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Premier League season 21/22
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Claudio Ranieri being linked. Strange one but might know their Italian owners. They get criticism but it nearly always works in getting Watford where they want to be. 5 years in the Prem, 2 automatic promotions, a play off final and an FA Cup final all in the time we've drifted around the middle/bottom of the Championship and gone nowhere but at least we haven't upset St Tony and he and his mates have had 5 years cash for it. No room for nice guys in this game. -
Who says he is going to India? I bet he'd love that opportunity but number 1 on the list would be nailing down his position and by extension his cronies. Waggott is probably starting to sweat on the situation. There's no doubt in my mind that the minute he gets direct access to the clowns in Pune he will secure his future for another couple of years. Him and Waggott already have the excuse book for their reading and sadly, as so many of our fans have, the owners will swallow it. Sadly for us him getting to India and getting a new deal might also be the only way the owners allow any cash to be spent. If he's going or being replaced by an outsider next summer they won't want to trust him with cash until he's knelt at their feet.
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Ah so my prediction came true then. A poor defeat but an improved second half to send people home calm yet disappointed rather than angry. A defeat is a defeat whatever way you want to dress it up. Weren't Blackpool one of those clubs we'd end up like if/when Venkys left? Anyway, glad I decided to go away for the weekend instead of going to watch more of Mowbray Rovers. When the owners and club start taking this seriously I will. Bored with it all really.
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Prediction. We will be much improved in the second half, have loads of possession, a few chances, put a crap Blackpool side under some pressure but fall short and probably concede a third late on but Mowbray will escape the fans wrath because we improved and tried hard.
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I'd rather he was 'out' than 'sorted it' out.
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Blackpool have had a big problem scoring goals at home. 2 in 5 league games before today. 25 minutes in they've equalled that against Mowbray Rovers. Anyone remotely surprised?
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Waggott's interview with media
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Which spare land is that? Not many places they can build 550 houses near Ewood. Do you mean the new estates up Feniscowles? -
And it is precisely because of games and results like Tuesday night that we have never and will never be in the shake up come the end of the season. Most of us are experienced in this routine by now. Seems others want to ignore past evidence and think this season is going to be different. Why I'm not sure. Teams that mean business don't concede goals and points like on Tuesday. For me it wipes out so much of the good work prior to that. The hammering of Cardiff for example. I would have much preferred a 1-0 last minute job in that and then a ground out 0-0 or 1-0 v Huddersfield and 4-6 points than a smashing of Cardiff then a shambolic defeat to a poor Huddersfield. Because I think Tuesday was shambolic and it annoys me the number of people putting it down to luck, misfortune or not getting the rub of the green. We got an injury to our RB. Unfortunate but not unexpected given his history. To not have a replacement available and to then have to change the entire team around after 20 minutes to cover for it is just typical Mowbray Rovers. Self inflicted problems and making something that should be simple into confusion and something elaborate. Nowt to do with luck. Its poor recruitment and management biting us in the backside.
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v Huddersfield (a) - 28/09/2021
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
A few issues with your fanciful scenario: 1) Keeping key players fit - as we are already starting to see that rarely happens 2) Adding 2 or 3 players in January - we spent next to nothing in the whole summer and relied on cheap loans. Why will January be any different? 3) Will you not be supporting sales of Nyambe, Rothwell and Lenihan in January to ensure we get cash for them before their contracts expire? -
v Huddersfield (a) - 28/09/2021
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
A few years ago Mowbray had the luxury of being able to turn away bad eggs on the basis of having tattoos and ripped jeans. Nowadays beggars can't be choosers and I think the Leeds lad is here simply because they are happy to have him out of the building for the season. -
v Huddersfield (a) - 28/09/2021
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Yes. You reap what you sow and tonight was the first real time this season it came home to roost. It is going to happen more and more as we get into October and beyond. That is inevitable. Magloire isn't remotely good enough yet he is first off the bench. I assume the excuse soon will be how unfortunate we are to have Lenihan, Wharton and the Brighton loan all out injured at once. The others are looking pretty mediocre too. Then when we sell Brereton, Rothwell, Nyambe and Lenihan in January all hell will break loose. -
Waggott's interview with media
