He's been afforded time and opportunities that most other managers could only dream of. He's been in position now longer than all but 2 rival managers and well above the average tenure for a manager at this level. He's had a +£15 million net transfer budget in two summers, apparently been in control of recruitment, not lost anyone he didn't want to sell, had complete autonomy over the football operation and has even been able to bring in his own Chief Executive. The only problem that he might have had is working in a vacuum under Venkys and being given a set of criteria when spending their money e.g. the mysterious appearance of £7 million for Brereton on transfer deadline day and likely strings attached to that money before they allowed it to be spent. There's no indication of any progress of any nature. We're still leaking goals in pitiful fashion, still far too easy to score against, too easy to beat, still boring to watch, still chopping and changing teams and formations on a regular basis. I long since realised that this manager is either unwilling or unable to change his ways, and delve back into his previous at other clubs it was all very similar. He'll likely keep us up. That isn't an achievement for this club but given the people running it and what happened before Mowbray it could be worse. So that's where we are at. If you are satisfied to tread water in this division and be told we're 'trying' to 'compete' with 'huge clubs' like Middlesbrough whilst Preston challenge for promotion and Burnley perform in the top division then great, if you are scared stiff at what the imbeciles upstairs will come up with next then Tony can carry on and I'm sure we will achieve a bare minimum each year for the next couple of seasons (Until the inevitable sales begin). We aren't going to get promoted or even come close to it under a manager that doesn't know his best team or system, has no plan B, has shown since day 1 he can't set a team up to defend and be hard to score against and thinks he is cleverer than he is with his fancy formations and systems. In the end he's going nowhere. Coyle got 8 months of relegation form, protesting fans and plummeting gates before he was sacked.

Unfortunately for Mowbray he hasn't got the ready made excuse of playing a side with loads of money, big squad of proven players or 30,000 fans on. QPR have nothing we don't but dismantled us with ease. Difference is a manager who knows what he is doing. If we can be swept away by a side like QPR and be beaten at home with ease by Charlton and Luton then relegation has to be a concern. I said at the start of the season that I'd shake hands on 21st. That doesn't mean I think the manager is doing well if we do better than that, but that his management and recruitment has resulted in that. Bigger concern is that Mowbray's sides tend to collapse in the 2nd half of seasons.

There are however huge clubs like Stoke and Middlesbrough who we have to look forward to trying to compete against. If the attitude above is reflected by the manager towards the players we will never get anywhere. It's the perfect excuse for mediocrity.

Doubt Jack Walker would have left Mowbray to set his own target of 'aiming for a play off push'

Who on earth aims for a 'play off push'? What constitutes success under that 'target'? Talk about setting the bar low on targets and expectations. All to be expected here though. Serious managers target promotion and do everything they can to get it asap.

At that point he was protected by a good start to the season and promotion the season before. This time around he won't. I sense people are starting to realise that his talk is just that and are getting disillusioned with his management.

I think this could be the cliff edge for Mowbray with a lot of fans. Preston have a good home record, score goals, will be well up for this one. Another inept, clueless, half arsed muddled effort from Mowbray and his boys will likely see another thrashing like last season. With a large away following there I can see the fans turning.

Having no money but a plan and people who know what they are doing is better than having money but being run by people who haven't got a clue.

Contracted to Ireland until next summer's Euros are finished so would have to job share until then, can't see Ireland agreeing to share him.

I don't think enough of him to get shut of Mowbray to bring him in. I don't think he's THAT good. Whereas a McCarthy, Hughton or Bruce if available and willing to come I would seriously look at having here over Mowbray. But if Mowbray were to leave for whatever reason then yes, I think Rowett would tick a lot of our boxes when searching for a new manager. I'd probably put Rowett in a similar bracket to Warburton and Monk. Decent records in this league albeit not the promotion nack of a Hughton or Bruce who seem to be able to transform clubs into contenders overnight.

Just over 900 sold for tomorrow so once again looking like 1000 or so at a London away game. Good effort. Compare to what the London clubs bring to Ewood and we do get some excellent support in London and surrounding areas

I think Rowett is a decent manager albeit one who will deliver functional and defensive football. Would be a good appointment for a side like Millwall. Also shown he can do it on a limited budget at Birmingham. His record at Stoke not looking so bad in hindsight.

You might not win anything in the first 10 games but you can certainly lose things. Take Stoke, one of my and many other peoples favourites for a top 6 position at the start of the season, 8 defeats in 10 games has already ruled out promotion and will likely see them in a season long relegation battle. If they'd been mediocre in the first 10 games rather than abysmal and were sat on 10-15 points they'd have a good chance of kicking on for a play off spot.

Very surprised at that Millwall development. Not exactly adrift (only 3 points behind us in a congested bottom half). Club legend. One of the last I'd have expected to be on his way after only 10 games. I did wonder if Stoke had put the feelers out today and he's decided to jump ship. Some eyebrow raising names among the early favourites including Hughton, Karanka and McCarthy. Can't see Millwall being able to lure any of those there. More likely they'll go for a former player.

