I hate going out early, as it puts me off watching the other ties.

We rode our luck today, but dug in and ground it out. It was a tricky tie, so let’s hope to get a better draw in round 4.

1 minute ago, Bethnal said:

BBD should be burying that but the build-up was incisive and the little backheel switch was excellent. We look good here, although I’m conscious Norwich are abject at the minute. Their fans are silent.

He had done the hard part too.

14 minutes ago, J*B said:

He lined up yesterday in the first eleven team (so I was told, but the same applied for JRC), so between then and last night something has changed. Either a niggle or JDT didn’t think he was putting enough effort in. 

I predict the latter. His attitude (if we’re to believe the rumours) is very laid back and confident and I don’t think that’s either appreciated, understood or liked. 

Not too sure if Rich Sharpe is defending someone, but he has said on Twitter he isn’t 100%. Not said fit after it so could mean 100% frame of mind. 

4 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

The rumours about A Wharton & JDT must be true. Truely staggering that he’s not playing. Travis back as captain also…Yawn.

3-1 Norwich.

Very poor that and the manager needs to have a rethink. The lad is good enough for the league, so should definitely be starting today. 

9 minutes ago, roverandout said:

We've had some incredible strikers over the years. Going back 30 years, and yes some were past their prime but shearer, yorke Sutton, Cole, Fowler, Bellamy, dahlin, sukur, roque santa cruz, Mccarthy, Gallagher. Now we have players like hirst and Sam Gallagher 

We once had Jack Walker too and now we have some Indian people who probably had never heard of Blackburn 15 years ago.

5 hours ago, PeteJD13 said:

myself and @Miller11sat down to a meeting with SW, we went throught the struggles the town has, area's to target as a lot of our match going fans come from the surrounding area. We discussed prices incentives and loads of other things to get bums on seats what did we get we'll look into it

I bet his piece of paper, reminding him to look into it, was filed in for he bin, before you got into the car.

Some great crowds in the league below us recently, namely Bolton and Ipswich. Both of those teams have struggled to attract supporters in the past, but manage it now. I bet their CEO’s are both paid far less than Waggott to do a far better job. 

On 27/12/2022 at 18:42, simongarnerisgod said:

both clubs been through terrible ownership and come out of the otherside on the up,we need to rid ourselves of ours(somehow)

Ken Anderson did his best to send Bolton in the same direction as Bury. I think that still having a club to support, along with some proper people in n charge, making sound commercial decisions has helped.

Perhaps a few lessons can be learned by our lot, as things are getting better by the day there. 

1 hour ago, Mellor Rover said:

That’s the big thing for me too. Wait until he has his own players before I judge too much. He’s been left with some absolute filth and we can’t play direct as we don’t have a striker at the club who has a first touch! Gallaghers second touch is a header.

Gallaghers second touch, is normally a tackle.

1 hour ago, Sweaty Gussets said:

A contradiction surely. If BBD should have had a hat-trick then the service to him was fine. The solution is someone who will put the ball in the net between now and May. Exactly the same situation as it was last January. Hopefully a better outcome this year. 

I think the player most likely to find the killer ball to him, was suspended today. I think Adam Wharton is now a must. A bit of flair in the middle will make all the difference and he is our man.

Hopefully he has now paid the price for any spat with the manager and he is given a run of games.

he is far too good to be wasted. 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

I know they did recently during the freezing weather a couple of times but did they during the World Cup?

Either way, you'd be hard pushed to find a pitch as bad as ours in this league, and it's impossible not to point to the owners reneging on the intention to do an overdue, proper relay. 

It's a fair way to sum up how Venkys have run our club since they sadly took it over, we used to win awards for our pitch, now its a right state.

Waggott went to great lengths to explain to people in meetings, how what they did would be fine. As usual the amount spent reflects how it has ended up and is just typical of the attitude from top to bottom. 

3 minutes ago, JoeH said:

Think we've managed to play a better game despite the pitch, better than Cardiff at least. Should be playing against 10-men, but that's EFL referees for you.

Studs right into a players midriff of a ball bounced on a players head. One deserves a yellow and one a red.

1 minute ago, J*B said:

I can’t see it. We’ve threatened far more, if we lose this then it’s a huge fuck up. 