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I'm not sure we can really say any of those clubs are in that bad states compared to us. I mean granted they are currently in the League below, but Sunderland and Wigan are looking like promotion contenders and Ipswich were expected to be and look to have a manager and squad set up to compete for promotion. All those clubs suffered relegations to League One just like we did. The difference was/is that all went down due to ownership cuts and changes, whereas we went down purely down to mismanagement. Sunderland got rid of Ellis Short and are now debt free under new ownership. Ipswich got rid of Marcus Evans and are now debt free under American ownership, Wigan got rid of their dodgy owners and are now run by someone who has pumped in money and turned them around so far. All are on a more stable financial footing, less debt, better managed and getting bigger crowds than this club. Put simply if you were to offer me their positions with new owners now or our position with Venkys I'd take theirs any day of the week. A couple of weeks in the top 6 won't change that for me. -
Waggott's interview with media
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I'm not sure I can roll with any of those supposed positives. Promotion was a positive, but we should never have been in that division to start with and the horror of the Coyle season and relegation outweighed joy at getting promoted. Establishing a foothold in the division we are in - again it is all relative. But having been in the Premier League, then supposedly tried returning to it all while losing £15 million every year I don't consider a 'foothold' in the second tier to be an accomplishment. I'm not even sure there is that much progress with the academy, the main difference being that there is more reliance on it and more opportunity for players to come out of it and into the first team than there was previously. The academy has produced the goods for us for many years, going back to Phil Jones, Grant Hanley, Martin Olsson and co. before Venkys rocked up. I don't think it is doing better than before, just that due to the way they are running recruitment and cutting spending it is inevitable that more opportunities and time will be afforded to lads coming out of the academy. We haven't avoided a FFP issue. I thought we were under an embargo earlier this year and then spent nothing in the summer to avoid getting into trouble? We also had an embargo in 2015 and sold all our best players directly leading to relegation to League One so we've actually suffered multiple times under FFP with little to show for it. We are hamstrung on signing players - we sold £15 million worth of talent in the summer and signed only loans and cheap ones at that with the exception of the kid from Lincoln. There is external debt to the BOI. It is relatively small in context of the overall 'debt' but it is there and relies on the owners overdraft facility. The owners don't deserve credit for the debt situation - they have chosen to fund the club this way whilst other owners have written off their 'loans' or funded their clubs differently without putting them £200 million in the red. Bolton, Wigan, Derby, Portsmouth, Leicester, QPR, Birmingham all survived bad owners and came through it - not sure why we are different to that.. We've nothing in common with Bury, the only club to go bust, who were cripped with third party borrowing. -
Waggott's interview with media
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
So lower crowds than PNE, Blackpool, Barnsley and Huddersfield to name but a few. Fourth lowest in the division. And that's with the giveaway of 1000+ in the last few games in the BBE upper without which we would be below Posh. Whatever these supposed great changes are they'd better get a move on or it will be shuffling deckchairs on the Titanic stuff soon. I find it appalling that we are getting less on watching than an Oyston ravaged Blackpool but notice they've slipped off the list of clubs we could end up like if Venkys left us alone and replaced with Derby who will also come through their troubles and get themselves into a healthier state than us and be replaced with another club and repeat ad infinitum. Commendable stuff with giving away kids tickets in the Family Stand and BBE upper but the question has to be asked whether those people are going to be spending money on tickets any time soon. The answer to that I suspect is no so the club really needs to be going after teenagers, young adults, families who have the means at their disposal to buy tickets in numbers not primary school children with no money and from families with no history of following football. That's a longer term project but in the shorter term we've collapsing gates that need dealing with. -
Mowbray is performing above expectations so far and I hope that continues. Amidst the hysteria though I do have to remind myself that we dished out a few impressive beatings early on last season (Derby, Wycombe, Coventry) and then as time went by our good start ground to a halt and then the wheels came off and we ended up looking at a relegation scrap. So I won't be falling for that one again and won't be hailing a new era either. Same manager and same coaching staff, lets hope lessons have been learned and the same mistakes don't happen again. Mowbray has form for these purple patches especially at the start of seasons. His career shows he struggles to maintain them - Middlesbrough and Coventry both got off to blistering starts and then collapsed.
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😆😆😆 Lord almighty.
