1 minute ago, riverholmes said:

I can't understand why the club didn't get Reda Khadra back in, assuming he was available, affordable and/or didn't turn us down. Perhaps, they see Dolan and Hedges as ample cover but with Brereton Diaz expected to move on, he would've been a safe bet to get goals and assists, to support any new signing.

Khadra was one of the drivers of our run last year. He helped make Buckley impress as a no.I0 by offering direct running and options, even if his output tailed off. Gallagher returning from injury and to the wing cut off that outlet.

At Sheffield United on loan

16 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Well according to reports in January Bournemouth were offering £4.5 million for Rothwell with only 5 months left on his deal.

So yeah if all 3 had been under long term contracts I'm pretty sure they'd have been worth over £10 million combined. 

I don't know in what world Lenihan & Nyambe are worth a combined £5.5m yet on frees they end up at Boro & Wigan. Honestly think £3m for the pair of them under long term contracts is pushing it.

3 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Nah although a worthy mention. Big English lad 

Alex Marrow

I'm confused after the transfer window shut many on here were hailing us as having one of the best squads in the division... fast forward a couple of weeks and we are struggling because we are carrying so many injuries and having to use the squad and that is why we are near the foot of the table... ?

21 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Bonus points for first to answer our last Greek signing 

Did we not sign a young Greek Keeper back in early 2010's? might have been for the youth team but you never said first team only ?

Edit: Found his name, Nikolaos Giannakopoulos

59 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

So by the looks of it, for about £3m more than the 12 arguably  wasted on Gallagher and BB, you could have brought in Reed and Tosin permanently.

And be paying them a hell of a lot more in wages every week in fairness...

1 minute ago, Sparks Rover said:

Until they actually watched him.

Oh so you accept that Arsenal did have an interest in Raya then? well that's a quick turn around from last night

46 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Samba was given new contracts before Venkys rocked up. The truth is nobody knows what the real story behind the Raya to Arsenal story barring a few individuals.

Maybe he was but I can only find one extension reported before Venkys arrived which was in response to his fine form after arriving for next to nothing and cementing himself as a major part of the first 11, otherwise known as reward for fine form. Could be wrong, who knows but clubs giving contracts to players to ward off interest usually publicly announce the new deal, you know like Brentford did with Raya ?‍♂️

The truth is nobody knows anything for certain but they take from the information widely available to make a educated guess. The educated guess is Arsenal had interest in Raya at the very least.

Just now, arbitro said:

That's a bit insulting for having an opinion on something none of us really know the truth about.

And by the way lots of agents do use that kind of leverage to get moves or new deals for their clients. That's their job and they will do it by fair means or foul. I'm not sure if you were around when Samba was but he seemed to get a new deal every year to stop him from leaving. I know that because his agent told me.

You take it in whatever way you want. And using Samba and Venkys at a time where they were absolutely clueless with an agent running the show as a yardstick is pointless, you are proving my point that we are not an example to use as a club being run well, especially at that time. Brentford on the other hand are not exactly pumping contracts out to all and sundry when an agent claims interest in his client, if they want to protect their investment from a club who has submitted an interest to the club however...

27 minutes ago, arbitro said:

The Raya story smacks of an agent doing his job. Get a move from Rovers to a club with a reputation for player development, create a link to Arsenal cleverly underpinned by the Brentford goalkeeper coach going there and hey presto - a shiny new, greatly improved contract for his player. He has played them all like a fiddle.

yep, because all it takes is an agent claiming a link to a club to bolster his clients contract... Do you have any idea how stupid this sounds? If it was that easy every agent would be doing it.

23 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:

What utter twaddle!

fact there is no evidence to show a bid other than newspaper speculation!

fact Raya has shown himself to be inconsistent as a keeper.

fact he is not worth £10m otherwise if arsenal had bid it would have been done and dusted even if there was a loan back for a season so again this dissolves any thought if arsenals real interest.

fact arsenal went and bought someone else.

fact no one has been proven right other than rovers nabbing £3m and a sell on clause because that was the going rate at the time.

my opinion, you have yours!

I'm sorry you are right!

No transfer ever completed has only ever had evidence that only comes from newspaper speculation...

Of course Brentford will accept a £10m bid for any of their players no matter who they are, heck if Arsenal want you they can just name the price they want to pay and all clubs fold...

How could we be so blind... Oh wait ?

