JHRover

I think he did try, in his own pitiful way, but then quickly learned his attempts had achieved nothing. Partly because the schemes he came up with were so lame and also because he completely misjudged the way of things around here. The frankly embarrassing competition and jackpot prize if we sold 10,000 tickets - never going to achieve increased sales. The chance to win Dack's shirt by buying a season ticket - again futile. I'm not certain if these weird schemes were because Waggott is so clueless or because he just doesn't have the power to come up with something more wide ranging and comprehensive in scope and incentive. Anyhow, I think he has given up on that over the last couple of years and just decided for flat out get what he can from those whose loyalty can be exploited. Everyone has a breaking point though.

Can't argue with much of what they say. £36 is appalling and we are an embarrassment.

To be honest I'd never heard of any of those players until someone decided to 'link' Yates with a move here. As others have said I very much doubt we will be offering the money needed to tempt Blackpool to sell especially now they are a better run club than we are. Why do we need to bring through more academy players? Not much point IMO if we are just allowing their contracts to run down.

Waggott got the job promising to drastically reduce reliance on Venkys. Increase revenues and cut costs. Otherwise why else would they have agreed to him coming in? He's not very good though, and to increase revenues at a Championship football club it is a tough business no matter where you are, especialy at a club like Rovers in a region such as this with a dysfunctional setup. The season ticket disgrace and Brockhall stunt both have his tentacles all over them. Increasingly extreme and desperate steps to achieve targets. He'll do whatever he can to achieve that with scant regard for the medium to long term implications. This is his first and last big job in football, he wouldn't have got the CEO job at any other Championship club hence why he was floating around as a consultant at Southend and Gillingham before turning up here. Name of the game is to keep this one going until he's ready to retire and then the rotting carcass he leaves behind will be someone else's problem to deal with.

Sounds good. But do you really, seriously, think that we would be able to use proceeds from a sale to sign a decent replacement AND have change left? Read between the lines here. They're setting us up for sales and cutbacks. We've offloaded tens of thousands from the wages already, and the sum total of our business this summer has been contract extensions for Wharton and JRC who will have both been on small wages. Even if they were to sell Nyambe, get reasonable cash for him AND agree to Mowbray spending the money - do you seriously have faith in this lot to go and find a competent replacement? No - we all know what happens here. Nyambe goes for a couple of million, the money disappears into 'balancing the books' or we wait for the right player to come along and then we go and loan a highly rated 19 year old from City or Liverpool for the season.

Where does it say it should be £439? I thought it had been £459 since last season

IF I back down and and buy a season ticket it will be for the social side and seeing friends and filling up Saturday afternoons. The biggest thing I'm struggling with at the moment is the vile, shameless and grossly inadequate setup down there. As I've alluded to before, I can and have put up with some shocking standards on the pitch but having the p1ss taken out of me by the likes of Waggott takes some overcoming. Not sure I can stomach it and the thought of him and his mate rubbing their hands ahead of another year of it.

Well that's certainly what Venkys and their cohorts would like us to believe. Of course the alternative is that they are just in cutback mode and FFP provides an all too convenient cover story to do it quickly and substantially without criticism directed towards those at Ewood. Also provides Mowbray with his excuse for the next 12 months.

Plus one of the four higher, Preston, are offering cash back to anyone who had a ST in 2019/20 or 2020/21. This ranges from £30 to £70 so anyone renewing from pre Covid will have the opportunity of a cheaper ticket than at Ewood.

Bless him or anyone else who thinks we are going to be concluding ANY incoming transfers in the near future. Free or not we could have Cristiano Ronaldo asking to join for £10k a week and I don't think they'd get it done.

Leeds confirmed. Usually we would play 6 friendlies so I would expect a couple more. Wonder if Waggott will do a reverse Bradford and only open Ewood to away fans?

£240 for a season ticket at QPR. £299 for a season ticket at Reading. £235 for a season ticket at Barnsley. £399 for a season ticket at Blackburn. Go figure. Oh and the price off for renewals isn't a 'discount' despite what they would have us believe. It is simply honouring their obligations on refunds for not allowing fans in last season.

