Dack might regret not signing the contract that's been on the table for 6 months. Bad news for the club's finances too because if fit he'll just leave on a free in 18 months time.

Judging from Sky's survey of Championship club's supporters about the season so far, only fans of Barnsley and Luton are less satisfied with their team's start and prospects for the remainder of the season. It looks like Rovers or Wigan for the third relegation spot - and I know who my money would be on with Mowbray still at the helm. 

"Rovers 2020" after relegation will be without Nyambe (out of contract), Lenihan and Williams (both sold), Cunningham (too good for L1), Travis, Dack and Holtby (all sold), Bell, Smallwood, Downing, Graham and Samuel (all out of contract),. But never mind, Mowbray's faves will still be around - Evans, Bennett, Brereton, Armstrong along with Johnson and Chapman clinging to their contracts.

Its now beyond dispute that Mowbray's player recruitment has been utterly shite. £12M wasted on Brereton and Gallagher neither of whom looking even remotely like replacing Graham (35 next birthday). Mowbray can't recognise when a player's legs and ambition have gone - Whitttingham and Johnson and in nearly 3 years has brought in only one decent defender(Cunningham). 

18 hours ago, Pedro said:

We'll go 2 - 0 up and they'll pull it back.  It'll infuriate me but he'll get a stay of execution.

Just so predictably correct...

Always the same with Mowbrays teams.Concede one, concede three - or more. At most clubs he'd have been fired in March but with sidekick Waggott and clueless Venkys he's still as safe as houses. 

Mowbray is going backwards at a rate of knots. That midfield pairing was barely adequate for League 1. It just confirms that Johnson is a waste of (a rather large) space.

With any luck Bennett will pick up a booking so at least he won't be in for the next match.

That was an absolutely abysmal display at QPR and mirrored the many similar 2nd half capitulations last season, particularly away from home. A team that can't defend (and particularly not a lead) and has no prolific-scoring striker is going to struggle. If Cunningham is out for a long period (and the sideways impact on knee looked bad) then God help us with Bell as the back up. The build-up play is turgid and lacks width as both "wingers" always go inside and Rothwell seems capable only of running sideways. A couple more abject shows like this and it will be time to sack Mowbray before the clocks go back. 

Fergie's solo goal v Northampton Town  in December 1965 is the best I've seen at  Elwood apart from Tony Field v Watford in November 1973. 

11 hours ago, 4000Holes said:

Size has nothing to do with it.  Once took my girl friends father who was destined to become father in law, poor sod, to watch Derby v Chrystal palace when Brian Clough and Bert Head where respective managers, as we happened to be near Derby at the time.  Teams came out for warm up, Palace players big, sun tanned and looked like proper athletes. Derby team, small, pale and looked totally unlike athletes should. Girl friends father said Forrest are going to get murdered.  Just wait said I.

Game began and little Archie Gemmill, John O’Hare and Kevin Hector just ran the show.  Couldn’t stop smiling at the final whistle.

None of those where hardly massive stature.

Scott Sellar was 9 stone dripping wet but one of the best midfielders in a league more physical than this one.

Just now, magicalmortensleftpeg said:

Just got back.

I haven’t read any comments so got no idea what the general consensus is.

Overall I was encouraged. I expected a battering and it never looked like occurring. We were by far the better side in the first half and marginally second best in the second. The end result was harsh and a draw would have been fair.

Positives:

Tosin and Williams. Solid throughout. We won’t miss Mulgrew if Tosin can keep that up. Williams looks far more accomplished at CB.

Dack. Was flying into everything and stood out in the first half. He won’t be here for much longer so we should make the most of it, Really encouraged by how well he played.

Travis and Johnson. It works, Really effective together. Best centre mid pairing in years.

Negatives.

Armstrong, He’s not a winger. Gets in behind but the end product isn’t there. Move him central or bring Chapman in.

Bell. Improved in the second half but was clearly our weak link. It’s Cunningham’s spot to lose.

Rothwell. Barely noticed him. Deserves more chances and did nothing wrong but didn’t provide much.

Everyone else did well enough. Bennett looked ok and Gallagher worked a really hard. Main concern is the lack of clear chances we created today and last week, Disappointed with how we seemed to down tools after their second. We ran out of steam in the second half and the subs had no real impact. 