We aren’t going to score. No urgency, no flair, no shots on goal and no one looking like they want one. Best we can hope for is 0-0,but I see us hading on to them. 

5 minutes ago, WacoRover said:

Just getting the game on here in Texas; it’s probably been said, but Ewood appears to be a bit of a mess. 

The football on offer is a bigger mess. Shit that.

1 hour ago, BigBar said:

Yeah seems the manager is trying to send some sort of message. He's miles ahead of Garrett. Baffling.

He is now on a card. If the rest of the half carry’s on as it is, Wharton must come in for Garrett at HT.

Im thinking of doing a crossword 

5 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Give me some examples of the same referees making 'horrendous' errors week after week. I'm not defending any referee here by the way but there is an overreaction to some decisions generally speaking. Having seen every Rovers game this season I'm struggling to think of a match where a referee has unfairly influenced the outcome of the game. I get as frustrated as anybody with decisions sometimes but try and keep a sense of perspective.

 

I would say excessive force was used by a Burnley player, first on Kaminski and on two other occasions. It may not have affected the outcome, but he never received a sharp word, let alone a card. 

3 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

Just deleted a post linking to this - the key is the Red card provision 😆

Sorry if I have broken any forum rules 

Interesting.

https://www.thefa.com/-/media/cfa/global/files/referees/fourth-official-guidance.ashx

50 minutes ago, Hasta said:

I refer @J*Band @Miller11back to my original post here.

Of course Buckey is to blame, but I expect those officials now to send off any time two players square up and push each other. I also expect them to give fouls in the penalty areas for holding, to blow for free kicks when defenders ‘Shepard’ the ball out by obstructing a striker. Rovers took a throw about 15 yards forward last night and the ref waved play on to the Boro complaints. I expect them to pull them back for those.

If someone does a deliberate hand ball on the line, scythes the last man down, a reckless two footed lunge and the referee ignores it then it would be highlighted as a missed red card. If that ref had spoken to, or booked, Buckley last night then nobody would have even mentioned it as a red card avoided post match.  

That’s exactly it. Would Carrick have mentioned it after the game, had we done on to win. Would we as fans have been moaning about a blatant sending off, if one of their players had done it?

I also do not think the role of the fourth official is to make decisions like that. Imagine if the fourth official had ruled our goal out for offside. 

1 hour ago, Mercer said:

The Whartons lived in Salesbury and it's surprising what information gets passed around in the smaller Ribble Valley communities particularly amongst like minded people (in this instance football orientated folk including supporters etc).  Would not think @J*Bwould post without foundation.

I am sure Josh can defend himself on this, but I’m certain he hasn’t made it up. Expanding on it and maybe quoting the source (if that doesn’t compromise someone) will no doubt clear this up.

We are being robbed of seeing an exciting talent, who is one of our own, at the minute, so it needs sorting and fast. 

2 hours ago, DaveyB said:

 

I don’t want to argue with Arbitro’s experience, but are we sure that it warranted a red card? According to the laws of the game, it should have been a yellow unless it was thrown with excessive force - I’ve watched it a few times now and really not sure that it can be classed as excessive…

 

Link for anyone wanting to check for themselves: https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/fouls-and-misconduct/#disciplinary-action

It wasn’t even reckless, let alone thrown with excessive force. Like you, Arbitro is more qualified to make comment on it than me, but does anyone think that ball was thrown even slightly forcefully? 

42 minutes ago, Bethnal said:

They’re saying “violent conduct” on comms and with that it could also be “serious foul play” as the other option within the laws. Practically speaking, it’s unsporting conduct, which is a cautionable offence at worst. It’ll be rescinded but that doesn’t help us at all.

Very poor showing and I’m inclined to write this off. We should’ve maybe put a couple away in the first half and not conceded early but the cumulative effects after the red make a loss here easier to forgive.

If that’s violent conduct, I’m guilty of wife battery and cruelty to animals. I throw the wife’s slippers to her with more aggression and the dogs ball twice as hard, when he needs a little run. 

A yellow is harsh for that. Absolutely no aggression. 2-1 down, so cost us the game 

Just now, K-Hod said:

Anyone want to update us on what that ref card was for? Couldn’t see anything worthy of a red from here…

Throwing the ball at a Boro player. Joke to be honest