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Waggott's interview with media
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I suppose the issue is that the -12 points for entering administration is mandatory and automatic, and nobody can argue against it. Points deductions for FFP issues are a different ball game, open to arguments and interpretation of figures. Let's see if they or Reading get any knocked off for that. I hope they do but will believe it when I see the league table with them off. They've been talking about it that long I won't hold my breath. -
Waggott's interview with media
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
For going into administration, not for breaking spending rules. There are rumours they will get a points deduction for fiddling their accounts but those are rumours that have been rumbling for months. No points deducted yet. -
Waggott's interview with media
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Nobody has had a points deduction yet so I'd wait and see if anyone actually gets docked any points and if so how many before we go down the road of applauding our approach. We can rest assured that there will be no replacements lined up for anyone because nobody at the club will have a clue if there is any money to spend or permission from Venkys to do anything. I see that Waggott is back on blaming Covid for our collapse last season and now we have been able to reopen all our facilities everything is much better. This is the CEO of the football club, coming up with cock and bull nonsense excuses to try and cover for his mate's poor performance last season. How mental is this club? He's going to have another look at getting a Desso pitch. Hope it goes better than everything else he's looked into that hasn't happened. I'm careful not to scroll down to the comments section because I'd lose my rag if I read them. -
News From Other Leagues
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I see that PNE have landed a home tie v Liverpool in the next round of the Cup. They vanquished Morecambe after we got knocked out by them and then got past Cheltenham at home. Goes to show what we could have had. Then we moan about no money. -
Safe Standing - Your Thoughts
JHRover replied to simongarnerisgod's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Cardiff have already announced they will be installing rail seating on the back 5 rows of their stand behind the goal to provide the option for anyone who want to use it. Sensible. Proactive. Rovers will 'look into it', make it look like a far bigger job than it really is, mumble about the cost and do nothing. -
Waggott's interview with media
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
I thought the comment about the swimming pool was interesting. Presumably that is one overhead he has his eyes on cutting off as we can be confident such a luxury won't be included in any plans. It certainly couldn't have been fit on the bottom academy site. I think we are still supposed to believe that Waggott's presence at the club is entirely unrelated to Mowbray's (yeah right) and that it is also a coincidence that for the second time and second club in succession these charlatans are involved in a training ground 'project' that seems to be based on selling valuable land for housing and finding a cheaper, smaller site elsewhere (if ever). I dont believe in coincidences like that. On the subject of Coventry I keep saying how since the moment the three stooges were all gone they have been on a rapid upwards trajectory. Amazing that. Almost like they were being held back by incompetence. -
Waggott's interview with media
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
He cannot be trusted. His words might sound impressive (or at least they do to those still a bit wet behind the ears) but again they simply don't stack up. The latest 'scheme' - to try and identify a site in BWD - is absolute nonense and carries zero benefit to Blackburn or Blackburn Rovers. Infact quite the opposite - why would any professional football want to spend their week training near Blackburn over the surroundings of Brockhall. I'm not too concerned about this as Waggott failed to even get a new pitch sorted last year and struggles with the task of signing players or getting kits on sale so I can't see him masterminding a relocation and purchase/development of a new site in Blackburn. The Brockhall stunt was a quick money grab - push it through quickly and quietly, pile expensive houses on it and pocket the millions that come from it. Moving to a new site in BWD will require much more - identification of suitable sites, purchase, planning, construction - all whilst we continue to need existing facilities in the meantime. It won't happen and hopefully Maggott will be long gone by the time they even reach first base. -
No they don't put in £20 million each season. The figure in the last year was higher due to the pandemic. That is sustainable, if they are able and willing to do it. As long as they are then it is no different to what the people at City do every year. It is only an issue if they can't or don't want to do it any more or do it using borrowing. We won't have a squad come next summer. You don't win points for having a young squad built on loans because they will be out of here with us having nothing to show for it.
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Waggott's interview with media
JHRover replied to chaddyrovers's topic in Blackburn Rovers Fans Messageboard
Holy hell. Just as I was starting to calm down about the woes of the summer and then this comes along. Call me a cynic but I reckon he's been waiting until we had a few good results or were in a decent position before agreeing to do this interview. Every time I listen to this bloke the less I believe him and the less I trust him. Surely I cannot be alone in thinking the sums don't add up in relation to the out of contract players? In particular the likes of Lenihan, Brereton and Nyambe? I mean even if we just imagine what they would cost in the market to replace, and that's before the millions in value and transfer fees we will miss out on and they leave for nothing. Does Waggott ever get challenged on this or is he just left free to bleat on about our wage structure and not breaking it? I also find it quite insulting that our £300,000 a year CEO comes along telling us we cannot afford to do x, y, z when he is raking in such a massive salary to fail to get things done. Then there's the usual excuses. Normally the CEO would take responsibility for poor performance or failure yet this bloke just has his excuses down to a fine art and is allowed to churn them out. Collapsing attendances - not his fault Poor commercial performance - not his fault Failing to get transfers over the line - not his fault I see there is mention of the 1875 club making a comeback. Apparently this will enable discounts on tickets, but as far as I can recall when it was last in operation there was minimal benefit to regular supporters and no discounts. It was £10 a year and ensured priority on away tickets and exemption from the Waggott tax, but not discounts. I think this is just another money grabbing exercise. Fans won't even get a full season out of it because it is being introduced late. I think the most interesting line from his interview was this: "and get to a balanced position of having an affordable and competitive squad, funded by the revenue of the support base and other commercial sponsors.” No mention of the owners providing capital to strengthen the squad. Pipe dreams of us assembling a competitive Championship club on our revenues. I wonder if this is Waggott's selling point to the owners - leave it to me and I'll cut costs back to the point where you don't need to put cash in - or if it is the case the owners have told him there's no more money and he's let the cat out of the bag.- 239 replies
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