Fulham were solid but unspectacular. They will get better I’m sure. 

As a stand alone performance there’s plenty to be pleased about, But we need that first point to get things going, 

As someone who also went to the game - and I suspect many on here didn't - the above is a fair summary. However Johnson was awful and almost out of self-control in the second half, giving away possession for fun. Gallagher trundles around and directs headers to nobody in particular and without looking like he'd score in a month. Walton looks to have no presence even though he was not really tested. Showed a lack of bravery in failing to cut out the cross for 2nd goal. Bell makes errors that are inexcusable at this level . Offered nothing down the left side as Rothwell persisted in running sideways across. Armstrong gets into great positions but lacks the ability to get round an opponent and the crosses are aimless. In a competitive league this bunch look set for a scrap near the bottom.

2 hours ago, Mike E said:

If we're basing it purely on incomings it's good imo, but the outgoings make it average.

I feel like the squad is stronger as a whole, but I'm yet to be convinced we'll put out a stronger first eleven. We'll see.

I believe there is every chance we can flirt with 6th place, but it needs EVERYTHING to align perfectly. I think we have no more than a solid mid table side, unless the defence turns out to be better without Mulgrew being a first pick.

Certainly think that

Cunningham-Williams-Lenihan-Nyambe

looks stronger than

Williams-Mulgrew-Lenihan-Nyambe.

I doubt that back 4 will ever happen unless Bennett is unavailable.

Just now, rigger said:

I think the window has been good. It is upto Mowbray to pick them.

Agreed

Just now, toogs said:

We also have to find 10/12 goals per season from somewhere else to compensate.  

 

I'm sure somebody else can score penalties. Didn't score many direct free kicks last season as Championship goalkeepers are better (except for Peacock-Farrell)

Just now, Hi Mack said:

Not signing a CB is madness, not buying a CB and selling one (if Mulgrew actually goes) is absolutely astonishing.

Williams isn't a CB and never will be.

TM is showing early signs of losing the plot.

Williams wasn't a CB until he joined Rovers and then Coil had one of brainwaves and we've been lumbered ever since. At CB Wiiliams has looked half-decent but worrying if he is now the number one at left CB.

Just now, jim mk2 said:

Cunningham seems well received but in an ideal world, would have loved Austin (instead of Gallagher), and Reed, and a big centre back, which we are still sorely lacking. With them on board as Bowyer said we might have been able to have given it a right good go.

Have to say overall, it's been a disappointing window. 

Tosin is 6'5''. Not big enough?

Decent results in the last few meaningless fixtures last season papered over an awful second half to last season and now with the same personnel (in a so-called "defence") the same trash is being served up. This and the relegation thread will be top of the posts until or unless Mowbray is potted.

Mowbray is condemned out of his own mouth. The failure to strengthen the defence is criminal and he should pay the price, and presumably will do when this shambles is bottom of the league in November. 

1 hour ago, bluebruce said:

What on earth is the point of giving a 21-year old a 3-year deal when the only loan he can currently get is in League Two? He has to be kicking on to League One now or there simply isn't any point keeping him around, let alone for 3 years.

Being under contract ensures either a fee or Tribunal compensation if he leaves before 2022 and with all the lower leagues experience he will have had, that seems likely. In the mean s loan fee and wages contribution should cover most if not all of the ongoing cost.

No Chapman today. Starting as he means to go on. 

3 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

It'll be Carson.

Just seems to be a perfect fit for Mowbray.

 Quite likely because Carson was signed by Mowbray at WBA and he generally only ever brings in players from his previous clubs. The scouting dept is superfluous and, judging from the BB signing, useless.

10 hours ago, CraigF said:

Offt imagine that! 

     Adam    Downing 

               Johnson 

Cracking central midfield next season. 

It would have been - at least 5 years ago.

Darlow appears to be on a par with the likes of Fielding and Jason Steele, two dodgy keepers who moved on free transfers. Hope we're not paying more than a nominal fee for him.

1 hour ago, Butty said:

Like I said I’d like too think we could do better, but it’s hard too say without knowing whether the Chicken farmers are making TM shop in Waitrose or Aldi this summer.

Or Poundland most likely