34 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Mowray's taking this club nowhere

League 1 if he's still here next season

It looks like Brereton will be classified in a list of previous "big signing" strikers who did diddlysquat (without the excuse of injury) such as George Jones, Kevin Davies, Grabbi, Kalinic and Goodwillie. A couple of those did well elsewhere after leaving and the others disappeared without trace. 

On 28/11/2018 at 16:22, Sparks Rover said:

Solanki available for loan.  Maybe top half championship is what he needs.......

Rules us out then.

3 minutes ago, dallydally said:

Never was going to happen this season. First and foremost we need to stay up

On this form - Bottom 6 by New Year

Brereton is looking like the Grabbi signing for £6m. Pretty much unheard of, did nothing and disappeared without trace. Very negligent top spend so much for so little.

Absolutely terrible, clueless and lifeless performance. A good job there's an 8 point gap to the bottom 3 because looking at the remaining fixtures this month I don't see where the next point is coming from based on this evening's total no-show. The fact is that Rovers have been outplayed in large parts of many games and when the promotion gloss wears off they could easily fall into big trouble. Brereton offers nothing and it's hard to see why he's been signed at all never mind for £7m.

Rovers budget puts them near the bottom of the transfer market food chain so need to wait for crumbs to fall from the Prem feasting table.

Just now, roversinmyblood said:

Hasn’t he got a long term injury?

ACL in February so definitely a runner at present.

None of this season's promoted teams - Wolves, Cardiff, Fulham - have received parachute payments in their promotion season which blows a hole in Mowbray's theory. Even a team in its final (of 3 years) can't spend big because the following season their finances fall off a cliff.

Just now, RoverCanada said:

Interesting to hear Mowbray quote our current wage bill at £8.5m! Maybe he's not including backroom staff, etc., but that's much lower than the lower estimate I've bandied around of £12m! Also quite a drop from £22m last year.

I'd guess we'll aim for a £15-£20m wage bill next year, so that gives us a fair bit more flexibility than I had thought.

With gate receipts/commercial income of only £7m and TV money of £5m that implies a trading loss of more than £10m. Venkys won't have that.

It comes to something when the debts at Sunderland (less than £100m) are considered to be large but still are much less than BRFC owes to Venkys. Even worse, Sunderland still have a Premier League potential that is a pipedream  here. I don't see how the Venkys involvement is going to end in any way that is less than disastrous.

57 minutes ago, rovers1993 said:

I would like to point out that Venkys share price has ROCKETED up. It was 400 rupees per share during the 16-17 close season. It is now 4000 rupees per share. 1000% increase. They have made a huge amount of money in the past year. Now let's see if they are willing to part with 10-20m. It is feasible for them at the moment. 

A share price going up only brings in funds if the shares are sold and Venkys aren't going to do that and lose control of their own company. More relevant is how they are going to recover the £150m they have loaned to the club........

10 hours ago, philipl said:

Armstrong's pace and control seal it for me.

None too shabby getting it on target or playing others in when in dangerous positions either.

Sign him up if we can.

He only looks effective when played centrally. A good finisher but lack of height means he certainly needs a partner. I suspect he can only be a sub in the Championship when chasing a game that's become stretched. Worth taking again on loan but not a purchase.

3 hours ago, den said:

The funeral of Jimmy Armfield today. 

Yesterday I was talking to a Blackpool fan and I showed him a programme for the last Christmas Day football game ever played in England ... Blackpool v Rovers 25th Dec 1965.    3:30 KO, to allow for Xmas dinner.

as a matter of interest these were the teams that day and there were some superb players on show.

 

blackpool :-

waiters, Armfield, Thomson, Turner, James, Green, Moir, Ball, Charnley, Waddell, Oates

 

rovers :-

Else, Newton, Wilson, Clayton, Mullvaney,  Sharples, Darling, Jones, England, Ferguson, Harrison.

 

a lot of talent there, yet before this game Blackpool lied 5th from bottom of the first division, while Rovers lied 3rd from bottom, eventually being relegated. Burnley sat 2nd in the league sandwiched between Liverpool at the top and Man Utd in 3rd spot. 

Alot of plonkers too in Blue and White. Mulvaney and Sharples would make Elliott Ward look like lightening whilst Else and Harrison were both well past their best. Jones was only a lower league player. That team was relegated by Easter with a record low number of points. 

Continually bringing on an explosive player as a substitute after an hour sitting on a bench is asking for trouble. 

2 hours ago, Parsonblue said:

Between 1992 and 2010 we were in the Premier League.  Now we are in League One where loans are the norm.  Times have changed, sadly, but wishing it wasn't so isn't going to change things.  If Mowbray believes the players he has brought in on loan will help us to promotion then good luck to them.  We can't change the past but hopefully the guys on loan can improve our future and help to take us back to the Championship.

2012 not 2010 but really the clock stopped when Venkys moved in.

Just now, MGPensioner said:

I said Mulgew should be rested to avoid injury

 

What is the use of a player who cannot be used ?

23 minutes ago, perthblue02 said:

Log in, go to matches >first team fixtures , scroll down to coventry game click ifollow link

Many thanks

Is there an audio commentary on iFollow and, if so, how is it accessed?

Obviously needed to get away early from Saturday's match. Something other than his hamstring was feeling tight.

3 hours ago, Stuart said:

A post-fact era? Describing a manager's achievements as "not being sacked after relegation" and by "topping the table... at Christmas"? Seriously?

I think, as long as you are quoting facts to back your argument, just stick with "he saved Coventry from dropping into the fourth tier".

But just remember that your benchmark, according to many people on here, is that Paul Lambert got Norwich promoted to the Championship and the to the Premier League and "he's crap" so it's not really saying much.

TM was not sacked by WBA. Celtic had to pay £2m compensation to get him. Fact. Boro were 2nd and 3rd respectively on 1 January in TW's first two full seasons there. Fact

3 hours ago, Dunnfc said:

Who mentioned WBA? 

Facts are facts mate how is it unfair exactly? 

You did not include his excellent record at WBA so omitting facts is unfair.

4 hours ago, Dunnfc said:

 

Had to save his CV i guess. Mark Venus his old assistant stayed i believe?

Sacked by Celtic (worst win record since 1993) won just 23 from 45 in charge, 3rd worst win record in Celtic's entire history.

Sacked at Middlesborough 

And the issue at Coventry where he left them routed to the table.

You can see why people were not exactly enamored with his appointment BUT a big well done thus far.

Unfair summary. TM is a legend at WBA and was not sacked even though relegated from PL. Took Boro to top of table twice at Xmas with negligible funding. Saved Cov from relegation and again topped table following Xmas. Look at the all the facts not just the ones that suit your opinion. Then again we live in a post-fact era....

Just seen the latest offering from the teenage scribbler, Rich Sharp, describing Guthries performance against Derby as "tiresome" when he surely means "tireless". 

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Travis play at Right back? better position?

I think Doyle is going to be good player in the future.

I think within 2 seasons we will have 7 or 8 players with the first team squad from the academy. I'm not including Lowe or Raya or Lenihan in that. along with Mahoney, Tomlinson, Travis, Wharton, Doyle, Hardcastle, Rankin Costello and Nyambe

Delusional. You've been listening too much to Chimphead. For a start the U21 is kids stuff compared to the physicality of L1. And any players who show they can cope at senior level will be sold - Barnsley are already monitoring Mahoney.