Just because when we issue a hands-off warning/not for sale stance we end up selling don't mean other clubs do. Let's take Brentford for example Benrahma is for sale at the right price with numerous clubs publicly declaring interest in signing him, still at Brentford though... why is that do you think?

2 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Are you comparing the Sancho situation to.David Raya?.  There is evidence of multiple bids from utd.  Again, where is your evidence that Raya turned Arsenal down? Or that they even made a bid?

Again do a search on google the same people/publications reporting the bids for Sancho have reported the Arsenal bids for Raya. Stop being cantankerous. Nobody has said Raya turned Arsenal down however it has been widely reported Brentford turned down offers from Arsenal.

2 minutes ago, skous18 said:

Thought the purpose of evidence is to prove something. Sorry i am not fluent in English 

It is used to serve to prove/disprove an alleged "Fact" but evidence alone is not enough to prove/disprove anything, as evidence can be contradictory. But this is a transfer thread so lets not go off topic here and open a whole can of worms... ?

Just now, Sparks Rover said:

I think Raya would be a Arsenal player if they were interested,  don't you?

No not at all, by the same logic Sancho should be a United player... he isn't though is he!

Messi publicly stated his desire to leave Barcelona... where is he again?

14 minutes ago, skous18 said:

I am not trying to be annoying or anything but you CAN’T prove something thats negative.

Once at work, I was asked to prove a negative claim so my maneger told the other party to prove that they are not Mickey Mouse first. 

I didn't ask him to prove anything, I asked for his evidence that Arsenal were not interested in Raya, evidence and proof are not the same thing.

29 minutes ago, Sparks Rover said:

Its not my suggestion he was their target and chose Brentford instead.  That's your assertion.

No Its multiple press publications/agencies assertion.

1 minute ago, Sparks Rover said:

Sam Johnstone came from Utd, and he had proven premier league class.  

Can you post the evidence that Arsenal were in for Raya?

Oh 8 games in the Premier League is Premier League Class pull the other one... And the evidence is all over google type "David Raya Arsenal bid" 100's of websites offering evidence Arsenal had bids for Raya. can you post evidence that Arsenal were never interested in Raya...

1 minute ago, bluebruce said:

Has Arteta come out and said he wasn't in for him? Unless that's the case, there isn't any evidence that he wasn't willing to pay more than 3m for him. There is some evidence (not proof, evidence) that they were though.

Of course there isn't, but then that wont fit the narrative some on here are trying to peddle about the Raya debacle. Sam Johnstone moved to West Brom in 2018 for £6.5m... a Keeper who conceded 7 more than Raya last season and the season before that conceded just 2 less than Raya, but yeah we made out great on the Raya deal, righto ?

15 minutes ago, Miller11 said:

Yeah, I think Bonne did well at Orient previously too. I thought Marcus Forss might have been a goer, largely due to him being with HSH. Did well at Wimbledon last year, but looks like he’s in and around the Brentford team now with their front line being picked apart.

A premier league loan wouldn’t surprise me... can’t really name any names as I’m well out of the loop with the Prem. I wouldn’t be averse to a move for Joe Garner, but doesn’t fit the model at all.

 

 I'd take a punt on Keinan Davis

1 minute ago, Sparks Rover said:

Thats what i said.  If he was a youth produxt we would get compo...but he isnt

It doesn't matter, he was under 24 and we offered him an extension therefore we get a tribunal to decide the players value (which 99.9% of time includes add ons like sell-on profits, hence why the fee you receive is usually low)

Just now, Sparks Rover said:

If he was a youth product and he wasn't.   The clause isn't there

 

Wrong. The youth product will get you a little bit of money for training compensation and future fee with no value in the player as a whole, and is decided by the rules in EPPP regime.

Just now, Sparks Rover said:

I've never ever heard of a player running his contract down and then there being a sell on fee at his next club.  Sorry, doesn't stack up. I'm willing to bet there isn't a clause.

As he was under 24 a tribunal will more often than not insert future fees based on apps/caps/sell-on profit

What's a Bunonion? and let's ignore the incorrect usage of there ? I expected better from Charlie ?

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

They've got a superstar Brazilian on the right wing who everything good for them goes through. 

We have Samuel.

Says it all, really.

2 seasons ago they were in the Premier League while we were in League 1

Says it all, really.

Just now, Tom said:

Argh Dom Sam that has to be a goal 

At least make the Keeper work