Count me out. I might have wavered on my anti Waggott and Mowbray position if the club had made an effort and tried to encourage people back by reducing prices (as nearly every other club has done) But instead, after waiting weeks for news, we get more of the same. They've made their bed. Time to lie in it. 5000 sales would surprise me.

Nobody on here has any evidence of anything. Unless you believe word for word what the club comes out with. That isn't evidence its just taking their word for it. They've a history of lying.

The point is to supply players when they are ready or good enough. As happened with Travis, Nyambe, Lenihan etc. If they are good enough they will force their way into the squad. Even when the manager isn't keen, he will end up with no choice. We've had more use from our academy than other clubs at this level and ought to have some real assets on our hands here. Nyambe should be RB for years to come. Trav should be captain in future. Lenihan will be captain now. Shame the club is allowing their contracts to run down but that's another story. My point is that our academy has and is doing the business. I see no reason to force things further by filling the first team squad with academy lads to make some sort of point about using the academy when it is being used already. Too much using it could easily be counter productive and jeopardise Championship status with kids and inexperience learning on the job. It needs to be more gradual - one or two a year coming through not offloading a dozen and replacing them all with the kids.

Its the same tale as with Corry Evans for me. If the club is moving them on with a view to recruiting better and progressing then fine. I support that 100%. Neither are great and neither are going to get better at this stage. Both have served the club well across their time here. Both however I presume are leaders and valuable experience in the changing room. I think it is a dangerous game to offload so much of that in one window leaving behind inexperience in this cut throat division. The reason for my concern is that I believe the manager would have kept both if possible. I think his comments on Evans and the 'attempts' to offer Bennett new terms show that. I've been clear that Mowbray is done and needs removing from the club but if he isn't, then the worst we can do is pull up and not even renew deals. This is of course worrying, because if we can't even get these sort of deals done, which the manager wants, what deals are we going to be able to do?

I prefer to face up to the uncomfortable and alarming reality rather than just making excuses all the time. Either he's been made an offer, which is so derisory that a one year deal at League One Shrewsbury is seen as a better bet, or probably more likely we haven't even got to the stage of putting a deal on the table, despite the club saying they were discussing it with him. I suppose you'd be happy for Adam Armstrong to join Hartlepool because that would be nearer to home and his family/friends?

If you believe that you'll believe anything.

A good move for all concerned, assuming we actually replace him which i doubt we will. I think the biggest question here is whether we offered him another years contract, if so why, and why has he rejected it to take a 1 year deal at Shrewsbury? The answers to these questions are important and relevant to the state we will be in heading into next season. Doesn't look good to me that we've made him and offer and he's declined it.

https://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/2021/june/season-tickets-reach-8500-mark/ Bolton have sold 8500 ahead of their League One season and have only now put them on open sale. Thank heavens for Venkys though otherwise we'd 'do a Bolton'.

It probably is that simple. The owners need to provide evidence of funding to get the accounts signed off. I dont think they're communicating any more which is why there's radio silence and no season tickets. So not difficult to believe this is where the issue lies and everything else spins from that. If this is the issue then Waggott should tell us the truth and resign afterwards. But instead he'll carry on as a patsy and take the coin whilst the rudderless ship drifts.

Can anyone explain this one. Last December some clubs (i think Millwall, Brentford, Reading, Norwich Bristol City and others) were allowed fans in to grounds for a few games. Presumably they made money from those fixtures, albeit limited capacity, whereas we were not allowed to open. So IF it is true we are in FFP trouble and are scrimping and scraping for money i take it we will be looking into the possibility of a legal challenge to any sanctions having been subjected to government imposed restrictions? Likewise Middlesbrough who have presumably made a fortune from hosting 2x England games (thanks to ex Boro boy Southgate). Of course we won't. As I said earlier I am increasingly of the view the people at Rovers want an embargo or restrictions to justify player sales and drastic cost cutting. Venkys are imposing it but FFP provides the perfect front. If there were genuine difficulties we'd be doing something to deal with it - like selling tickets.

Yeah but is there a pandemic and government restrictions in Stockport?

West Brom just announced £329 season tickets. Just us and Derby to go now. Did I imagine the part about us being short on money?

I have read the current rules thanks. I'm on about July 24th, after the date when ALL restrictions are to end. Unless we are being led on a merry dance and rules will continue to restrict people beyond 19th July.