Well I suppose they might be impressed by his talk of them being a 'huge club'. Suspect he's the only professional in football to ever describe Stoke in such terms.

What is long term, out of interest? Another year, two years, five years? Surely it should depend on achievements rather than some principled point about sticking with the incumbent rather than making a change? Would you accept 5 bottom half finishes like last season so we can celebrate backing Mowbray and him being here 'long term'? Mowbray has been here more than 2.5 years now, which is above average tenure in the Championship and longer than all the current managers with the exceptions of Harris at Millwall, Johnson at Bristol and Warnock at Cardiff. Those other 3 have arguably done as well if not better than Mowbray in their time at those clubs. Harris got Millwall up and kept them up on a small budget, Warnock worked miracles at Cardiff and Johnson has built Bristol into a side I expect to make the playoffs. For right or for wrong managers don't get long term unless they consistently overachieve e.g. Dyche or Howe. In the Championship they get a couple of shots at it then the clubs tend to look elsewhere in their pursuit of success.

Preston away should always be a sell out. Given it is nearer to home than Ewood for a large chunk of Rovers fans, reasonable(ish) ticket prices and proper kick off time it will be a very sad sight if we don't sell out. Especially when they will probably bring more to Ewood for the return leg when Waggott rolls out the red carpet treatment to get as many to buy as possible.

Ipswich in a similar boat to us really. Limited Championship squad and budget. Botched appointments (Hurst/Coyle) replacing or effectively replacing decent and stable predecessors (McCarthy/Bowyer). Poor transfer business. Assets sold. Popular replacements come in too late to achieve survival (Lambert/Mowbray) but stick around to lead a promotion push in League One where the players are too good for the division.

It is an issue that can be improved if not fixed. Crowds and atmospheres at Ewood are awful, but it doesn't help when on the nice days with a couple of thousand extra on we put in crap displays and get beat. It doesn't help when the club is advertising the ability to watch the game at home online for £10 rather than pay £20+ to come to Ewood in the cold. Decreasing numbers are not natural, its alarming and a failing of management especially when virtually everyone else has seen an increase in crowds.

Something seriously wrong at Stoke. Hughes, Lambert and Rowett all decent managers but couldn't stop the decline and were sacked, Jones probably the same although perhaps the job is too big for him. Strange because for a few years they were a model club and unlike us weren't sold out to unfit people- they've still got Coates at the helm who has been there years.

Every week that goes by the chances of them attracting a Hughton or Moyes diminishes. Would Moyes really gamble his status on a relegation dogfight with Stoke? Surely he will have options abroad with his Premier League background. Hughton can sit tight and wait for the right job to come along. He would keep Stoke up and is the best of the available managers for a struggling Championship side. If they can't get either of those two then there aren't many options left. Pulis would keep them up but probably annoy lots of their fans. Adkins maybe. Pearson seems to be the forgotten man these days.

If there's one constant under Mowbray's management it is slow, boring, dull and low scoring first 45-60 minutes at home before the handbrake gets taken off in the last 20 minutes. Last night no different. Turgid stuff for the first hour or so and then some decent play and pressure in the last 15 minutes but ultimately not enough to get the win. 1 point from 6 at home this week is very disappointing and for me further evidence that at best we are going to be a mid table side. After the Luton display a win was needed. I still don't think Mowbray has a preferred XI or system to use. On to QPR- another team we should be finishing above if the play offs are a serious aim but another one that no doubt lots will be happy with a draw from.

No. I'll never take a draw at home before the game. Forest aren't 'the top team' either. Better than average but we will need to finish above them if we want the play-offs.

I believe that Mowbray's strategy for the Luton game amounted to trying to blow them away, thinking that this team could get ahead early doors and that they would crumble as a weak newly promoted side. When our early pressure failed to deliver a goal and then they went down the other end and scored with their first attempt the manager and players ran out of ideas. For me a very naive and limited approach to take. I don't feel we are ever really in control of games or have a clear plan as to what we are doing. Far from being impressed by Mowbray's talk about rotating players this actually fills me with dread as I don't think he has a first choice XI or system that works best that he will stick to. You compare to a Dyche or Wilder who have a set way of playing and recruit accordingly I think Mowbray is way off. Sometimes it will work but sometimes it is very frustrating and sees us as a very inefficient side. Loads of possession and very little to show for it.

The referee was half the story. He failed in his duties to prevent time wasting. His decision to issue a yellow card in the 94th minute for time wasting was a disgrace. They took more time on many, many earlier throws and goal kicks yet all he did was wave his arm. Then when protected by a lack of time remaining and to try and shield himself from criticism he issues a yellow for timewasting. Coward. But the other side to the story is our ineffectiveness in the final 3rd. We could have played all night and we probably wouldn't have scored. Same with Charlton earlier this season. Possession on the halfway line is meaningless.