PeteJD13
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Do we actually think the club will do anything ? I expect them to double down on the pricing
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At The Gates - The Flames of the End
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Pleased with Tomasson, better appointment then someone like Ferguson who should not ever have been near this job or just another championship jobber like Grayson/Adkins.
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57 minutes ago, Tricky said:
Inspiring, my two are in Sale and that's the aim once they're out of nappies!
It’s not easy if the schools are owt like the ones here, they get loads of freebies from United and city, Evie happy binned the United boot bag and goodie bag she got !
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2 hours ago, adopted scouser said:
Is Ferguson out of the running now ? If he wants to manage Everton at some stage he has a lot to prove, and that level of ambition would have been great for us (just my opinion).
Even with a recommendation from Carlo Ancelotti we'll probably end up with a dullard.
Hopefully he is, he shouldn't be anywhere near consideration
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4 hours ago, Mattyblue said:
Proper parenting 💪
My kids are growing up in flixton and enjoy being mancs, but they both support rovers!
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45 minutes ago, Miller11 said:@1864roverite here’s my thoughts following my interactions with those at the club.
Despite some ill tempered run ins in the past, I find Steve Waggott is approachable and attentive. He asks the right questions and seems to want to improve things. Whether his hands are tied, or he’s just giving lip service, the improvements don’t come and very little materialises.
He clearly has very specific financial targets. Making minimal savings seem to be far more of a priority than league position, commercial growth, or fan engagement. It’s pennywise, pound foolish, just like our wage structure… more on that later.
A prime example is our differing views on the catering at Ewood. To me, Sodexo offer crap service and crap products, I’d like to see a much more imaginative offering. To him it’s cost effective and easy to tender it out, he sees the long term deal with them as good business.
In my opinion, Waggott spreads himself too thin. He seems to spend more time at his Brockhall office than his Ewood office. Maybe he likes the whole back and forth with agents better than the day to day running of operations. Perhaps this will be remedied somewhat by the appointment of Broughton, but that leads us on to another issue…
I’ve long since thought the structure at the club is an absolute mess. It’s completely convoluted and unclear. We do know that Venky’s have the final say, and I strongly suspect they are micro-managing via Pasha. This leads to things being done at a glacial pace, or not at all. Mowbray’s parting comments all but confirmed this. As soon as he is no longer interested in self preservation, we got the truth of the matter. He was desperate to tell us Waggott has no real power, rather than banging on about Venky’s being knowledgeable, humble and supportive.
The club have finally started to make strides in engaging with the local Asian community. It’s long overdue and the efforts of Yasir have been fantastic. It’s seeing more tangible benefit than I thought it would. Kudos.
Enticing new fans and re-engaging with lost ones are two very different things that require very different strategies. Unfortunately they are doing nothing to mitigate the drop off of long-standing fans. I’ve discussed this at great length with people in the club. It’s always acknowledged and I’m asked for solutions, which I’ve made suggestions on. So far nothing has happened. I’ll be interesting to see if there are strides made over the coming months though.
Nobody at the club understands the fanbase. We’ve made a real effort to remedy this, from history lessons of 1960 to presentations about lapsed season ticket holders. I’m hopeful this will change, but not at all confident.
Here are some things a senior employee in a confusing marketing role told me:
- There’s nothing special or unique about Blackburn Rovers
- Kids aren’t interested in going to football matches, we’d be better off selling them NFTs
- Why should a child or senior ticket be cheaper than an adult one? A seat is a seat.
- Pretty soon nobody will go to matches, they will watch interactive things in their phones instead
There is little wonder there is such disconnect between the fanbase and club!
Onto our current situation… the jury is very much out on the managerial appointment. I’ll wait til it has actually played out, because I’ve gone over this in depth. If we get a good appointment, I think it’s props to Waggott. If we get a HSH pick, he needs to resign. In my opinion the process has become so drawn out it’s farcical. I can’t say for sure why that is, but I am not in the least bit surprised it’s happened.
All this talk of implementing a vision and long term strategy is trying to run before we are even crawling. Those idiots in Pune get no credit for not liquidating our academy, it’s been a money spinner for them, not an expense… but they are ballsing that up before our very eyes. Our supposed sustainable long term strategy is not working as evidenced by Lenihan and Nyambe going for nothing. Our wage structure is inflexible and nonsensical. We absolutely should have a wage cap, but the current approach is not fit for purpose. The can kicking approach we seem to favour of triggering year options rather than properly negotiating in a timely manner was always going to come back to haunt us. Pennywise, pound foolish again.
What I will say is Waggott acknowledged the importance of this appointment and that the club is at a pivotal juncture. How much he can actually influence things though is questionable… and he’s supposed to be our CEO.
As out of touch as those on the ground at Ewood undoubtably are, they still have a far better handle than 3 billionaires on a different continent who surround themselves with people who slavishly obey. Venky’s do not delegate effectively, and we remain at the mercy of their whims. They never learn and continue to be “badly advised”. It’s their own fault of course, they generally sack anyone who tells them anything they don’t want to hear.
Thats my opening gambit. Happy for you to tell me how and why I’m misguided.
This 100 percent, I was present in one of those meetings where lapsed fans and re engagement was discussed, we discussed the drop offs and reasoning. I used my own situation i pay for three season tickets with myself and my two kids we don't live in East Lancashire anymore, so midweek games are out. We gave numerous options other clubs use for inventive ticketing offers and solutions. We get listened to but nothing changes, the season on season drop off should set alarm bells ringing. This season looks to be another recent history ST sale all time low.
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3 minutes ago, tomphil said:
He wasn't backed at a crucial time but he didn't make the best or correct use of the backing he had.
That bit is on him no matter how many other excuses get offered he was allowed to bring in 4 players -- at a crucial time.
That's why he'd never be anything other than the bang average guy he was there isn't much evidence to suggest he'd have been successful with 5 million quid in January.
Agreed he also managed to turn the leading asset maker in the championship, into a complete dobber
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8 hours ago, Andy said:
I’d still be surprised if Dyche hasn’t been interviewed.
But the chances of Venky’s paying his level of wage makes it nigh on impossible…
I’d be amazed absolutely no chance he’s interested in the job
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3 minutes ago, martonrover said:
Hibs reportedly passed on Tomasson due to excessive wage demands and lack of knowledge of British players. Doesn’t exactly sound promising.
What Hibs offer compared to what we offer would be deemed excessive in that market, if he has good knowledge of the scandanavian market we can take advantage of that.
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3 minutes ago, RoverKyle said:
We're a better prospect than Malmo. He's been in the running for the Hibs job apparently. I'd like to think we'd be a more attractive move in comparison.
Hibs appointed Lee Johnson
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12 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:
It most certainly has earlier in this thread! The suggestion was clear, the owners had identified and were happy with a proposed manager HOWEVER SW didnt agree and overruled them!
In any case its about opinions and f yours is different to mine then that is fine by me. I think my views are not wishy washy they are very clear
If he’d overruled the owners he wouldn’t be here, that’s not how they work. They tolerate no dissent or not obeying what they say
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9 minutes ago, Tormund said:
I’d take him
Awful manager
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Rory Gallagher - Shadow Play
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Just now, Bbrovers2288 said:
Pure speculation on my part but wouldn’t be surprised to see Jon Dahl tommason come nearer to the top of the list
Wouldn’t be a bad choice
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9 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said:
I think the Knutsen link is just lazily based on yesterday's appointment.
Pardew's the one that has me worried right now. Has applied for the job, apparently, and there are a few whispers the job is his.
How desperate is he to get back into English football, is the question. He, or whoever else, is going to be walking into a mess here with so much work to do in the window.
Genuine question, if Pardew is appointed, how would you feel?
Miles happier then I would be if ferguson got it
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37 minutes ago, 1864roverite said:
big step down for him boro are as bad a club as birmingham and they are rank bad piss poor
Qualify this please ?
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32 minutes ago, neophox said:
Surely Ole Gunnar Solskjaer may now be one to watch...
Cant see Rovers go for Deila or Knutsen.
Could be someone that he has worked with before.
Why they’ve not worked together
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6 minutes ago, islander200 said:
Nixon being his usual cryptic self.
When asked about the time it taking to appoint a manager and the shambles its becoming his reply "you never know when an unexpected twist comes along"
Covering all basis as per
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9 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:
Can't help but think we're looking at:
Dyche
Jon Dahl Thomassen
Just a hunch
Absolutely no chance dyche is anywhere near this
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When did Delia fly in baring in mind NYFC baring in mind in the last 7 days they’ve played in New York, Chicago and Minnesota
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3 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:
If Unleaded is correct about them not liking him, i also thought it would be down to something like this.
I think it might be SW that doesn’t rate him just a hunch
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1 minute ago, Mercer said:
I have never rated neither Waggott nor Mowbray and have posted about this consistently since their appointments.
I think the last five and a half years have been wasted. IMO, as a club, we have regressed in every operational area - this is what happens if you employ, IMO, fourth or fifth raters. I think we are a club bereft of passion, nous and hope.
Until we employ a first class CEO and football manager we will continue to regress and Venky's will have to continue pumping in some £20million a year or we will go to the wall. It is simply unbelievable that our owners don't see this and under their ownership, IMO, Venky's have been the personification of crass stupidity.
Spot on mercer this shambles of a recruitment process highlights this
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3 minutes ago, unleaded said:
Ainsworth has been interviewd & is last man standing ……he’s been constant throughout the month but for some reason they don’t like him …… even though he’s showing the most interest…
Maybe he needs to play hard to get ……
Do you know who the final three are and is warne one ? I know sw likes him spoke to him about warne last December
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Season tickets 2022/23
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He's one the QEGS brigade isn't he its borderline poverty shaming